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Which game do you play the most in Sonic Mega Collection?

  • Sonic 1

    Votes: 28 4.5%
  • Sonic 2

    Votes: 112 18.1%
  • Sonic 3 and Knuckles

    Votes: 245 39.5%
  • Sonic 3D Blast

    Votes: 23 3.7%
  • Sonic Spinball

    Votes: 24 3.9%
  • Dr. Robotnik's Meanbean Machine

    Votes: 89 14.4%
  • they're all good in my opinion

    Votes: 99 16.0%

  • Total voters
    620
I feel like the biggest problem with Crossworlds (price notwithstanding) compared to other kart racers is that there's way too many red/blue shell-esque items with only a few ways to counter them.

That, and a lot of the lap 3 tracks are pure unfiltered dogshit.
 
I went into Crossworlds expecting nothing, but it’s actually really freaking good. Not $70 good, but I’ll at least play more of the single player demo once it’s out. It’s shameless how much it’s copying Mario Kart 8 (E Stadium is just Mario Kart Stadium, Sweet Mountain is Sweet Sweet Canyon, Colorful Mall is Coconut Mall, all the mechanical similarities, etc), but someone has to make a new Mario Kart if World is gonna force new gimmicks that most people are already burnt out on.
 
I feel like the biggest problem with Crossworlds (price notwithstanding) compared to other kart racers is that there's way too many red/blue shell-esque items with only a few ways to counter them.

That, and a lot of the lap 3 tracks are pure unfiltered dogshit.
The strategy that made me win races was to get the "item change" gadget, hang in the back to get a catch up item, then play the game until lap 3. Hoarding great items is insanely powerful in this.

Can definitely see myself playing the game with A.I since you can jump right in and do a race while bored but yeah idk about that price tag.
 
A single-player demo is meant to come out "mid-September", so probably in two weeks' time.

12-player multiplayer with friends is also possible - guess how we found that out? Through someone directly asking the Sonic social media account's manager on Twitter, rather than the game's/brand's official accounts.

The Sonic social media accounts post-Webber is an exercise in both how not to run a social media account and how to be as inoffensive as possible.
 
so open network test is finished. some players decided to keep their games on so they could keep streaming them to twitch. they just can't play online.

i had alot of fun. some players got a title called Joker Festival Top 1000. for really putting in effort during the joker festival. good for them.

pre-ordering the game will give you sonic the werehog as a racer, while preordering the digital deluxe gives you rusty rose, nine, and dread from sonic prime as racers at launch and given the season pass plus you can play the game 3 days early before release. i pre-ordered the game's digital deluxe edition.

though i'm still wondering what's the last content pack for the season pass. i mean, joker is in because sega owns atlus and persona is popular and we had persona content in sonic froces. miku is in because sega has a good relationship with Crypton and they 're the developer of the project diva games. ichiban because sega's yakuza franchise is popular. pac man because sega is in a good relationship with namco bandai and they're adding a sonic the hedgehog themed dlc for pac man world 2 re-pac , steve, alex, and creeper from minecraft because there's a sonic the hedgehog content pack in minecraft, we're getting spongebob, the teenage mutant ninja turtles, and avatar because of sega's partnership with paramount and viacom and the success of sonic's film trilogy. but everyone is wondering what the last content pack will be.
 
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I thought I posted this on a discussion a bit ago on Sonic's rivals, but it didn't send, so lemme post it anyways:

I'm old enough to remember when Knuckles was "the Shadow" of Sonic - the cooler, edgier counterpart.
 
So yeah, Playtest was pretty fun. I don't think it's as good as Transformed or even what I expected. It's more zany than that game, but I think it's mitigated by the fact that skilled driving feels rewarding. Also, Big Boo is better than the Blue Shell as he actually has a good chance to fuck the other racers and not just the guy and first and anyone dumb enough to be right next to him. The flame pillars can be kind of tricky even for 4th or 5th place. Items may still be a bit much at time. The gear system was pretty neat. It's nice to have a build and adds some variety.

I do think $70 is way too much but I'd say that about pretty much every $70 game. Worth it if you can grab it for 50 or less based on the playtest
 
we're getting spongebob,
I'd swear, this is intentionally designed to outsell Mario Kart, at this point.

I'm old enough to remember when Knuckles was "the Shadow" of Sonic - the cooler, edgier counterpart.
Yeah, but both of the Adventure games didn't really waste any time at killing off his credibility. Even when the first one was nice enough to give him a backstory
 
Yeah, but both of the Adventure games didn't really waste any time at killing off his credibility
And then we had to wait for the movie(s) for him to get back that credibility... I think. Idk, does he do anything stupid in those too?
 
And then we had to wait for the movie(s) for him to get back that credibility... I think. Idk, does he do anything stupid in those too?
He kind of acts like an goofy idiot, in that one. But to be fair, he was kind of levelheaded in the handful of games where he's an background character... But that's basically just Heroes, at this point. Everything else had him act like an violent retard, which was hilarious when it happened in Sonic Battle. Or he's just there to punch something
 
I'm so burnt out of vidya reviewers talking about sonic in some aspects now. Saw a review of SA2 that started out strong but then went into the standard bugman script of having a like 8-10 minute long segment about how "HOW DOES THE GOVERNMENT MISTAKE SONIC FOR SHADOW? SHADOW DOESNT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE SONIC WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? GUESS IT'S A LEFTOVER OF WHEN HE WAS NAMED TERIOS AND JUST LOOKED LIKE SONIC." and this is unironic statements not content farm engagement shit. Like yeah there's likely some elements left over from when he was just a darker blue sonic with an eye scar and some cool wristbands but WIGGER YOU HAVE EYES. YOU PLAYED THROUGH SA1. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT REGISTER HE'S JUST BLACK SUPER SONIC. YOU ARE SHOWING FOOTAGE OF THE FINALHAZARD FIGHT WHERE THE TWO OF THEM LITERALLY USE THE SAME MODEL WITH DIFFERENT SHOES I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU.
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This of course also is neglecting the fact they framed sonic as a coverup to hide the existence of shadow, someone they literally destroyed all documentation of so all that was left was the paper about the fucking "failed prototype" of the biolizard.

NEXT YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THE SECTIONS WITH MECHS THAT ARE BIGGER THAN GAMMA ARE BAD FOR HAVING WEIGHT TO THE FUCKING MOVEMENT GO AHEAD I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT. (he did it by the way lmao)

Yeah, but both of the Adventure games didn't really waste any time at killing off his credibility. Even when the first one was nice enough to give him a backstory
He had the backstory as far back as Sonic 3. Adventure just elaborated on what destroyed his ancestors. (trying to use the emeralds for evil and trampling the googoo gaagaa critters to death which angered the local demigod)
 
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NEXT YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THE SECTIONS WITH MECHS THAT ARE BIGGER THAN GAMMA ARE BAD FOR HAVING WEIGHT TO THE FUCKING MOVEMENT GO AHEAD I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT.
Honestly, both of the SA games hasn't aged well, at all. But the mech levels were an mild improvement over Gamma's levels.
 
Honestly, both of the SA games hasn't aged well, at all. But the mech levels were an mild improvement over Gamma's levels
I wouldn't consider them being constantly ported over the year in buggier states "not aging well". That's a negligence thing. I think a lot of things are less aging and more a matter of taste with these. The mech levels aren't the same as gammas levels despite having similarities, but the entire deal with SA2's gameplay was honing in on what made the first game's gameplay fun and building on it. Big reason why the emerald radar is weird in 2 is because the stages are bigger and it gives newer players more time to explore instead of just tickboxing every emerald shard their first go around. Maybe I'm just weird but over the years I've kind of understood/speculated more of the logic behind choices in video game mechanics.

...Watching my fellow grown ass adult friends install mods for games I played as a kid to "fix" them and then raging at the game for aging bad" while they're flying off the side of a stage because they have no weighty inputs anymore is another factor of the mech stages I find very funny. It's a very "i told you man I warned you dog" kind of moment every fucking time it happens.
 
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I'm so burnt out of vidya reviewers talking about sonic in some aspects now. Saw a review of SA2 that started out strong but then went into the standard bugman script of having a like 8-10 minute long segment about how "HOW DOES THE GOVERNMENT MISTAKE SONIC FOR SHADOW? SHADOW DOESNT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE SONIC WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? GUESS IT'S A LEFTOVER OF WHEN HE WAS NAMED TERIOS AND JUST LOOKED LIKE SONIC." and this is unironic statements not content farm engagement shit. Like yeah there's likely some elements left over from when he was just a darker blue sonic with an eye scar and some cool wristbands but WIGGER YOU HAVE EYES. YOU PLAYED THROUGH SA1. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT REGISTER HE'S JUST BLACK SUPER SONIC. YOU ARE SHOWING FOOTAGE OF THE FINALHAZARD FIGHT WHERE THE TWO OF THEM LITERALLY USE THE SAME MODEL WITH DIFFERENT SHOES I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU.
There's also the question of how many mutant hedgehogs had been seen before this point, if we narrow it down to the games? Just Sonic and Amy, right?

I've said it before, but this is why Amy gets a pass IMO for the Prison Island thing. She's only known two anthro hedgehogs before, and one of them is her. She knows Sonic is on Prison Island, turns up there and see another hedgehog from behind. She naturally assumes it's Sonic. As you rightly pointed out, Shadow doesn't look that different from Sonic, especially from behind.
 
There's also the question of how many mutant hedgehogs had been seen before this point, if we narrow it down to the games? Just Sonic and Amy, right?

I've said it before, but this is why Amy gets a pass IMO for the Prison Island thing. She's only known two anthro hedgehogs before, and one of them is her. She knows Sonic is on Prison Island, turns up there and see another hedgehog from behind. She naturally assumes it's Sonic. As you rightly pointed out, Shadow doesn't look that different from Sonic, especially from behind.
It's never really stated how common or rare the weird little 3 foot tall animal goblin people are hedgehogs or otherwise, though they're clearly common enough that npcs in SA1 talk to the ones you play as like they're just random passerbys or neighbors(LITERALLY NEIGHBOR in amy's case), and one of them is a fed from a 3 letter agency in SA2. With the amy mistaking shadow for sonic thing It's blatantly meant to be an instance of that kind of phenomenon where you accidentally mistake someone from behind for someone they kinda look like. (Once again the super sonic thing mentioned earlier). Immediately after he turns around she goes "wait shit" sorry wrong guy" more or less. A big aspect of the game in general is how similar the two of them are despite having severely different backgrounds and being two different people. That brief gag adds to it a little bit that sets up for later stuff.
 
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Back to Sanic IDW, do you know that mystery villain that was so hyped? As expected, it ended up being a nothing-burger. There's a new location of sorts, for what's worth, for one. Next, this new character manages to avoid being instantly captured by Sonic and/or Shadow, likely due to padding the page-count the former sabotaging the latter's efforts because he's too violent, I don't follow IDW and even then Shad is unusually violent for a rando (plus he's jobbed A LOT in IDW for no reason). When she's finally cornered and captured, it seems she was probably brainwashed or blackmailed as she begins crying and acting as if she didn't know what she was doing. I'm certain this new character is a she because of her face (and full outfit), but perhaps she's a transfreak, doesn't matter anyway. The final panel is Eggman preparing another plan that will inevitably fail, as usual.
 
I'm so burnt out of vidya reviewers talking about sonic in some aspects now. Saw a review of SA2 that started out strong but then went into the standard bugman script of having a like 8-10 minute long segment about how "HOW DOES THE GOVERNMENT MISTAKE SONIC FOR SHADOW? SHADOW DOESNT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE SONIC WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? GUESS IT'S A LEFTOVER OF WHEN HE WAS NAMED TERIOS AND JUST LOOKED LIKE SONIC." and this is unironic statements not content farm engagement shit. Like yeah there's likely some elements left over from when he was just a darker blue sonic with an eye scar and some cool wristbands but WIGGER YOU HAVE EYES. YOU PLAYED THROUGH SA1. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT REGISTER HE'S JUST BLACK SUPER SONIC. YOU ARE SHOWING FOOTAGE OF THE FINALHAZARD FIGHT WHERE THE TWO OF THEM LITERALLY USE THE SAME MODEL WITH DIFFERENT SHOES I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU.
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This of course also is neglecting the fact they framed sonic as a coverup to hide the existence of shadow, someone they literally destroyed all documentation of so all that was left was the paper about the fucking "failed prototype" of the biolizard.

NEXT YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME THE SECTIONS WITH MECHS THAT ARE BIGGER THAN GAMMA ARE BAD FOR HAVING WEIGHT TO THE FUCKING MOVEMENT GO AHEAD I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT. (he did it by the way lmao)
Was this a recent video too? Pointing out that shadow looks nothing like Sonic in 2025 is like pointing out how Sonic 06 was le bad game. People will just parrot the same shit over and over again simply because they heard it before, despite the fact its been like 20+ years and we have new information to go off from. And in terms of changes being made during development and not fitting with the current context, SA2 was certainly not the worst offender of this at the time. For example, the last level of Halo Combat Evolved is infamous for being a mess of non sequitur dialog as a result of last minute changes being made. A weird comparison to make, but it's a good example of how people will tend to nit pick anything Sonic related to death but other franchises who done it worse get left alone. I'm pretty sure the main reason for that is because people find Sonic weird.
 

There's no new lore to be gained, it's just an ad reintroducing the Babylon Rogues and re-establishing that Jet was, many years ago, once a rival for Sonic in racing games.
 
Yeah, but both of the Adventure games didn't really waste any time at killing off his credibility. Even when the first one was nice enough to give him a backstory

And then we had to wait for the movie(s) for him to get back that credibility... I think. Idk, does he do anything stupid in those too?
I'm thankful the movies of all things restored his popularity and "coolness" to a good extent, indeed!

But more than anyone else, Knuckles suffered from the addition of other characters, especially rival/edgy ones - he and Metal were enough for Sonic (and Sonic 3 concept art/game design docs had him clearly designated as "Rival' even when he was once a hedgehog...) in terms of direct and equally-powered opponents. I also don't buy he needs to be on the Floating Island all the time story-wise. Even if you gotta justify it that he hides the Master Emerald or Rogue can't gun for the emerald all the time or whatever, it's just.... a gameplay thing. He pops down to help Sonic and co. That's all you gotta say.
 
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