🤝 Community Omegaverse, Yaoi, and MPreg Fandom Discussion Thread - God help us all

[Chandelier]

Honestly, the answer is that they are: A) womanchildren B) compensating for lack of irl emotive conversation & C) tumblr culture. Some of them are teenagers/little kids, but not most.

There's also been a trend on YouTube on diving into the fujo mindset and arguing it's normal from a political standpoint. Mina Le is the third person to make a video on this.

"Fandom is fascist" - well it is pretty white, so...

The top comment:

It's literally the same argument every single time. "There's a safety in removing women."



This is the video. Figured you might take a crack at it since you brought up the NLOG fanfiction women in The Pooner Zoo:

I also want to see that "fascism in fandom" video, which is ironic since the majority of fandom is centered around pale men.

 

[Iodine]

There's also been a trend on YouTube on diving into the fujo mindset and arguing it's normal from a political standpoint. Mina Le is the third person to make a video on this.

I don't participate in female fandoms and shipping but one very opinionated artist I follow does, so her sperging about fandom discourse made its way to my feed. At this point, I can't even be annoyed by the repetitiveness anymore. I'm simply amazed how long the "why is fandom obsessed with yaoi?" discourse has been going on for. From an outsider's perspective, the answer is very obvious - fandoms are heavily single-sex and the overwhelming majority of women are straight. Straight women get lady boners from men and not women, so on a large community scale, sexual activities like shipping will focus on men. Yet both sides keep arguing in circles about misogyny and poorly written female characters, and the one time I brought up the obvious answer to one of the spergy artist's reply girls I got screeched at for claiming that fandoms are female-dominated because le heckin' enbies and pooners are totally not female.

I think there's two layers of denial in this discourse: the first about female fandom's demographics, and the second about fandom's sexualization. Both sides are trying to act like fandom isn't just for women despite the demographic reality because girly stuff is cringe and they're NLOG I guess? Then they also try to act like shipping, the activity where one imagines fictional people in a sexual relationship, is NOT a sexual activity and does not reflect a person's sexuality. Hence, a "lesbian" yaoi fangirl is not a contradiction to them. This is perplexing because male fandoms are honest about being sausage parties and sexualizing a character is understood as you wanting to fuck them. Why is this so difficult for female fandoms to admit?

Can't provide a thread tax because I have not heard a novel argument within this discourse in years. It will just be a rehash of what has been posted in this thread multiple times.

 

[Jacques1194]

I don’t trust any lesbian who gets off to two men fucking. Are you fucking kidding me? The entire point of being a lesbian is not being attracted to men.

I had a bunch of “kaweeeeer” women get mad at me because I said that their defense of being fujoshi (“why can men get off to lesbians and it’s okay but it’s suddenly a problem when women get off to gay men???”) was just as not okay as men fetishizing lesbians.

They were very mad and I still give zero fucks.

I remember following this one user on IG who claims to be a lesbian and was obsessed with Byler from Stranger Things and it was weird. Im not saying lesbians cant find and relate to m/m relationships. I mean Im straight and sometimes I can relate to some gay ships because of how the dynamics reminded me of my ex crush. However, this "lesbian" was clearly fetishizing over Byler and was super pissed off by the fact that they didn't end up together. Mind you, there was a lesbian pair that became canon at the end of the show and she didn't give a shit about it despite the fact that she claims to be a lesbian.

Yet both sides keep arguing in circles about misogyny and poorly written female characters, and the one time I brought up the obvious answer to one of the spergy artist's reply girls I got screeched at for claiming that fandoms are female-dominated because le heckin' enbies and pooners are totally not female.

Like I said, its obviously bullshit because even in shows where the females are written well they still choose to write fics about the m/m characters because "They have better chemistry".

It's literally the same argument every single time. "There's a safety in removing women."

Any straight couple that has an argument is automatically labelled misogynistic or if they think the male character is written better than the female character, it is also labelled misogynistic. If these people really believe that, why when they make a T4T straight couple or at least make one of the characters trans, do these people not complain? I thought they were exactly like "cis" couples?

 

[Chandelier]

You'll never guess what prompted this Mexican shotacon to call a black fan a "slave."


Hint: a thread on a Latino feeling jealousy over his mixed race child sired on a "man with a vagina." The author later doubled down and went, "WOW, SO BROWN MEN CAN'T HAVE PERSONALITIES?!" No, babe, we just find it funny how you confirm the stereotypes, one of them being that Latinos have a remarkably high CSA rate.



With that in mind, here's the Latina's sweet, timeless thread on how she likes the headcanon that her race of men get jealous of their own offspring.

Spoiler: You can't tell me what to do, gringo!

Just gonna drop this link here on how Latino children suffer higher abuse rates. So glad to see this aspect of their culture is reflected.


There was plenty of praise, including from a fellow pedophile, SensualLettuce:

"Who the fuck invited you?"
"It's public, lmao"

True to form, our Latina doubled down. Her definition of a brown man having a personality is...making him a child abuser.

"I'm not racist, YOU are! My fave headcanon involves a Latino getting sexually frustrated and jealous at his own child!"

Don't worry, the Russians came in to help.

Ma'am, the thread is on a brown man getting jealous at his own child because it "takes time away" from sex. Maybe address why the brown man is getting angry and why the white one is always getting pregnant.

"Ugh. Why can't they just respect our spaces?!"

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You've heard of fujos being the lifeline of fandoms. Here's another one proudly proclaiming that fandoms would be "nothing" without them. She later shut off. replies.

Spoiler: Lifeblood locusts

Alien Stage has a lesbian couple. Guess which ship the fandom focuses on: the male one.



"It wouldn't survive without the yaoi"

They like to blame COVID for these people "infecting" their yaoi.

Finally, a fitting response:

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Goforeddie continues to get whacked over her takes.

And none for actual lesbians. Their feed is just filled with men.

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The user who once said "freaks gave you AO3" acts shocked a white woman takes her argument to its formal conclusion: telling gay men they're faggots and need to be quiet while they furiously masturbate to idealized male fantasies.

The OG thread:

Spoiler: You're in our house now

"A gay man directed it so who cares"

Fujos, just a few days earlier, were jumping lesbians for not liking men, insisting gay men were their "cousins." This is their reaction today.





Uh oh...

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Another lesbian woman tries to lay down the law with gay men. They promptly showed her that, at their core, they're still men, and will push back without any of the apologia fujos have.

Spoiler: It's OUR house, you faggot

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A Buddie fan laments how COVID ruined fandom etiquette.

Spoiler: Why can't people be polite?

Bemoaning about government actions you wholeheartedly supported. Want some cheese with that whine?

This was a wild exchange.

The OP's Twitter, as you can expect, is filled with males.

Not everyone bought this excuse.



Likewise, this user tried to say MLM wasn't the status quo as only 3% of romance stories are MLM. On AO3, it's well over 60%.

We're talking about fujos, girl. Not published gay stories because they largely avoid those.

I did laugh at this.

 

[DeeNaMeeTay]

“Erm, we aren’t homophobic nor fetishizing lgbt bc a lot of women who enjoy mlm and bl are queer themselves!”

 

[SpinelessArtist]

I genuinely have to wonder how many of these yurifags arguing with fujos are actual real life lesbians. You could definitely say that these Twitter lesbians who love yaoi aren't really lesbians, but the tryhard leftist, America-hating yurifags who get incredibly mad at straight women liking men don't seem to lesbians all that much as well. These are the people who honest-to-god believe men can be women and "nonbinaries" can be lesbians. It's all a big performative game.



Also, I kek at them sperging about racism when they're incredibly prejudiced about white people. Go to any of these yurifags profiles and you'll see a massive influx of Israel posts demanding for the deaths of gringos and white people.



Yurifag black tranny calling for the deaths of "white demons".

You definitely don't want to be on the side of these people, and I don't think they're an example to be followed at all. They're deranged western/third world teens who use Yuri and fandom as yet another political stance. It's very funny, actually, how a teenagers view of being political is trolling fujos. I also can't take their claims of being anti-misogyny seriously, since the people they harass are all women just like them. It's a big cat fight on who's the wokest of them all. Who is the most progressive by shipping anime characters? Is it the women LARPing as lesbians who like yaoi? Or is it the BLACK women LARPing as lesbians who pretend to like yuri but also secretly like yaoi??



Nigger you ARE a woman too. "Why won't these stupid fucking women watch the yuri I love purely for twitter clout?" What was that about misogyny again?

White fujos need to be more racist. They're the butt of the joke of black supremacists and just take it like the pathetic idiots that they are. I yearn for the day where calling niggers niggers will be more socially acceptable again. And this discourse is all coined by brown third worlders, you actually have to wonder if this is all just a big jealousy fest.



I don't feel any sympathy for these idiots. How do they expect the world not to hate black people when they're this aggressive?

 

[Poopfart]

Also, I kek at them sperging about racism when they're incredibly prejudiced about white people. Go to any of these yurifags profiles and you'll see a massive influx of Israel posts demanding for the deaths of gringos and white people.

They say that but they will almost never find any man (bc they’re almost always only into men despite being “queer”) that isn’t white or East Asian attractive lol.

 

[Jacques1194]

I genuinely have to wonder how many of these yurifags arguing with fujos are actual real life lesbians. You could definitely say that these Twitter lesbians who love yaoi aren't really lesbians, but the tryhard leftist, America-hating yurifags who get incredibly mad at straight women liking men don't seem to lesbians all that much as well. These are the people who honest-to-god believe men can be women and "nonbinaries" can be lesbians. It's all a big performative game.

Honestly, its hard to really know how many accounts of these "lesbian" women who are into bl/yaoi are really lesbians. Again, its one thing to relate to it, its another to have this bizarre obsession with it to the point where they give over the top reactions to it. Like why would lesbians care so much that Byler didn't become canon?

“Erm, we aren’t homophobic nor fetishizing lgbt bc a lot of women who enjoy mlm and bl are queer themselves!”

What exactly does "queer" mean? If the majority of these women are "queer" in the sense of being lesbians, why do they care so much about yaoi and not yuri? Its not like yuri media doesn't exist. Same if these women are "bi". Where's the love for yuri? If they mean queer as in "non binary" or "trans men" then why are you claiming they're women when according to trans logic, they aren't women. This is why I hate the term queer. Its a term that means nothing in the end

 

[Jacques1194]

Sorry for double posting but this is from the Reddit thread and felt it fit here.

 

[YWNBAM]

Fot the longest time I skipped checking this thread, assuming it is all faghags gushing about "muh cute boys" and pulling the good old fujoshit classic like "b-b-but media for men is worse!!!!!!". Glad to see it's not that morbid on this website and there are plenty of people seeing this subculture for what it is. A direct female equivalent to an average purist moe pig otaku guy. Despite what they may claim.

Personally, I have a lot of distain and negative experience with fujoshi as fans and creators. They are a furry level of invasive, inserting themselves everywhere and spreading female character hate through their stories.

And if you think this is only a problem with the West, you would be dead wrong. In fact, many japanese people are also pretty much fed up with fujoshi. Here are some threads that get monthly updates where anons complain about fujoshi being a menace in fandom spaces and spreading globohomo/tranny positivity into japanese media

Fujoshi/BL anti-thread #801 - https://medaka.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/doujin/1513139976/
A thread to discuss woman-hate in fujoshi spaces - https://medaka.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/doujin/1489234570/
Complaints about fujoshi/faghag pandering in games for girls - https://tters.jp/g/wtvk46v1difz
A thread for outing fujoshi authors/fujoshi pandering authors writing non-bl media - https://pug.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/nanmin/1766113963/l50

And there are many, many others. I don't think i have seen a single western thread (well, aside from this one i guess) being this dedicated to their fujoshi hatred. It's highly autistic but i can appreciate the efford and sheer spite towards faghags. These glorious oneesans are pissed and have the right to. If you are curious, you can use the translate option and check out what anons say there about the culture their own country has created. In general, it's all the same as what is said here. Japan is simply suffering the most from it.

Out of my memory, a few interesting terms i got from these are:

a landmine = homosexual ship/character teasing in a media which does not advertise itself as BL
rotten stench = fujoshi being involved
omnivorse fujoshi = a fujoshi who consumes non-bl/straight content. Usually these types do it just to make it lame and male gay.

So yeah, there are no "the good ones". Japan says TFD.

 

[Poopfart]

Honestly, its hard to really know how many accounts of these "lesbian" women who are into bl/yaoi are really lesbians. Again, its one thing to relate to it, its another to have this bizarre obsession with it to the point where they give over the top reactions to it. Like why would lesbians care so much that Byler didn't become canon?

What exactly does "queer" mean? If the majority of these women are "queer" in the sense of being lesbians, why do they care so much about yaoi and not yuri? It’s not like yuri media doesn't exist. Same if these women are "bi". Where's the love for yuri? If they mean queer as in "non binary" or "trans men" then why are you claiming they're women when according to trans logic, they aren't women. This is why I hate the term queer. Its a term that means nothing in the end

I have a huge aversion to the term “queer” now because way too many ostensibly straight women use it because they think it makes them seem woke or some shit and gives them a free pass to fetishize gay men. Fuck, even “lesbian” isn’t safe because some women think it’s okay for lesbians to be very into men and fetishize gay men. But I have to remind myself that these disgusting fujos online arent trying to date women offline and a lot of the adult fujos are married to men.

But still it fucking suuuuuuucks to see gay women labels used as a force field to avoid accountability in straight women ruining every fucking fandom with their fujo stink.

These disgusting goon-rotted women ruin EVERYTHING.

 

[Chandelier]

Honestly, its hard to really know how many accounts of these "lesbian" women who are into bl/yaoi are really lesbians. Again, its one thing to relate to it, its another to have this bizarre obsession with it to the point where they give over the top reactions to it. Like why would lesbians care so much that Byler didn't become canon?

They are male centric/androcentric, because they believe that males, and only males, can be full people. One of the main arguments you see on those yaoi videos is that they do not interact with F/F or M/F content is because the latter perpetuates gender roles and misogyny, and the former is 'too boring' or 'too triggering' because there are two women. Rather than admit that it's just about liking dick, they always spin it into an activist lens, with the 'I like it because men are allowed to show vulnerability' (the bare minimum) before making tweets about how their yaoi needs rape or it isn't interesting. Those non-white lesbians have a point: these queer/straight women claim to be feminists and yet do not engage with media involving women because they naturally think women are inferior and that only men can be equal to each other. They say as much when they think people aren't looking.

Their politics also begin and end with porn, such as this tweet that decided to conflate their porn getting banned to Gaza getting flattened by bombs:

Spoiler: My horniness is free speech

The tweet was originally meant to bring up the hypocrisy of Collective Shout wanting to ban porn while defending 'Cuties'. Meanwhile, these people need to defend their porn against the backdrop of ethnic cleansing.

The OP was later revealed to be a defender of PornHub, a website that hosted the videos of actual rape victims. Despite women like Rose Kalemba, who had videos of her rape at the age of 15 promoted on that website, asking for it to be taken down, they refused.

An Arab Bakudeku fan discusses porn being banned thanks to Collective Shout.

Spoiler: No fatwa against my porn

"They want to ban it because they're embarrassed" - No, I think we know a little too much.

These people were silent when guys like Alex Jones were getting de-banked. When they came for their porn, they weren't laughing anymore.

A troon insists that porn is a way of life for them, and integral for the free speech of LGBT people. Oblige them and read 'Genderqueer' for yourself and see if the stereotypes are true.


"I yearn for the gay they get their just desserts" - Such as? I wonder what kind of morbid thoughts this individual has in mind.


They're right. Name these 'icky' things. What are they? Rape, incest, cannibalism? If they aren't so bad you can say them with your whole chest, and describe the stories you enjoy in detail. You need to sell it to normies to make money, after all.

They'll want porn protected but Camp of the Saints gets memory-holed.

Sorry for double posting but this is from the Reddit thread and felt it fit here.

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There were a few tweets showing Heated Rivalry fans sending hate messages to Francois Arnaud for allegedly being in a relationship with Connor Storie, the actor for Ilya. They were raging that Hudson Williams was 'queerbaiting' them and telling the legitimate bisexual man that he should get AIDS because he was getting in the way. These fujos claim to love men and everything about them, even going so far as making viral posts on how Alysa Liu is their 'daughter', and then sound like Anita Bryant when they don't get what they want.

That New Yorker article reveals that the entire 'Game Changer' series was based on Steve/Bucky fanfic so we can add that to the list of fanfic becoming published novels (Red, White, and Royal Blue is suspected of being a Merthur fanfic and Alchemised is the most popular example). That article also shows that the majority of those who show up to fan events are all straight women, and actual gay men (and a few pooners among them) felt it was the 'straightest thing ever'.

They say that but they will almost never find any man (bc they’re almost always only into men despite being “queer”) that isn’t white or East Asian attractive lol.

I keep saying it, but fujos are really a bizarre last faction of white protectionism. They are whiter than most European countries at this point, and manage to keep having racial SNAFUs despite being extremely progressive people. The Top 100 AO3 ships being nearly all white/pale men says it all. The three Hispanic men in those lists are barely darker than a paper bag; if they looked like Guatemalans these women would be sneering. A shame we can't get them to read The Bell Curve or wear 'Abort and Deport' t-shirts.

Also, a nice factoid: this is how many MLM fics were posted to AO3 in the month of February. It's the highest in years. In years prior, it barely cracked 70k. Biggest ships were Byler and Hollanov.

 

[SpinelessArtist]

People really need to be more honest with themselves. Trying to "destigmatize" jerking it to gay men just gives ammunition to faghags so as to break down their arguments with more of the same moral guilt-tripping that much of the left is expert on. Brown Yuri fags can't cope with the fact that most fujos are A. straight, B. love white people, C. don't find them attractive. Like yeah, I love white men, and love even more when they're fucking each other, wtf are you going to do about it? They really need to become immune to the left's manipulation tactics. Being aggressive towards fujos won't make them like your smelly nigger pussy more. I'm very tired of these cowards just taking it like the obedient dogs that they are. White people, especially white straight people are way too passive against this blatant hatred towards them.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

And if you think this is only a problem with the West, you would be dead wrong. In fact, many japanese people are also pretty much fed up with fujoshi. Here are some threads that get monthly updates where anons complain about fujoshi being a menace in fandom spaces and spreading globohomo/tranny positivity into japanese media

If it turns out social media has (slowly) led to the death of fujoshi pandering, I swear.

 

[Your old Livejournal]

If it turns out social media has (slowly) led to the death of fujoshi pandering, I swear.

As much as I'd like that, I'll have to disagree. Just look at fujo slop like Heated Rivalry and the inclusion of tropey m/m ships in mainstream media. I fear we've yet to reach peak yaoi. And imo we won't be able to get rid of that scourge unless shipping as a whole gets pushed back into a corner of online fandom. With how obsessed everyone seems these days with ~queerness~, sexuality and gooning I sadly don't see that happening anytime soon.

On a related note, my personal yaoi cow stated again that she doesn't see her children as her legacy but her pornographic smut fics that are bursting with the current popular kinks and poly propaganda.



I'd die of shame if my mother said something like that. (Hers, on the other hand, both pooned out, which obviously can't have anything to do with their mother being openly poly, no, never.)

Also, what is it with those people's obsession with "sex positivity"? Why do they want everyone's lives to be focused on fucking? Do they really have no other hobbies/interests?

 

[Jacques1194]

I have a huge aversion to the term “queer” now because way too many ostensibly straight women use it because they think it makes them seem woke or some shit and gives them a free pass to fetishize gay men. Fuck, even “lesbian” isn’t safe because some women think it’s okay for lesbians to be very into men and fetishize gay men. But I have to remind myself that these disgusting fujos online arent trying to date women offline and a lot of the adult fujos are married to men.

Its basically become a term that means nothing. Another term is asexual/aromantic. I know the argument is that you can like romance novels and stuff thats very ecchi and still be asexual/aromantic, but I swear most asexual Ive seen are the horniest people I've encountered and every aromanitic person seems to be hopelessly romantic about boy love stories.

Another thing that annoys me about fujos is aside from their over the top reactions to seeing yaoi art, is their constant reminder of a canon gay character being gay when hes not doing anything gay. Example, I saw a twitter post on Craig from South Park and how in the earlier seasons he was a bully who lead the boys group to tie Mark Cotswolds to a flag pole and literally the top 3 comments I saw were basically "He's so gay", "That's my gay boy", "Craig is so gay" and its like bro, are these people so insecure that in scenes where Craig is doing nothing you have to remind yourselves this? It reminds me of the people who were freaking out over the South Park Fortnite trailer and saw Craig on the bus not sitting with Tweek.

 

[AI generated waifu]

Being aggressive towards fujos won't make them like your smelly nigger pussy more

I don't think black lesbos want to fuck fujos, they probably don't like white male characters being "the center of every fandom" and the nonwhite female characters "getting ignored" in their words.

I don't know, I can sympathise with both groups but I also think they're both too online and kind of annoying lol. Nobody wants to feel shamed for their hobby, even if their hobby is drawing hot anime guys making out. Nobody wants to feel excluded from a space, even if that space is nerdy loser women writing essays on children's cartoons.

Maybe that's why I'm getting over this topic. All the things separating every group involved is just tribalism and which sexual fantasies they have.

 

[Chandelier]

A fujo made a viral post on how het ships are sooooooo boring while trying out Ebonics. Here is her AO3.

Spoiler: Icky hetslop

Here's Scarlet's profile.


Ironic as fuck coming from a JayVik. They'll write essays on how Jayce never loved Mel.

She then proceeds to call someone a pedo over the Jay Chou skinline:

While just a week prior, Jayviks refused to condemn a Gypsy pedophile who wrote a very popular fic where a 15 year old white teen cucks two black women.

"They don't have any misogyny that's why they're better" while designating the one they view as "dainty and feminine" the bottom.

Profile reveals a Byler and BTS stan.



Bridgerton just had an entire interracial lesbian subplot but this fujo doesn't give a shit.


Curious, I decided to take a look at OP's profile. Surely if get ships are sooooo boring they don't try to copycat it for their yaoi, right?

Yes, I can tell you're on SSRIs. It's expected.

- claims to hate hetslop
- implements said hetslop dynamics by consistently making the character they view as feminine the pregnant one
Maybe it hasn't occurred to you, lass, but those are heterosexual dynamics. Penis in vagina sex for the purpose of reproduction isn't homosexual.

While previously condemning Jay Chou for pedophilia, she's friends with Karina Mashkova, who's drawn art for a pedophile, prettybadmagic.

"It's not pedophilia or hetslop when I do it."

Some people have noticed this recurring trend.


This has been rated TRUE by REAL AMERICAN PATRIOTS

This person got jumped for daring to ask why people make the "weak and dainty" pale male the pregnant one, and how they could carry a pregnancy with their disability. I can also confirm it comes off as fetishism...one might say it's incredibly heterosexual.

Yes, he said adopted children. Jayviks went with "natural children" instead.

You do have to have, though. They're noooticing how fellow pooners are acting weird regarding these dynamics and getting hate for it. Shots are coming from inside the house.

But Jay Chou is the pedophile, yo.

Finally, the Kweens noticed the misuse of Ebonics.



Fact check: true

AO3 is currently down otherwise I'd post their account for posting eerily hetsloppy dynamics despite saying it's trash.

Edit: this author lives in a war-torn country. If I had to guess, she's Lebanese, given the Internet connection. She still ain't black and can't use that AAVE in addition, she condemns Jay Chou, yet has an author who writes pedophilia in her replies.

Spoiler: Rude anon

SensualLettuce, who wrote a fic where a 16-year-old seduces their 30-something teacher (it's okay because hot) shows up. What's that about condemning pedophiles?


Here's SensualLettuce's AO3. I've noticed the OP doesn't think this is hetslop:



Penis in vagina sex? Pregnancy? Babies? That's incredibly hetsloppy.

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Earlier, I posted Tumblr's top ships of the year. This was one reaction to it.

Spoiler: Attack of the Bylers

Women in love with a hook nosed Jew immediately complained. Very Talmudic.

"If you want to see your ship just write more" - And their profiles are just filled with basic bitch men.


LMAO


"It's not yaoislop it's my entire life!"

These people filmed Tiktoks of them sobbing when this ship never became canon. Literal mascara streak tears.

Example, I saw a twitter post on Craig from South Park and how in the earlier seasons he was a bully who lead the boys group to tie Mark Cotswolds to a flag pole and literally the top 3 comments I saw were basically "He's so gay", "That's my gay boy", "Craig is so gay" and its like bro, are tese people so insecure that in scenes where Craig is doing nothing you have to remind yourselves this?

Fujos claim to hate gender roles because it reminds them of societal misogyny, yet will turn around and assume who is gay or not because of how they look. Related:

Trans coded: this disabled white male is clearly like me so I'll give him a pussy and have him give birth to 4 pale babies because he's dainty and feminine. Trust me, it's so masc.

On the flip side:

They actually removed his muscles with the update. He was 280 lbs with that armour. You have to be buff to carry it around.

Also also related: uni friend who loved yaoi did this:

Many such cases.

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Edit: this user has posted the top 100 tops and bottoms.

While most are white/East Asian, the few that involve darker skinned men are universally (over 60%) seen as the top.

 

[SpinelessArtist]

I don't think black lesbos want to fuck fujos, they probably don't like white male characters being "the center of every fandom" and the nonwhite female characters "getting ignored" in their words.

I don't know, I can sympathise with both groups but I also think they're both too online and kind of annoying lol. Nobody wants to feel shamed for their hobby, even if their hobby is drawing hot anime guys making out. Nobody wants to feel excluded from a space, even if that space is nerdy loser women writing essays on children's cartoons.

Maybe that's why I'm getting over this topic. All the things separating every group involved is just tribalism and which sexual fantasies they have.

Lmao you're probably right. They just take this shit way too seriously for what it is. I just find the moralizing very annoying and think white fujos should defend themselves once in a while. The milk coming from black yurifags would be plentiful.

 

[Paper Machete]

I don't think black lesbos want to fuck fujos, they probably don't like white male characters being "the center of every fandom" and the nonwhite female characters "getting ignored" in their words.

I don't know, I can sympathise with both groups but I also think they're both too online and kind of annoying lol. Nobody wants to feel shamed for their hobby, even if their hobby is drawing hot anime guys making out. Nobody wants to feel excluded from a space, even if that space is nerdy loser women writing essays on children's cartoons.

Maybe that's why I'm getting over this topic. All the things separating every group involved is just tribalism and which sexual fantasies they have.

None of this would be an issue if they didn't let bullshit, made up identity politics a part of how they mess around with drawing/writing fan stuff.

Ao3 has some vile stuff posted on there but it's pretty much impossible to get anything taken down as it goes against why it exists. I've only ever heard of things being deleted voluntarily. Therefor everyone can post what they want and read what they want and filter out the rest. You can even moderate or close comments so naysayers don't bother you. Trying to make it a social media thing on top of a fanfic thing has done a lot of damage and the girlies have never recovered.