Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

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This could be Nolan's Heavens Gate. Great director wins an oscar and his next film gets too ambitious and it flops.

Shit man, this would be equivalent to Colopla's Megalopolis. Like I adore the IMAX format but still.
To be fair Nolan and his Odyssey aren't playing the same games as Heaven's Gate to Megopolis were. Cimano on the back of The Deerhunter was given far too much control and went batshit crazy. It was a really badly controlled project. Megopolis was an art film (i.e. no audience) at a commercial film cost. There's a reason Coppola had to fund it himself. Nolan's Odyssey has none of these issues so far as we know. Nolan is still very much the darling of both Hollywood and, to an extent, audiences whilst Cimano was the one hit wunderkind and although Coppola has some great films in the back catalogue his last positively notable one was probably 97's The Rainmaker and even that didn't storm the box office.

I'm genuinely fascinated to watch how Nolan's Odyssey performs as the box office. His fanbase are loud and cultish but I wonder how many of them there actually are and how much they impact the general audience. Only two Nolan films have cracked $1Bn gross box office globally (the two Dark Knights and then only just). Oppenheimer came close but that became an event riding the tails of the far more successful Barbie (stop the World, I want to get off). Inception (when the Nolan cult was at it's most cultish) did $828m and then it drops to $678m for Intersteller. Tenet flopped. You can blame that on the scamdemic but maybe that had more to do with people not being able to understand the dialogue and those that could, realising it was nonsense.

Much has been made of IMAX advance booking selling out a year in advance but that's the cult being the cult in response to a PR stunt. I would expect a big opening but the word of mouth and fall off will make or break this. We've been told the production budget is $250m and it's clear it's getting the max marketing treatment. I don't believe that it will end up costing $250m to produce. Tenet had a $200m to $265m budget depending who you believe. Intersteller's was $165m to $212m in 2014. Inception's was $160m to $223m in 2010. Given the cast (miscast but still expensive cast), extensive locations work and what will be a huge reliance on effects with emphasis on practical effects, I don't buy a $250m production cost but we'll never get the truth.

It could end up as commercial juggernaut but it's more likely to (merely) do OK but be an absolute critics and awards darling.
 
The more I hear about this, the more it sounds like a trash fire DEI project forced on Nolan
 
If only Mel Gibson was the director instead. Everyone would speak Greek, half the actors would be from some Greek soap opera so they look the part, Michael Chiklis would be the cyclops, Ajax would be Hugh Jackman roided up one last time, Theo James would be Odysseus, and Ellen Page would be Tiresias.
 
I don't buy a $250m production cost but we'll never get the truth.
It may be true AFTER tax credits.

Even if you take what they say as true. 500 million when marketing is included. 1 billion break even. I dont know of any kids who give a fuck about this movie. Its really hard to crack a billion without the family audience. Barbie had moms take their families. Dark Knight had family audiences.
 
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This picture defines the movie. Nolan and some other white guy (AD or bond company stooge I guess), in a sea of niggers. I assume because he's filming in Europe or something.

Nigger "Helen" is confirmed. Also will be narrated by some other 2-dollar nigger soundcloud rapper.

This is basically Hamilton but with Matt Damon in the Hamilton role.
 
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Have you ever heard of movie extras or do you think these people are just randomly standing there?

Do you think they look Mediterranean? But mostly I was going by the clothing and accessories. The couple rows on the left are wearing tunics and shit, but everyone past them is in modern gear.

I could buy this as Scipio's conquest of Carthage (maybe), but not the fucking Odyssey.
 
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This picture defines the movie. Nolan and some other white guy (AD or bond company stooge I guess), in a sea of niggers. I assume because he's filming in Europe or something.

Nigger "Helen" is confirmed. Also will be narrated by some other 2-dollar nigger soundcloud rapper.

This is basically Hamilton but with Matt Damon in the Hamilton role.
I thought the boom mic was some Nigger with a massive afro, wouldn't have surprised me.

It's all American Niggers and Arabs that are from the wrong fucking side of the Jordan river. Even having Jews would have been more historically correct than whatever the fuck that is.
 

Nolan's goofy post-human shit is going to come out and a 30-year-old Hallmark tv movie will still blow it out of the water. (Not unlike how the Sci-Fi Channel Dunes are better than the Villanoob crap.)
 
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This movie unironically might be the beginning of the end for Nolan's career, ngl...

Tenet flopped. You can blame that on the scamdemic but maybe that had more to do with people not being able to understand the dialogue and those that could, realising it was nonsense.

So pretty much Interstellar too?

Yeah, neg rate me, niggers, that movie is fucking nonsense. Do your worst.
 
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Yeah, neg rate me, niggers, that movie is fucking nonsense. Do your worst.
Interstellar was a boring slog, and to this day I don't get why people are praising it so much.

It had, maybe, one or two interesting scenes, the rest being a chore to sit through. The excuse that people are just too dumb to get it doesn't work when the Martian and Project Hail Mary prove you can both have a (somewhat) realistic sci-fi movie and an engaging plot.

Nolan was already getting high on his own farts by the time the third Batman movie came along. That movie was also full of characters behaving illogically, plot contrivances, genuinely stupid moments (the scene with the cops charging), to the point it's obvious Ledger carried the Dark Knight hard.
 
Yeah, neg rate me, niggers, that movie is fucking nonsense.
Every Nolan movie has been nonsense, conveyed through incomprehensible dialogue and nonexistant lighting.

I genuinely believe that's the appeal: trick cattle into thinking your movie is "deep" because they didn't understand it when really you just made it a pain in the ass to understand every step of the way.

After this he's going to do a film adaptation of the Allegory of the Cave and it's just going to be two hours of shadow puppets by firelight and dialogue reverberating into standing waves.

This one looks so bad that it might accidentally cross over into self-parody though. Reductio ad absurdum of the state of hollywood. It will sweep the oscars and the box office numbers will be 100% legitimate for sure.
 
I genuinely believe that's the appeal: trick cattle into thinking your movie is "deep" because they didn't understand it when really you just made it a pain in the ass to understand every step of the way.
The sad part is that both the Martian and Project Hail Mary prove you can have a "hard" sci-fi plot, and still turn it into a compelling narrative people can understand and emotionally connect with.

Interstellar was just bunch of nonsensical scenes strung together by an incoherent plot. Other than the robot scene on the water planet, I don't remember a single other plot point, beyond the stupid ending.

Hell, even the Dark Knight Rises was a bunch of gibberish. People back then attributed the weak writing to the fact Ledger had died and derailed all the writing plans, but nowadays I'm not too sure of that. It seems that was the point where Nolan was let off the proverbial leash and allowed much more creative control, which in turn resulted in turds like Interstellar and Tenet.

This one looks so bad that it might accidentally cross over into self-parody though. Reductio ad absurdum of the state of hollywood. It will sweep the oscars and the box office numbers will be 100% legitimate for sure.
I pray to God the nigger doing the narration starts rapping the plot of the movie. The end credits song also need to be nigger mumble rap.

I imagine the only reason Odysseus is not played by a nigger is that "absent father and husband that went out to buy milk for 20 years" would be hitting too close to home.

The only question about the Odyssey is not if it's going to be bad, but how bad it's going to get.
 
Even if Ellen doesn't play Achilles (it's just a rumor atm) she is playing a man in a movie about greek mythology which means the audience expects humans and gods to look a certain way.

Even making her masculine with CG doesn't work because everyone knows who she is. Ellen's feminine face on a masculine body will also result in ridicule. The audience can see trough the gaslighting.

This is never going to work. Only wokists with minds poisoned by trans ideology think it does because they lost all common sense.
 
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Nolan's goofy post-human shit is going to come out and a 30-year-old Hallmark tv movie will still blow it out of the water.
The Odyssey miniseries is legitimately the best adaptation of the Odyssey ("Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" being the second best) we've gotten.

Hell, even Xena: Warrior Princess did the Iliad and the Odyssey better than this Nolan film is shaping up to be, and Xena's Helen of Troy was a black chick, too. They even remembered to make Ulysses look like Bruce Campbell's Autolycus, as Ulysses/Odysseus is Autolycus' grandson in Greek mythology.

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And Xena's cyclops didn't have Ellen Page's old cunt on its forehead.

(Not unlike how the Sci-Fi Channel Dunes are better than the Villanoob crap.)
The Dune miniseries have better soundtracks, too.
 
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