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As for X, I should mention the story for that is even more convoluted. There's two or three different stories. The only thing the stories have in common is that a man named Hayato Kaji did X, and Inafune did Zero. Someone shifts blame on who decided X and not Zero would be the main character and how it happened in each story.
it's easier to judge from capcom's pov. X was the main character because of the play on mathematics about X being a unknown number while zero is fucking nothing, professor F did good by designing the game around him.
that's why their characters are made world-shatteringly important to overall world lore and the original ones are all never mentioned except X and Zero.
you mean they are OCDonutSteel? huh...
serges being a nod to a robot with wily's soul on X2 is kind of a secret as only the japanese version kept the text where he nags at X but sigma finds out about wily creating zero though, alas it was tainted by inafune's focus on protecting his pet, isoc being a nod on X6 was kind of funny considering it was made without ina's knowledge and then there's master albert that inticrates made some things to be a nod to wily.
 
IntiCreates didn't give enough of a damn to say.

There's all sorts of stories as to why this is.

One of them is that Weil was never supposed to be a thing and it was supposed to be Wily as Zero's final antagonist. However, the X6-induced rewrites forced them to scrap this somehow. Even though they were never sure they'd get more than one game anyway.

The second story is the one told by IntiCreates' Aizu in that MMZ was not supposed to be an MM game to begin with. This contradicts a different story where he appears to say he approached Inafune to make an MM game.

Regardless, if we go with the second story, the idea there is that they never wanted to tell an MM story, and that's why their characters are made world-shatteringly important to overall world lore and the original ones are all never mentioned except X and Zero.
The first Zero game was supposed to be a one off right? just like it's inspiration Hakkaider?

Also is it just me, or can anyone tell when the Zero artist got paid for his work? I don't mean in monetization, I mean in that when they paid him to give a damn about what he's drawing, because a lot of it fluctuated in quality.
 
The first Zero game was supposed to be a one off right? just like it's inspiration Hakkaider?
Some of the principal sources around MMX and MMZ change their stories significantly between each telling.

In other words, we don't really know.
 
I still remember Juno in legends. Super confused finding out it was a guy and even voiced by a guy because the guy had the most feminine creepy voice

Fuck....the organ playing was creepy too.

BTW I wish we got uncut Battle Network anime. I remember watching it once. Good times
 
You guys certainly were busy with a back and forth. All I can say is even though I played all of X except 7 and 8 and all of zero that I never paid enough attention to it. Because jeeesuus is it all the bog standard "so deepu animuuu". The ZX lore is absolutely horrifying and could be the premise for a very fucked up story, yet in reality it was treated as a solution worthy of a 5 year old (hot take, you scrap the fucking reploids because they are fucking tools and be done with it, the moment somebody fucked one of those walking toasters, that was the only solution).

Also, is Taicom another nicknake for capcom or what is it?

I admit that I kind of like Zero, but Inafundme seems like he couldn't contain his excitement for his OC. His OG design for Zero and X were atrocious. So helmetless and weirdly bald-looking.
I like zero (fun little tidbit, I thought Zero was a chick in X1), I loved playing with him in the later X entries. I don't like Ina's obsession with him eating X like some sort of blood ritual of completion, they work well as complements from a gameplay standpoint. I'm just saddened that so much faggotry permeates a character I like. Also, what designs?
I don't know why they claimed Inafune is the series creator. He didn't even make X.
Man with very small pp that likes his face in books wants attention, translates "I made a drawing based on sprites" to "I'm totes the creator of Mega Man, all that shit you loved in 2-3? Aaaall me, nobody else". Nobody is willing to correct the record and suddenly it's gospel.
A lot of dickriders gave up on him after the MN9 thing. I was never a huge fan of his, but I definitely lost a lot of respect for him for how badly managed the whole thing was.

Speaking of which, what happened to Red Ash?
I thought Inafune was the shits when MN9 was in the kickstart phase. Then I learned how him being the father of MegaMan was vastly exagerated amd how he ruined Capcom for half a decade "reaching out to the west". And it was made clear to me that he was involved with something I liked a lot, but was far from the key element that made it work. I swear if Inticreates could get rid of Inafune and any of the other faggot story writters, they would improve leaps and bounds.
An anime movie of it actually got released out of nowhere a month or two ago, was viewable for free. Google should help find it.

Supposedly it was mediocre to bad.
Holy shit, something actually came out of it! I can imagine Inafune seeeething at how people didn't understand his brilliance.
 
Remember the initial 3DS release of Gunvolt 1 where they replaced an entire mission briefing with an explanation of the stage boss' neopronouns and then "xey" get murdered by an anti-reploid edgelord before you can even fight xem? God that was fucking hilarious.

I was disappointed there wasn't more dumb shit like that. It's also the least awkwardly written part. The rest is borderline ESL shit. Everything they tried to translate read like it was sped through and summarized but for the made up part they suddenly knew how to write a coherent sentence.

The later releases use a better translation but the base story wasn't any good to begin with. I want Yoshinori Kawano back. Zero, Legends and Dead Rising 1/2 weren't Shakespeare, but at least I cared about what was happening. I guess the final battle in Gunvolt 2 was sort of emotional, but that's about it.
Tell me you're fucking joking
 
i thought Inafune was the shits when MN9 was in the kickstart phase. Then I learned how him being the father of MegaMan was vastly exagerated amd how he ruined Capcom for half a decade "reaching out to the west". And it was made clear to me that he was involved with something I liked a lot, but was far from the key element that made it work. I swear if Inticreates could get rid of Inafune and any of the other faggot story writters, they would improve leaps and bounds.

All I remember about MN9 was that it was buried under all the gaymergate spam as the boogeyman witchhunt of the day.
Its not like he took the money and ran right? It wasnt vaporware like starr mazer. There was an actual finished game.

Inticreates has more problems than just writers. Gal gun exists.

I think im in the minority of fans that prefer ZX’s artstyle but dont dislike the other ones. Gunvolt is more of the same style and an evolution from that but the gameplay sucks.
 
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I swear if Inticreates could get rid of Inafune and any of the other faggot story writters, they would improve leaps and bounds.
read the previous pages nigga, IntiCreates IS the problem mixed with inafune's retarded obsession with zero and making him take the spotlight of a franchise called megaman, MMZ only exists because inafune wanted to end shit on MM5 but capcom greenlit MM6, fucking with the plans he had to make zero kill X, so he changed it to Copy X, it's literally the end of the first MMZ.
 
All I remember about MN9 was that it was buried under all the gaymergate spam as the boogeyman witchhunt of the day.
Its not like he took the money and ran right? It wasnt vaporware like starr mazer. There was an actual finished game.

Inticreates has more problems than just writers. Gal gun exists.

I think im in the minority of fans that prefer ZX’s artstyle but dont dislike the other ones. Gunvolt is more of the same style and an evolution from that but the gameplay sucks.
Leaving aside the copious amounts of faggotry surrounding MN9, the killer is that it was derivative and soulless. Incredibly ugly, too much fucking talking (though it was at least mostly light hearted) and it's core mechanic of finishing off enemies by dashing through felt like ass. And the other controllable characters... Call was purely jammed in there for "female protagonist" and her single level was a horrible slog and "not Zero edgy lady" was basically a forced speedrun mode since her health drained constantly, extra fun during bosses and their "can't touch me" moves.

read the previous pages nigga, IntiCreates IS the problem mixed with inafune's retarded obsession with zero and making him take the spotlight of a franchise called megaman, MMZ only exists because inafune wanted to end shit on MM5 but capcom greenlit MM6, fucking with the plans he had to make zero kill X, so he changed it to Copy X, it's literally the end of the first MMZ.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dCqVuDr1Xqc
Thing is, I like how the Zero games play and though I activelly hate the gameplay loop of Gunvolt of mark and zap, it is a competently made game. It's why I can't fully put the blame on Inti as a whole since they have some competent designers in there.
 
You guys certainly were busy with a back and forth. All I can say is even though I played all of X except 7 and 8 and all of zero that I never paid enough attention to it. Because jeeesuus is it all the bog standard "so deepu animuuu". The ZX lore is absolutely horrifying and could be the premise for a very fucked up story, yet in reality it was treated as a solution worthy of a 5 year old (hot take, you scrap the fucking reploids because they are fucking tools and be done with it, the moment somebody fucked one of those walking toasters, that was the only solution).

Also, is Taicom another nicknake for capcom or what is it?


I like zero (fun little tidbit, I thought Zero was a chick in X1), I loved playing with him in the later X entries. I don't like Ina's obsession with him eating X like some sort of blood ritual of completion, they work well as complements from a gameplay standpoint. I'm just saddened that so much faggotry permeates a character I like. Also, what designs?

Man with very small pp that likes his face in books wants attention, translates "I made a drawing based on sprites" to "I'm totes the creator of Mega Man, all that shit you loved in 2-3? Aaaall me, nobody else". Nobody is willing to correct the record and suddenly it's gospel.

I thought Inafune was the shits when MN9 was in the kickstart phase. Then I learned how him being the father of MegaMan was vastly exagerated amd how he ruined Capcom for half a decade "reaching out to the west". And it was made clear to me that he was involved with something I liked a lot, but was far from the key element that made it work. I swear if Inticreates could get rid of Inafune and any of the other faggot story writters, they would improve leaps and bounds.

Holy shit, something actually came out of it! I can imagine Inafune seeeething at how people didn't understand his brilliance.
Okay I admit it: I lied. I did believe Inafune when he said all that shit about himself. I didn't really follow all the stuff about Capcom screwing him over, but I did believe he was "the father of Mega Man" and all that jazz. I'll never get those 60 bucks back.

A lot of people thought he was a chick. It's an understandable mistake.

The design I thought was his original was apparently for a Mega Armor figure. It's on the wikia.
 
Okay I admit it: I lied. I did believe Inafune when he said all that shit about himself. I didn't really follow all the stuff about Capcom screwing him over, but I did believe he was "the father of Mega Man" and all that jazz. I'll never get those 60 bucks back.

A lot of people thought he was a chick. It's an understandable mistake.

The design I thought was his original was apparently for a Mega Armor figure. It's on the wikia.

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Jesus Christ, Denton.

They probably thought he was a chick because its only a part of Japanese/Chinese power fantasies to have extremely long hair to emphasize how OP they are. Not that any Anime or Manga ever even tries to clarify this cultural difference.
 
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Jesus Christ, Denton.

They probably thought he was a chick because its only a part of Japanese/Chinese power fantasies to have extremely long hair to emphasize how OP they are. Not that any Anime or Manga ever even tries to clarify this cultural difference.
Good lord, that's brutal. If you told me it was hate art for X, I might believe you. Or is Zero just cutting one of the mooks that look like a faceless X?
 
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Good lord, that's brutal. If you told me it was hate art for X, I might believe you. Or it Zero just cutting one of the mooks that look like a faceless X?
Its early MMZ concept art of Zero slashing one of the faceless X clones according to the wiki page you linked. But to any newcomer you could really tell how much Inafune wanted Zero to kill X.

I wonder if the character reference sheets for the entire cast of ZX will ever be shared. There was only really a few of the main cast and some of them were just earlier versions. Its not like ZX will ever get a new entry any time soon. Isn't it trapped in legal hell or something between capcom/inti?
 
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Good lord, that's brutal. If you told me it was hate art for X, I might believe you. Or is Zero just cutting one of the mooks that look like a faceless X?
it's pantheons
I wonder if the character reference sheets for the entire cast of ZX will ever be shared. There was only really a few of the main cast and some of them were just earlier versions. Its not like ZX will ever get a new entry any time soon. Isn't it trapped in legal hell or something between capcom/inti?
you mean like ZX's official artworks or something? it's still new so to say also it was recently leaked that ZXC was supposed to be the third installation but got cancelled.
 
it's pantheons
Right. I couldn't remember the name.
 
Jesus Christ, Denton.
there's another artwork too.
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you know what's funny? on MMZ2 inafune got rid of X's body without using zero.
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then on MMZ3 he got rid of X's soul to make him pass the torch to zero, the wikia text about this is funny.
X's page said:
Cyber-Elf X persisted until the end of Mega Man Zero 3, where he used up the last of his power helping Zero and finally dissipated, entrusting the world to his friend's hands as he had done with X years ago.
 
it's pantheons

you mean like ZX's official artworks or something? it's still new so to say also it was recently leaked that ZXC was supposed to be the third installation but got cancelled.
Yes. Modeling the antagonists from that series has been a learning experience. Though most of the details can be eyeballed and the only stuff released was prototype concept art.
 
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there's another artwork too.
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you know what's funny? on MMZ2 inafune got rid of X's body without using zero.
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then on MMZ3 he got rid of X's soul to make him pass the torch to zero, the wikia text about this is funny.
It's funny to me that, in order to finally kill off X, he had to make a character who was actually one of the biggest faggots of the franchise.

Maybe not THE biggest faggot, but Elpizo is certainly up there.
 
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