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Source: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/psilocybin-brain-networks
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Psilocybin temporarily dissolves brain networks​

Normal synchronous behavior returns a day later
By Laura Sanders

Inside your skull, your brain hums along with its own unique pattern of activity, a neural fingerprint that’s yours and yours alone. A heavy dose of psilocybin temporarily wipes the prints clean.
The psychedelic drug psilocybin dramatically changes how collections of nerve cells work in the brain, eliminating normal communication between brain regions, a new brain scanning study published July 17 in Nature shows. These brain images, taken before, during and after a high dose of psilocybin, expand the understanding of the drug’s effects, which is being studied for its promise in treating mental health disorders such as depression.

The brain scanning protocol researchers used was intense. “We had a small number of people, just seven participants in the whole study, but an enormous amount of data on each one,” says Joshua Siegel, a neuroscientist and psychiatrist at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Each person underwent about 18 functional MRI brain scans, one roughly every other day, over the course of the study.

That repeated scanning gives “an unprecedented view on how brain connectivity evolves after a dose of psilocybin,” says Alex Kwan, a neuroscientist at Cornell University who wasn’t involved in the study.

In the first part of the experiment, Siegel and colleagues recorded each person’s baseline brain activity, the unique patterns that emerge much like a fingerprint’s whorls, loops and arches when a person simply rests.

Later in the study, researchers gave participants 25 milligrams of psilocybin, a key ingredient in some hallucinogenic mushrooms, and watched what happened in the scanner. On a different day, for comparison, each participant also got a dose of methylphenidate, the generic form of Ritalin, a stimulant that affects the brain.

The effects of psilocybin were obvious, and big. “Psilocybin had humongous acute effects on the human brain,” says Nico Dosenbach, a neuroscientist also at Washington University School of Medicine. “Way, way, way bigger than the active control,” the methylphenidate.

Some of the biggest changes were in a brain system known as the default mode network, or DMN. This coordinated group of brain regions is active when nothing particular is happening. Scientists think that the DMN has a role in creating our sense of self (SN: 7/3/09). “It’s multiple parts of the brain across both hemispheres, but they’re all activating and deactivating in a very organized, synchronous way,” Siegel says. “And with psilocybin, it essentially becomes chaos.”

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Dosenbach can attest that the drug causes a loss of sense of self. Along with being a researcher on the study, he was one of the seven study participants, giving him an unusual perspective on psilocybin’s effects on the brain. “You read about it, and you think about it and then you experience it, and you’re like, ‘Wow, that’s even more real.’”

Signs of those experiences showed up in the MRI scans. The team saw that psilocybin seemed to wipe clean the participants’ neural fingerprints. Dosenbach has an analogy to explain the brain changes in the scans: “You’d be like, ‘That is my face, and that is your face.’ And then you took a medicine, and we both had a puppy face — very similar, but very different from our normal faces.”

A day after taking the drug, most of psilocybin’s brain changes were gone, Siegel says. But one change persisted for three weeks. There was diminished coordination between the DMN and a part of the hippocampus, a structure involved in memory. Researchers don’t yet know how long this change might last, how it affects the brain overall or if it could hint at psilocybin’s therapeutic effects. It was not present in data from four of the participants who came in for scans six to 12 months later, but the study didn’t have enough data to say with certainty that it was gone.

The findings add to earlier work that sought to understand how psychedelic drugs change brains and show that the effects are far from simple. “Psilocybin is not simply tuning brain activity up or down,” Kwan says. “The results paint a more complex and nuanced picture for how psychedelics change neural activity dynamics than previously thought.”

Recent studies point to the promise of psychedelic drugs as therapies for depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, addiction and more (SN: 12/3/21). Understanding how these drugs affect the brain in the hours, days and months after taking it may lead to better treatments for some of these disorders.
 
Microdosing magic mushrooms or taking a massive hit (5g+) and tripping balls has been proven to remove depression, anxiety and PTSD from people with trauma.

As an experiment, I've always wanted to know what it's like to trip balls and what I would be like as a person afterwards...
 
Microdosing magic mushrooms or taking a massive hit (5g+) and tripping balls has been proven to remove depression, anxiety and PTSD from people with trauma.
By just deleting neurological pathways randomly it seems.

Signs of those experiences showed up in the MRI scans. The team saw that psilocybin seemed to wipe clean the participants’ neural fingerprints.

Bring back lobotomies.
 
Fascinating shit. I wonder what sort of results one could have mixing up large amounts of such drugs and specifically curated Brain-Machine Interfaces.

EDIT: Thinking about it a bit more I think I realize what I was sorta thinking. Could this be used to try and enhance/facilitate Brain-Machine Interfaces by "dissolving" the networks, putting the electrodes and connectors and then letting the high wear off so when the networks "reform" they try and connect with the new access points? Does this make any sense whatsoever or am I tripping? Academics please respond.
 
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I'm not a rocket surgeon or brain scientist, but from what I remember reading, it destroys the depression/anxiety/trauma neurons because once they're gone, they don't come back.
Everyone (including too many doctors) thinks the brain is like a very complicated Lego build. Just throw out the bad bricks and all better!

Does not remotely work that way.
 
So given that Alzheimers fucks neurological pathways could this mitigate the damage?
(Just spitballing here)
 
So given that Alzheimers fucks neurological pathways could this mitigate the damage?
(Just spitballing here)
No, Alzheimer's isn't an electrical or conductive aberration. It's a structural deterioration and then death of the gray matter by beta amyloid plaques. You can't rewire what just isn't there anymore.
 
I'm not a rocket surgeon or brain scientist, but from what I remember reading, it destroys the depression/anxiety/trauma neurons because once they're gone, they don't come back.
Nah depressed people still under-produce serotonin, what psilocybin and other hallucinogens do is act as a temporary supplement for it by binding to the same parts of neurons.
For a few, the mental change is enough for them to change their lifestyle sufficiently to up their own serotonin production. For others, they fall back into the same bad habits.
 
By just deleting neurological pathways randomly it seems.
I'm not a rocket surgeon or brain scientist, but from what I remember reading, it destroys the depression/anxiety/trauma neurons because once they're gone, they don't come back.
So this is why druggies are all massive retards?

I always assumed they just started out that way.
All this reminds me of something I've heard from a couple hippies and other spiritual types; namely, that consciousness isn't really a thing. It's a phenomenon. So if you fully stop consciousness, then a new process starts.
One lady explained it as the original soul leaving the body and another one coming in.
A different guy explained it like a computer turning off and restarting.
Another one said our bodies are like radios and we pick up "signals" from somewhere else.
 
I'm a little worried about how the media seems to be really pushing psychedelic drugs like psilocybin. Recently there was an SNL sketch where a character was ridiculed for being uncomfortable with using them. I think that's really dangerous messaging because these drugs aren't harmless, things can go south with them very easily.
 
When I read stuff like this all I can think is "Wow damn that sounds like it could really fuck you up"

I'm no straight edge fag but I've met my share of burnouts and acid casualties. What about schizoid disorders and shit like that? Certain aspects of a heavy trip could certainly already be considered a form of psychosis. This stuff is supposed to be one and done, I really, really would not want to experiment on myself to find out how safe tripping balls is in the long term.

My buddy became a shroomfag and constantly takes moderate to heavy doses, along with "microdosing" amounts that would likely cause threshold effects in some people, myself included. I keep telling him that he's gonna get fried but he swears by the benefits and is using consistently. Well at least I'll get some data out of it!
 
Psilocybin really can change your outlook. That shit helps you realize that no matter what problems you may have you don't have to be unhappy. Happiness is a choice. And that sense lasts for weeks. It's been decades since I've done shrooms and the effects are looong gone, but even knowing that sense of well-being is possible is reassuring. They should prescribe that instead of opioids.

I would love to be able to do a mild dose once a year.

That said, a bad trip is not a good time. Your sense of time and self are badly warped. Enjoy only being able to focus on one thought for a couple seconds at most. Do not mix with alcohol.
 
I'm a little worried about how the media seems to be really pushing psychedelic drugs like psilocybin. Recently there was an SNL sketch where a character was ridiculed for being uncomfortable with using them. I think that's really dangerous messaging because these drugs aren't harmless, things can go south with them very easily.
I say let them find out
 
I'm a little worried about how the media seems to be really pushing psychedelic drugs like psilocybin. Recently there was an SNL sketch where a character was ridiculed for being uncomfortable with using them. I think that's really dangerous messaging because these drugs aren't harmless, things can go south with them very easily.
Same deal with weed.
The idea that it's totally safe for everyone with no downsides for anyone ever is very misleading.
 
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