Steam is so shit now - In fact Valve in general is shit

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Free to play ($24b)
Games-as-a-service ($18b)
Pay-to-play (aka "traditional games") ($7.3b)

The amount of revenue from Free to Play games blows my mind. Maybe since I don't play online I can't wrap my ahead around the drive to spend money on shit in those games, but damn.
 
And the entire reason they've even decided on merging Portal and Half-Life universes in Episode 2 was because... they wanted to do it for the sake of marketing Orange Box.
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This useless bundle that had no point existing on PC because of Steam being a thing, and which became obsolete on consoles as soon as the next console gen came around because Valve never bothered to keep the console versions of their games up to date, is why Episode Three never happened.
The point of The Orange Box on PC was to draw newcomers into the Steam platform, as it came out in late '07, when Steam was really starting to gain some stea-.... take off, as a platform that hosted more than just Valve's games. They sold it at retail and some copies even came in a literal orange box. You didn't just get Half-Life 2: Episode 2 for free, you also got the breakout hit Portal, and the long-awaited Team Fortress 2. Alongside HL2 and Episode 1, because you probably didn't already have them. It was a hell of a package for $50. Public perception of Steam before that wasn't great at all, as it had a very troubled launch. I remember HL2 being a popular thing to pirate for a while explicitly because of Steam.

The console versions weren't updated because of reasons outside of Valve's hands. The PS3 version was licensed out to Electronic Arts, who didn't do a great job, and didn't support it afterwards. The Xbox 360 version only ever got a single title update, due to some absolutely bugfuck retarded rules laid down by Microsoft at the time. IIRC, and I can't even believe this could be true, but I think every released 360 game was allowed one free update, and then subsequent updates incurred a $10,000 charge, so, you just couldn't do lots of small updates over time for 360 games. There also might have been just general trouble trying to get the new weapons in TF2 to work on 360, but I really can't remember. Regardless, that's why console Orange Box didn't get anything new added.

Ironically, though, Orange Box 360 is one of the backwards compatible games on Xbox One, still playable in its launch state. Go figure.

I feel like for the next big game changer thing to hype everyone up Valve should try and make a "minimal authorization client". Basically if you just want to run a game on Steam that you have installed with a shortcut and you don't need all the community features as you play, when you launch a game from the said shortcut and Steam is closed, what will instead load is a more compact Steam client that does the bare minimum needed to authorize with Steam servers and launch the game. Perhaps even make it customizable if you want to run it with Steam Overlay or not. This would be a very good callout to the issue of excessive game launchers, and I'm sure they'd love this kind of publicity.
That would be an enthusiast feature that very few people would use, and if you really want it, I think the Goldberg Steam Emulator can do that.
 
That would be an enthusiast feature that very few people would use, and if you really want it, I think the Goldberg Steam Emulator can do that.
Nah, they would totally make it viable for normies. Even by making a simple check. If you're running a Steam game from a desktop shortcut, if Steam is already opened, load it via the full client. If Steam is not opened, use the minimal client.

I see that a lot of normies use desktop shortcuts for Steam games anyway so it would see some use. Plus, people who use GOG Galaxy for managing all their games would also benefit from it. I think it has enough potential to be viable and set a precedence for other companies.
 
I see that a lot of normies use desktop shortcuts for Steam games anyway so it would see some use. Plus, people who use GOG Galaxy for managing all their games would also benefit from it. I think it has enough potential to be viable and set a precedence for other companies.
Well, I don't. I like to keep Steam open and use it because it makes my PC feel like a game console.

I would still be on the console side if modern consoles weren't such fucking shit
 
If you want to see how bad valve's decisions can get check out their new unified update between the platforms. I think to get it on PC you have to have the setting checked to receive steam betas but it'll be out for everyone soon enough. PC really isn't the worst part of it though. They screwed up bad on the app. Chat's been gutted from it and is in some separate application.
 
IIRC, and I can't even believe this could be true, but I think every released 360 game was allowed one free update, and then subsequent updates incurred a $10,000 charge, so, you just couldn't do lots of small updates over time for 360 games. There also might have been just general trouble trying to get the new weapons in TF2 to work on 360, but I really can't remember. Regardless, that's why console Orange Box didn't get anything new added.
it was the same excuse phil fish gave when asked about updates for fez back then, so there's probably some truth to it.
similar to retarded parity clauses between xbox 360 and ps3 (can't remember if it was launch dates or graphical features).

I've never really been a fan of Steam, especially since practically all PC games are now tethered to Steam or a similar hub and many don't come with a method to install independently or play offline.
depends on the game.
but it's not really steam's fault, they were just among the first, and did a better job than anyone else. most people don't even remember how dire the PC scene was in the 00's, there was never a way publishers would be ok with something like gog, or just buying some install files that aren't tied to some account somewhere.
 
If you want to see how bad valve's decisions can get check out their new unified update between the platforms. I think to get it on PC you have to have the setting checked to receive steam betas but it'll be out for everyone soon enough. PC really isn't the worst part of it though. They screwed up bad on the app. Chat's been gutted from it and is in some separate application.
I'm fine with the iOS update. The Steam app sucked ass before. It was very clearly a half-assed WebView app that had been shoehorned into a native package. It looked and felt ancient and didn't integrate well with the OS. That said I don't use the Steam iOS app for much beyond the occasional chat or looking at what's on sale.
 
I'm fine with the iOS update. The Steam app sucked ass before. It was very clearly a half-assed WebView app that had been shoehorned into a native package.
Walk me through what was improved on IOS. Haven't touched an Iphone in years so my only experience was with the old steam app on Android that did it's job and then some. I can only see this update as an utter downgrade and it even screwed 2 factor up.
 
Walk me through what was improved on IOS. Haven't touched an Iphone in years so my only experience was with the old steam app on Android that did it's job and then some. I can only see this update as an utter downgrade and it even screwed 2 factor up.
Overall it actually makes an attempt to look and feel native and not like a shitty jQuery Mobile page from 2012. The buttons and controls look like native controls and not obviously HTML form controls. For all I know, maybe they still are, but they don't look or feel like it, which is what really matters from the end-user perspective.

One specific thing I noticed is that the wishlist sale notifications are much better. Previously, the sale notification was just a simple "A title on your wishlist is on sale!" Tapping on it wouldn't even bring you to the wishlist. It would just bring you to your library, from where you'd have to change the filter to the wishlist using an ugly unstyled HTML select menu. Now, the notification tells me that Autism Simulator 2023 is for sale, and tapping on the notification brings me to the wishlist directly. The previous experience was not a dealbreaker by any means, but it's a nice quality-of-life improvement.

I haven't noticed any issues with 2FA. It now has login with QR code now which is nice, not crucial by any means though. Steam Chat app seems OK through my admittedly very limited use. I'm sure I'd find things to hate about it if I used it a lot.
 
Linux has no games ... not even Nvidea drivers run on this
Use a distro that comes with them if you're that dense. Better yet, go AMD already. (... or just boot with nomodeset)

I'm fairly certain the majority of games on Steam run perfectly on Linux now. I'm a filthy casual though so I dunno.
He's probably the pleb who sucks EA's microdick and can't play his heckin' BattleFart 2042, because they didn't allow linux support in EAC. :story:
 
There is a word that will break access to most of the features of your Steam account if you use it for your profile name. That word is antidisestablishmentarianism. More details in this article and the following video by The Spiffing Brit:
Things seem to be getting blocked by Akamai, who does the hosting for Steam profiles.
 
Linux has no games, Stop pretending this shit runs anything on an acceptable level, not even Nvidea drivers run on this SO.
Linux has plenty of games, and I am using an nvidia card right now, it works fine and have had no driver issues. I play plenty of games, online as well, just takes a little more set up is all.

Linux has issues with more niche software, and it struggles to deal with high-end software (personally, the DAW and VSTi situation is kinda grim, but getter better slowly), but gaming is really solid and has been for a good few years now.

I really think if you hate windows for whatever reason, linux is something you should look into. I know it's intimidating, but if a retard like me can navigate it fine, you should be fine. Its just awkward at first because you are stuck in windows mode.
 
As if the incoming non Win 10 deplatform by next year isn't enough, this happens. I fucking hate this gay shit clown world.
you'd have to blame chromium, which dropped support. or blame microshit directly for forcing you to upgrade in the first place. sure using chromium is retarded in the first place, but all that wouldn't happen if not for MS' bullshit.

local currency changes is the fault of those currencies crashing,
 
you'd have to blame chromium, which dropped support. or blame microshit directly for forcing you to upgrade in the first place. sure using chromium is retarded in the first place, but all that wouldn't happen if not for MS' bullshit.

local currency changes is the fault of those currencies crashing,
Do not use reason here. This is the Games board, aka /v/ 2.0. Here, we hate on Valve just because we are so miserable we need to hate even on things that are the best in the current industry, because we only find enjoyment in misery, and we don't want to hear reasonable explanations. We just want to be mad.
 
Here, we hate on Valve just because we are so miserable we need to hate even on things that are the best in the current industry,
And used to be noticeably better, everything in the industry has degraded as things have gotten worse in many ways across the board. Nobody is mad for no reason. Steam is clearly shittier than before, becoming even more broken than it was pre-ui update, the steam forums used to be relatively unmoderated and are quickly becoming another nu-internet shithole, Valve can't even develop games at any sort of pace anymore and their recent 'big project' was effectively just giving CSGO a glitzy new coat of paint. Not everything they've done has been bad in recent years, hardware wise they've done some good shit but a steam deck or valve index every now and then doesn't offset their spiral in software. Especially with the price of some of said hardware (index).
 
And used to be noticeably better, everything in the industry has degraded as things have gotten worse in many ways across the board. Nobody is mad for no reason. Steam is clearly shittier than before, becoming even more broken than it was pre-ui update, the steam forums used to be relatively unmoderated and are quickly becoming another nu-internet shithole, Valve can't even develop games at any sort of pace anymore and their recent 'big project' was effectively just giving CSGO a glitzy new coat of paint. Not everything they've done has been bad in recent years, hardware wise they've done some good shit but a steam deck or valve index every now and then doesn't offset their spiral in software. Especially with the price of some of said hardware (index).
Counterargument: every single post "criticizing" Valve I've seen in this thread, or in the thread about Valve dropping support for Win7, lashed out directly at Valve, as if they did it with premeditation just to spite people who refuse to change their OS to the newest and freshest.

People were not blaming Valve for basing the only way to obtain games from Steam to Chromium or blaming Google for dropping support for Win7. And they weren't even getting mad at Valve for things they're actually doing wrong that are an issue, such as the fact that you don't own your games. Only for the shit that just so happened to pop up in the news cycle.

It's actually becoming harder and harder to find actual positive discussion about video games on this board. There's a Sony hate thread, Microsoft hate thread, Valve hate thread (this one), it's all just one broken record of people screeching that everything is shit, yet they can't seem to stop caring about video games despite how loudly they screech how shit they are.

But anyway, I've reminded myself that I've already made plenty of posts like that, and every single time everyone just screeched at me, but never told me that I'm wrong and why I'm wrong, and besides the screeching the only other thing they could've done to feel superior was to give me mean stickers. So I'll leave it at that, have fun being miserable.
 
The only thing I genuinely hate about Valve today is their treatment of TF2.

Why they continue to neglect it and not even do the bare minimum with it (getting rid of bots) is beyond me. Literally only one guy (Eric Smith) is working on the game right now, and sporadically at that. Much of the content that's added into the game these days is gimmicky garbage from the Workshop.

Smh, look how they massacred my boy.
 
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