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Source: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/psilocybin-brain-networks
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Psilocybin temporarily dissolves brain networks​

Normal synchronous behavior returns a day later
By Laura Sanders

Inside your skull, your brain hums along with its own unique pattern of activity, a neural fingerprint that’s yours and yours alone. A heavy dose of psilocybin temporarily wipes the prints clean.
The psychedelic drug psilocybin dramatically changes how collections of nerve cells work in the brain, eliminating normal communication between brain regions, a new brain scanning study published July 17 in Nature shows. These brain images, taken before, during and after a high dose of psilocybin, expand the understanding of the drug’s effects, which is being studied for its promise in treating mental health disorders such as depression.

The brain scanning protocol researchers used was intense. “We had a small number of people, just seven participants in the whole study, but an enormous amount of data on each one,” says Joshua Siegel, a neuroscientist and psychiatrist at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Each person underwent about 18 functional MRI brain scans, one roughly every other day, over the course of the study.

That repeated scanning gives “an unprecedented view on how brain connectivity evolves after a dose of psilocybin,” says Alex Kwan, a neuroscientist at Cornell University who wasn’t involved in the study.

In the first part of the experiment, Siegel and colleagues recorded each person’s baseline brain activity, the unique patterns that emerge much like a fingerprint’s whorls, loops and arches when a person simply rests.

Later in the study, researchers gave participants 25 milligrams of psilocybin, a key ingredient in some hallucinogenic mushrooms, and watched what happened in the scanner. On a different day, for comparison, each participant also got a dose of methylphenidate, the generic form of Ritalin, a stimulant that affects the brain.

The effects of psilocybin were obvious, and big. “Psilocybin had humongous acute effects on the human brain,” says Nico Dosenbach, a neuroscientist also at Washington University School of Medicine. “Way, way, way bigger than the active control,” the methylphenidate.

Some of the biggest changes were in a brain system known as the default mode network, or DMN. This coordinated group of brain regions is active when nothing particular is happening. Scientists think that the DMN has a role in creating our sense of self (SN: 7/3/09). “It’s multiple parts of the brain across both hemispheres, but they’re all activating and deactivating in a very organized, synchronous way,” Siegel says. “And with psilocybin, it essentially becomes chaos.”

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Dosenbach can attest that the drug causes a loss of sense of self. Along with being a researcher on the study, he was one of the seven study participants, giving him an unusual perspective on psilocybin’s effects on the brain. “You read about it, and you think about it and then you experience it, and you’re like, ‘Wow, that’s even more real.’”

Signs of those experiences showed up in the MRI scans. The team saw that psilocybin seemed to wipe clean the participants’ neural fingerprints. Dosenbach has an analogy to explain the brain changes in the scans: “You’d be like, ‘That is my face, and that is your face.’ And then you took a medicine, and we both had a puppy face — very similar, but very different from our normal faces.”

A day after taking the drug, most of psilocybin’s brain changes were gone, Siegel says. But one change persisted for three weeks. There was diminished coordination between the DMN and a part of the hippocampus, a structure involved in memory. Researchers don’t yet know how long this change might last, how it affects the brain overall or if it could hint at psilocybin’s therapeutic effects. It was not present in data from four of the participants who came in for scans six to 12 months later, but the study didn’t have enough data to say with certainty that it was gone.

The findings add to earlier work that sought to understand how psychedelic drugs change brains and show that the effects are far from simple. “Psilocybin is not simply tuning brain activity up or down,” Kwan says. “The results paint a more complex and nuanced picture for how psychedelics change neural activity dynamics than previously thought.”

Recent studies point to the promise of psychedelic drugs as therapies for depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, addiction and more (SN: 12/3/21). Understanding how these drugs affect the brain in the hours, days and months after taking it may lead to better treatments for some of these disorders.
 
I don't like the idea of putting my brain in the hands of someone else, let alone an "unlicensed pharmacist." We don't know shit about how it works and I wouldn't experiment with my own.
 
Sounds safe and effective to me to throw fire into the brain.
 
Recent studies show psychedelics have promising medicinal potential? I had no idea the 1950s were recent.
 
As an experiment, I've always wanted to know what it's like to trip balls and what I would be like as a person afterwards...
It's terrifying while it's happening but afterwards was probably the most calm and content with just being alive I've ever been as a person. The feeling lasted for months too.
 
What about schizoid disorders and shit like that?
It's long been known that psychedelics can trigger schizophrenia in people susceptible to it. It's one reason I refuse to touch them under any circumstances. Becoming one with the universe isn't worth a lifetime of being trapped in a nightmare prison within your own mind.

Also, based on what I see online, all psychedelics do is make you think you're much smarter and wiser than you actually are, and alcohol already does that with less dangerous and permanent side effects.
 
I'm a little worried about how the media seems to be really pushing psychedelic drugs like psilocybin. Recently there was an SNL sketch where a character was ridiculed for being uncomfortable with using them. I think that's really dangerous messaging because these drugs aren't harmless, things can go south with them very easily.
I think most people who could potentially benefit from these drugs could equally benefit from laughing their ass off the hardest they ever have laughed in their entire life, for a full four to six hours.

I'm sure that rewires some neural pathways without drugs.
 
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I think most people who could potentially benefit from these drugs could equally benefit from laughing their ass off the hardest they ever have laughed in their entire life, for a full four to six hours.

I'm sure that rewires some neural pathways without drugs.
You know how hard it is to find something that funny with modern entertainment
 
Microdosing magic mushrooms or taking a massive hit (5g+) and tripping balls has been proven to remove depression, anxiety and PTSD from people with trauma.

As an experiment, I've always wanted to know what it's like to trip balls and what I would be like as a person afterwards...
Speaking as someone who's had a very positive experience with mushrooms, it does feel like it shuts off the part of you that holds pre-conceived notions and filters out shit you've seen/thought a million times. It basically forces you to look at yourself objectively, which can be pretty heavy.

The closest thing I could compare it to someone who's never done drugs is: the positive part of the state of mind you're in after something serious like a death in the family. Where something rocks you hard enough that it makes everything else sort of fall away, and you remember what's important in life.

The upshot is that if you're lying to yourself and/or just going with the flow without thinking, it can force you to stop. One example is like how some people quit smoking cigarettes or drinking after they trip. You kinda have to have this dismissive "Ahh, whatever." sort of attitude towards your own health to be a heavy smoker. They trip, and then it's like "Holy shit, I don't wanna risk lung cancer for fucking cigs, what the fuck is wrong with me." then stop.

For me, it was the realization that the career I was pursuing was not at all what I wanted out of life, and that I was just doing what I thought would make my parents happy. Kinda made me shed any sort of insecure desire to do stuff just to "fit in".

That last part is probably what fucks people who overdo it or are kinda schizo to begin with, though.
 
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You know how hard it is to find something that funny with modern entertainment
Yes, it's quite easy. Much easier than finding / doing / risking your sanity on drugs.

You don't want to find something that makes you that happy, so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
No wonder they want to keep it illegal. This shit could change so many lives if used in a controlled environment for people with mental issues.
 
No it hasn't. Lesné's original claims about Aβ56 have been debunked, but beta-amyloids like Aβ42 and 40 in the CSF are still of high diagnostic value, as is a genetic marker that correlates with Aβ production in Alzheimer's.
Read the entire thing. The only correlation between beta amyloid plaques, and Alzheimer's is the original work in the 1900's.
They've removed the plaques, and seen zero reduction in disease progression.

It's just bullshit.
 
Nah depressed people still under-produce serotonin, what psilocybin and other hallucinogens do is act as a temporary supplement for it by binding to the same parts of neurons.
For a few, the mental change is enough for them to change their lifestyle sufficiently to up their own serotonin production. For others, they fall back into the same bad habits.
Maybe not. They keep having trouble finding actual evidence that supports the serotonin hypothesis, and SSRIs keep failing to outperform placebos in far too many studies.

I'm a little worried about how the media seems to be really pushing psychedelic drugs like psilocybin. Recently there was an SNL sketch where a character was ridiculed for being uncomfortable with using them. I think that's really dangerous messaging because these drugs aren't harmless, things can go south with them very easily.
Whenever they suddenly are all on board something like this, pushing it as Safe and Effective, possibly a miracle cure that can solve all these intractable problems of human life, get VERY suspicious.
 
Why must they use words like "dissolve"? Dissolve is absolutely not the correct word to use to describe what is going on. The best way to explains it is like a large burst of noise in an ordered system. It completely disrupts the normal aspects of the system, then as the system settles down, it goes back to working like usual.

By just deleting neurological pathways randomly it seems.

Not how it works. Pathways are still the same, structure is intact, but there is a flux in how the pathways are coordinating with one another, that's all.

I'm not a rocket surgeon or brain scientist, but from what I remember reading, it destroys the depression/anxiety/trauma neurons because once they're gone, they don't come back.

Nope. There is no neuronal death.

So given that Alzheimers fucks neurological pathways could this mitigate the damage?
(Just spitballing here)

No. Alzheimer's involves toxic proteins accumulating and murdering neurons resulting in irreversible brain damage.

Nah depressed people still under-produce serotonin, what psilocybin and other hallucinogens do is act as a temporary supplement for it by binding to the same parts of neurons.

Not exactly. It does involve interaction with a very specific type of serotonin receptor, but not as a subsitution for serotonin.
 
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