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[StacticShock]

I like reading the wikia for it, though

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Humanoid

Humanoid (ヒューマノイド, Hyūmanoido) is a term from the Mega Man ZX series that refers to humans with mechanical parts. Humanoids can be considered similar to "cyborgs" in the Mega Man franchise. To create equality between humans and Reploids, Legion created a law that humans must have mechanical...

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To create equality between humans and Reploids, Legion created a law that humans must have mechanical parts, and Reploids have lifespans.

i'm out of keks for that.

 

[Super Guido]

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Humanoid

Humanoid (ヒューマノイド, Hyūmanoido) is a term from the Mega Man ZX series that refers to humans with mechanical parts. Humanoids can be considered similar to "cyborgs" in the Mega Man franchise. To create equality between humans and Reploids, Legion created a law that humans must have mechanical...

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i'm out of keks for that.

Yeah, I remember reading that. Also the red triangles on the foreheads, which was mentioned in this thread. Pretty uh, bad design choice if you care about being PC.

 

[X Prime]

What, you didn't quote this?

The navy portions of Vent's and Aile's bodies that look like tights actually are the surface of their mechanical bodies. The mechanical surface from Humanoids can be any color, with some choosing a skin-colored surface for fashion reasons, while others actually kept portions of real skin.

Yes, this means that the black parts on 14-year-old Aile's body in ZX, including her mostly-exposed breasts in some forms, is her skin.

They either did not think this through, or did it on purpose. I am inclined to think the latter. Remember that these are the guys who made GalGun.

 

[GigantorUnitron]

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Humanoid

Humanoid (ヒューマノイド, Hyūmanoido) is a term from the Mega Man ZX series that refers to humans with mechanical parts. Humanoids can be considered similar to "cyborgs" in the Mega Man franchise. To create equality between humans and Reploids, Legion created a law that humans must have mechanical...

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i'm out of keks for that.

Quite frankly given the history of that world, I'm shocked that wasn't forced upon the world way before the zx series. would make a lot more sense than what happened with the reploids in X8

 

[StacticShock]

What, you didn't quote this?

that was the reason i didn't quote. i prefer to omit it out of my mind, humanoids were the basis for carbons though as they get a reploid-ish body after reaching a certain age.
also there's ashe...

Humans who have reached a certain age are given the same mechanical body as Reploids, and can replace part or all of their bodies with machines, with the original body parts being stored at a national facility.

Carbon

Carbon, known as Decoy (デコイ, Dekoi) in Japan, is how the System refers to the artificially created humans that live on Terra (Earth). They were also referred to as Betas (Decoys in Japan) by the Master of Elysium. Carbons are essentially "artificial humans" created with their own language and...

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[Super Guido]

Quite frankly given the history of that world, I'm shocked that wasn't forced upon the world way before the zx series. would make a lot more sense than what happened with the reploids in X8

X8 was already a mess to begin with. How on earth does a Reploid just "go Maverick at will"? Is it like having free will, or just standard shitty writing?

that was the reason i didn't quote. i prefer to omit it out of my mind, humanoids were the basis for carbons though as they get a reploid-ish body after reaching a certain age.

Carbon

Carbon, known as Decoy (デコイ, Dekoi) in Japan, is how the System refers to the artificially created humans that live on Terra (Earth). They were also referred to as Betas (Decoys in Japan) by the Master of Elysium. Carbons are essentially "artificial humans" created with their own language and...

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Jesus Christ that's fucking horrifying. A warehouse full of stored body parts sounds like something that belongs in a cyberpunk/horror rather than a Shounen-esque Mega Man spinoff or sequel.

 

[Viscious Seviper]

that was the reason i didn't quote. i prefer to omit it out of my mind, humanoids were the basis for carbons though as they get a reploid-ish body after reaching a certain age.

Carbon

Carbon, known as Decoy (デコイ, Dekoi) in Japan, is how the System refers to the artificially created humans that live on Terra (Earth). They were also referred to as Betas (Decoys in Japan) by the Master of Elysium. Carbons are essentially "artificial humans" created with their own language and...

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>carbons are fully organic
>but they can augment themselves with cybernetics (like adam jensen)
>Theyre actually complete robots

Not even the wiki contributor could comprehend what they read and what they wrote here.

Quite frankly given the history of that world, I'm shocked that wasn't forced upon the world way before the zx series. would make a lot more sense than what happened with the reploids in X8

This sounds more like a good motivation for reploids to go maverick. No bodily autonomy for anyone.

Probably an unintended result of whatever they were smoking.

 

[X Prime]

X8 was already a mess to begin with. How on earth does a Reploid just "go Maverick at will"? Is it like having free will, or just standard shitty writing?

Capcom couldn't decide if Reploids had free will or not.

X was supposed to, then Inti screwed that up by claiming his Suffering Circuit forced him to be unbiased between humans and Reploids, the latter of which didn't even exist yet.

Iris and Colonel were supposed to be one Reploid, the Ideal Reploid with complete free will.

And so on.

It's both free will nonsense and shitty writing.

 

[Super Guido]

Capcom couldn't decide if Reploids had free will or not.

X was supposed to, then Inti screwed that up by claiming his Suffering Circuit forced him to be unbiased between humans and Reploids, the latter of which didn't even exist yet.

Iris and Colonel were supposed to be one Reploid, the Ideal Reploid with complete free will.

And so on.

It's both free will nonsense and shitty writing.

That's a shame. If the MHX series was continued, maybe they could have fixed some things. X isn't even a Reploid because Reploids are replicas, or at least based off, of X. Fuckers don't know the series lore.

I remember that about Iris and Colonel. X Dive has a "perfected Iris" or whatever, but X Dive a shit.

 

[X Prime]

Well, my question to you is, would you have trusted Inafune to not try for another round at having Zero kill X?

I wouldn't.

 

[Super Guido]

Well, my question to you is, would you have trusted Inafune to not try for another round at having Zero kill X?

I wouldn't.

I admit that I kind of like Zero, but Inafundme seems like he couldn't contain his excitement for his OC. His OG design for Zero and X were atrocious. So helmetless and weirdly bald-looking.

 

[StacticShock]

X8 was already a mess to begin with. How on earth does a Reploid just "go Maverick at will"? Is it like having free will, or just standard shitty writing?

standard shitty writing, on MMX5 inafune went for the closure so he could make X a maverick so Zero could come in and save ze day, then X6 happened, sparing us from that retarded decision from that fucking faggot.

It should be noted that series creator Keiji Inafune originally intended for this to be the last title in the Mega Man X series, with Zero dying and resurrecting later in the Mega Man Zero series, but Capcom later decided to green-light Mega Man X6 without his knowledge, changing his plans.

X was supposed to, then Inti screwed that up by claiming his Suffering Circuit forced him to be unbiased between humans and Reploids, the latter of which didn't even exist yet.

Suffering Circuit isn't something people know, not even the wikia knows about this shitty excuse or they simply don't eat that shit.

X

"That's right... It's begun again... How long must this war go on?" —X, Mega Man X8 X (エックス, Ekkusu), also known as Mega Man X, or Rockman X (ロックマンエックス / ロックマンX, Rokkuman Ekkusu) in Japan, is the eponymous protagonist of the Mega Man X series. X is the successor to the original Mega Man and is...

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For the unprecedented suffering Weil and Omega caused, Weil was modified into a cyborg and banished to the wasteland, while Omega was exiled into Earth's orbit.

 

[Viscious Seviper]

Well, my question to you is, would you have trusted Inafune to not try for another round at having Zero kill X?

I wouldn't.

somehow that would still be better than a nu-megaman introducing a Y named character to make it a XYZ trio. What is it with Inafune and wanting to teamkill X?

What did happen to Dr light and wily? Dont know if either of them officially died.

 

[X Prime]

Suffering Circuit isn't something people know, not even the wikia knows about this shitty excuse or they simply don't eat that shit.

Yeah, it's in some weird limbo. I'm not sure where the term even came from at this point since it's all lost to the mists of time.

It is obliquely mentioned in MMZ Complete Works as just a circuit in X's head.

I don't know why they claimed Inafune is the series creator. He didn't even make X.

 

[Super Guido]

Yeah, it's in some weird limbo. I'm not sure where the term even came from at this point since it's all lost to the mists of time.

It is obliquely mentioned in MMZ Complete Works as just a circuit in X's head.

I don't know why they claimed Inafune is the series creator. He didn't even make X.

He claimed to be the creator of Mega Man too, even though it was Akira Kitamura. I don't think Kitamura gives a shit about MM anymore, but it's a little dishonest of Inafune to say he created it when he just did his character design.

 

[X Prime]

He claimed to be the creator of Mega Man too, even though it was Akira Kitamura. I don't think Kitamura gives a shit about MM anymore, but it's a little dishonest of Inafune to say he created it when he just did his character design.

Inafune didn't even do MM's character design. That was also Kitamura, who did the original sprite and Inafune drew him off that.

As for X, I should mention the story for that is even more convoluted. There's two or three different stories. The only thing the stories have in common is that a man named Hayato Kaji did X, and Inafune did Zero. Someone shifts blame on who decided X and not Zero would be the main character and how it happened in each story.

 

[Super Guido]

Inafune didn't even do MM's character design. That was also Kitamura, who did the original sprite and Inafune drew him off that.

As for X, I should mention the story for that is even more convoluted. There's two or three different stories. The only thing the stories have in common is that a man named Hayato Kaji did X, and Inafune did Zero. Someone shifts blame on who decided X and not Zero would be the main character and how it happened in each story.

I apologise - I meant the artwork for Mega Man. Dude's a liar, either way.

That's a new one to me, but not surprising. Knowing that, it's no wonder his designs in MN9 turned out the way they did; I don't think he's actually over Capcom.

 

[StacticShock]

I don't know why they claimed Inafune is the series creator. He didn't even make X.

and that's where we go back a few pages, they're inafune's dickriders or they fell for the misinfo ina gave.

He claimed to be the creator of Mega Man too, even though it was Akira Kitamura. I don't think Kitamura gives a shit about MM anymore, but it's a little dishonest of Inafune to say he created it when he just did his character design.

he did create zero though, the most awesome reploid to be made by dr.wily because if wily could create bass using megaman as a base then he certainly could guess that light would make X and make Zero using X as a basis...

 

[Super Guido]

and that's where we go back a few pages, they're inafune's dickriders or they fell for the misinfo ina gave.

he did create zero though, the most awesome reploid to be made by dr.wily because if wily could create bass using megaman as a base then he certainly could guess that light would make X and make Zero using X as a basis...

A lot of dickriders gave up on him after the MN9 thing. I was never a huge fan of his, but I definitely lost a lot of respect for him for how badly managed the whole thing was.

Speaking of which, what happened to Red Ash?

 

[X Prime]

What did happen to Dr light and wily? Dont know if either of them officially died.

IntiCreates didn't give enough of a damn to say.

There's all sorts of stories as to why this is.

One of them is that Weil was never supposed to be a thing and it was supposed to be Wily as Zero's final antagonist. However, the X6-induced rewrites forced them to scrap this somehow. Even though they were never sure they'd get more than one game anyway.

The second story is the one told by IntiCreates' Aizu in that MMZ was not supposed to be an MM game to begin with. This contradicts a different story where he appears to say he approached Inafune to make an MM game.

Regardless, if we go with the second story, the idea there is that they never wanted to tell an MM story, and that's why their characters are made world-shatteringly important to overall world lore and the original ones are all never mentioned except X and Zero.