Steam is so shit now - In fact Valve in general is shit

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t's actually becoming harder and harder to find actual positive discussion about video games on this board. There's a Sony hate thread, Microsoft hate thread, Valve hate thread (this one), it's all just one broken record of people screeching that everything is shit, yet they can't seem to stop caring about video games despite how loudly they screech how shit they are.
well it shouldn't be surprising that you'll see a lot of shit in the designated shitting threads. in other places there's still good discussion here which you'll hardly find on reddit or reddit 2.0 aka /v/.

there's also not a lot of positives to say, and there's a reason this thread is only 4 pages compares to the sony thread for example...
 
to the newest and freshest.
To a more telemetry bloated, anti-customization OS that just happens to be 'better' to use for modern programs as consequence to the previous versions being abandoned by developers. It's still worse.

It's actually becoming harder and harder to find actual positive discussion about video games on this board. There's a Sony hate thread, Microsoft hate thread, Valve hate thread (this one), it's all just one broken record of people screeching that everything is shit, yet they can't seem to stop caring about video games despite how loudly they screech how shit they are.
It's not just about vidya, it's about everything generally becoming worse, ending up infecting the breads and circuses. People lash out because they legitimately can't end up avoiding this shit totally even in what's supposed to be 'escapism'. Even still, positive discussion does still exist, negativity bias works both ways, it can make you blind to that.

But anyway, I've reminded myself that I've already made plenty of posts like that, and every single time everyone just screeched at me
Because saying the same shit against the thread topic over and over doesn't earn you any favors, you're in a thread called 'steam is so shit now'. If you've been carrying this same thing on in the other similar vidya threads there's no wonder you get 'screeched' at, it's annoying. There are several different threads that range from more neutral to more positive discussion. There's even a recently enough active one about the deck, something I listed as something actually good Valve has made recently, and I know you've posted there so you do in fact know it exists. If you want to try and push discussion in the direction you want, make threads for that. You're a capable poster, I'm not trying to shit on you, I know that negative discussion can be overbearing in it's numerousity, all the same people need to vent their frustrations just as much as they should be sharing more positive thinking, I just don't see how defending the floundering practices of a declining industry really fits that window.
 
Counterargument: every single post "criticizing" Valve I've seen in this thread, or in the thread about Valve dropping support for Win7, lashed out directly at Valve, as if they did it with premeditation just to spite people who refuse to change their OS to the newest and freshest.
Counterargument: There is no good reason why you should be forced to upgrade to the "freshest" operating system to install a video game from 2007. Nigger, Valve doesn't even update their games anymore (Dota 2 and CSGO are not games). What's the point of forcing upgrades to windows 10 at the end of its life cycle when microshaft itself expects people to gobble up the windows 11 slop now? Literally what is the reason? Steam has been running on win7 for years at this point, and Valve has literally infinite money from their unbreakable monopoly that they have, by some miracle, managed to not colossally abuse by completely fucking over their customers rights during this long reign. They can afford to support win7.

You are letting your distaste for negative criticism get in the way of logic and reason. Sure, it's bad for customers that technically Valve only leases licenses to download games through their service, but this is only really a problem for greedy kike bastards operating low trust companies. Valve has spent years exercising benign neglect, earning much good will and trust from their customers during this time. They dipped their toes into the greedy kike bastard pond with the paid mods fiasco, and the steam community rightly lashed back at them, causing the issue to be dropped as it was determined to be a greater hassle than it was worth. Forcing updates to windows 10 is clearly not a greater hassle. Now why is that?
 
Counterargument: There is no good reason why you should be forced to upgrade to the "freshest" operating system to install a video game from 2007.

The game is old, the installer/DRM manager/run environment is not. This is no different than how a web browser that can correctly display a website from 2002 cannot be expected to run on Windows XP.

The installer is a live, continuously updated, rolling-release program, and you therefore cannot expect it to forever be backward compatible with operating systems and hardware that are well past their end of support. This is the downside of Steam that all us Luddites warned about back when the whole PC gaming world was praising St Gaben the Fat for saving gaming or whatever. Any time you buy a game on Steam, you are accepting that some day, you will not be able to easily install it on an old computer.

Nigger, Valve doesn't even update their games anymore (Dota 2 and CSGO are not games). What's the point of forcing upgrades to windows 10 at the end of its life cycle when microshaft itself expects people to gobble up the windows 11 slop now? Literally what is the reason? Steam has been running on win7 for years at this point, and Valve has literally infinite money from their unbreakable monopoly that they have, by some miracle, managed to not colossally abuse by completely fucking over their customers rights during this long reign. They can afford to support win7.

It's not an issue of what can they afford to do. The issue is that supporting old systems means not using any technologies the old system doesn't support. It's everything from new driver features to new compilers to new hardware features to security patches.
 
yeah mate maybe I would agree in 10 years, until then they can put a "you use this program with windows 7 at your own risk and we are not liable for anything that happens as a result" for based luddites who don't suck microjeet dick all day while throwing up their hands and proclaiming there was nothing they could do
 
yeah mate maybe I would agree in 10 years, until then they can put a "you use this program with windows 7 at your own risk and we are not liable for anything that happens as a result" for based luddites who don't suck microjeet dick all day while throwing up their hands and proclaiming there was nothing they could do
You can always use Linux. Valve took major effort to make gaming on Linux as viable as possible, and in some cases it's easier and better than on Windows.

But I know how it will go, Linux is shit, troon infested OS, nothing works on it etc. There are a multitude of solutions to the "Steam not working on Win7" debacle but every time it winds back to complaining, because people don't want to change anything about their habits and want to stay on an OS that originally released in 2009, using every single excuse to bitch and moan about every other alternative.

I really don't understand people who insist on hating on Valve. They go out of their way to make it so that you can play all your favorite vidya hassle-free on Linux, which is free, and it's also not Windows since people seem to have a deep disdain for anything made by a corporation that made the proprietary OS they use to spew this verbal diarrhea all over the web, and they still have an issue with it.

So what is it that you want? Be honest. You want a way to play your old ass games from Steam? Or just another sacrificial goat to lash out on? Because the more I read this shit the more I believe that it's the latter.
 
until then they can put a "you use this program with windows 7 at your own risk and we are not liable for anything that happens as a result" for based luddites who don't suck microjeet dick all day while throwing up their hands and proclaiming there was nothing they could do
So not sucking Microsoft dick by using their operating system still, while ignoring Valve has done the most out of any video game company to actually make a non-Microsoft OS viable for gaming, even those not using Steam, through Mesa contributions, RADV, etc. The irony is palpable.
 
But I know how it will go, Linux is shit, troon infested OS, nothing works on it etc. There are a multitude of solutions to the "Steam not working on Win7" debacle but every time it winds back to complaining, because people don't want to change anything about their habits and want to stay on an OS that originally released in 2009, using every single excuse to bitch and moan about every other alternative.
Jewish microsoft telemetry is my only response to this post. Enjoy your cancer.
 
Jewish microsoft telemetry is my only response to this post. Enjoy your cancer.
Thanks for proving my point. Completely ignored the fact that gaming on Linux is a viable thing, saw the word "Microsoft" and had to just say something to stay mad whilst mentioning Jews for no good reason, just to pump up the hate factor.

I'd recommend going to therapy if you see Jews in everything and have to bring it up for no good reason in discussions about fucking video games.
So not sucking Microsoft dick by using their operating system still, while ignoring Valve has done the most out of any video game company to actually make a non-Microsoft OS viable for gaming, even those not using Steam, through Mesa contributions, RADV, etc. The irony is palpable.
You see how it is. They don't want reason, they don't want solutions. They just want to be mad whilst being illogical in the process. All that matters is to stay mad at everything all the time.
 
Thanks for proving my point. Completely ignored the fact that gaming on Linux is a viable thing, saw the word "Microsoft" and had to just say something to stay mad whilst mentioning Jews for no good reason, just to pump up the hate factor.

I'd recommend going to therapy if you see Jews in everything and have to bring it up for no good reason in discussions about fucking video games.
sure buddy, that's why you recommend "normal" people simply use windows and eat the bugs and live in the pod without complaining. lololo
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sure buddy, that's why you recommend "normal" people simply use windows and eat the bugs and live in the pod without complaining. lololo
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Oh wow pulling up screencaps of the fucking MATI chat as a counterargument in a discussion about Valve. I would never expect this level of retarded grasping at straws on this site. :story:

You know you could've found the exact same ammo by searching the forum instead of screencapping the MATI Rumble chat, and it would've made you look less gay than you've just made yourself look like?
 
Oh wow pulling up screencaps of the fucking MATI chat as a counterargument in a discussion about Valve. I would never expect this level of retarded grasping at straws on this site. :story:

You know you could've found the exact same ammo by searching the forum instead of screencapping the MATI Rumble chat, and it would've made you look less gay than you've just made yourself look like?
man why can't you just be normal and install windows man?
 
man why can't you just be normal and install windows man?
And why can't you just be normal and not dig through other sites to find ammo to discredit someone in a meaningless discussion?
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Also I like how you've cut out the part where the guy who called me a nigger cattle agreed with my statement anyway. So not only did you had to look at other sites for ammo, you've also did the oldest trick in the book by trimming the context just enough to be more suited against your opponent.

You are truly the biggest faggot that I have ever came across on this site, and it's a real accomplishment, believe me.

I'll leave it at that though because you're derailing the entire thread with your faggotry. This is a thread about hating Valve and not about throwing shit at other users.
 
i have a good quote from slav that aptly explains the linux situation: "They autistically slapped a GUI on an OS that's CLI only by design and it works like shit and they are shocked that people hate it"
 
yeah mate maybe I would agree in 10 years, until then they can put a "you use this program with windows 7 at your own risk and we are not liable for anything that happens as a result"

It's not a matter of "run at your own risk," it's, "it literally will not run." If the system functions your software needs to call don't exist, it just doesn't work.

for based luddites who don't suck microjeet dick all day while throwing up their hands and proclaiming there was nothing they could do

Wait, who do you think made Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, XP, and 7?

You see how it is. They don't want reason, they don't want solutions. They just want to be mad whilst being illogical in the process. All that matters is to stay mad at everything all the time.

What he wants is to not update his operating system, ever. Since Steam Linux requires the latest Ubuntu LTS, that's hardly a solution. His best bet is to stick to DOS games obtained from abandonware sites.
 
Since Steam Linux requires the latest Ubuntu LTS
It doesn't, SteamOS is based on Debian and the second most popular OS on steam is Arch. I've used it on Manjaro without any problems from what I remember. Even so there's plenty of distros based on Ubuntu so you don't have to use Ubuntu directly, I'm on Mint and it works fine.
Yes, it looks great now, but is still buggy and slow as shit.
It is, the store will blackscreen when I tab out and game settings will sometimes break entirely even through restarts, not to mention it's laggy as fuck. It worked so much better before.
 
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