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It was a fun, dumb superhero movie. Looking at it for deep meaning is retarded. Just enjoy the spectacle.

If you must hold your nose while loudly proclaiming your disdain for “the capeshit,” there’s plenty of other movies to watch.
 
It was a fun, dumb superhero movie. Looking at it for deep meaning is retarded. Just enjoy the spectacle.

If you must hold your nose while loudly proclaiming your disdain for “the capeshit,” there’s plenty of other movies to watch.
What if I'd want a Thor movie and not a campy parody like the MCU is to Marvel in general? Not that I'd expect one at this point considering that ship has long since sailed.
 
What if I'd want a Thor movie and not a campy parody like the MCU is to Marvel in general? Not that I'd expect one at this point considering that ship has long since sailed.
It’s a Marvel movie. You knew what you were getting before you even bought a ticket.

Capeshit haters are the music snobs of cinema.
 
It’s a Marvel movie. You knew what you were getting before you even bought a ticket.

Capeshit haters are the music snobs of cinema.
Not at all, the MCU as a whole is a negative for both the medium of film and comicbooks as a whole. Both will be better off once they go away or get replaced with something better and apathy's the only reason you'd think otherwise. Film gets drowned in quirky "irony" filled slop that holds their premises at arm's length since they could never be sincere while comicbooks get these parodies as their face to general audiences and influxes of writers seeing them as a gateway into TV/Film.

I didn't buy a ticket to see Love and Thunder but I can give you multiple pages on the negative influence of the MCU on multiple industries. I'm not actually trying to be a pretentious snob, I just think you writing them because of indifference doesn't change what they've been doing.
 
MCU movies are like chain restaurants. They're all well and good when you need a quick bite and want something reliable, mediocre, and reasonably priced. But when every fucking restaurant in town is a goddam Applebee's or PF Changs, and worse, everyone in town is pretending they're on the level of French Laundry or Le Bernadin, that's when they become a cancer. The MCU is the reason the 2010s-now have been the worst period for western cinema since the 1950s, and the sooner they get dustbinned and replaced with anything, anything else, the better off we'll all be.
 
Not at all, the MCU as a whole is a negative for both the medium of film and comicbooks as a whole. Both will be better off once they go away or get replaced with something better and apathy's the only reason you'd think otherwise. Film gets drowned in quirky "irony" filled slop that holds their premises at arm's length since they could never be sincere while comicbooks get these parodies as their face to general audiences and influxes of writers seeing them as a gateway into TV/Film.

I didn't buy a ticket to see Love and Thunder but I can give you multiple pages on the negative influence of the MCU on multiple industries. I'm not actually trying to be a pretentious snob, I just think you writing them because of indifference doesn't change what they've been doing.
“Medium of film and comic books.” Pretentious art fag detected.

No one is stopping you from watching black-and-white bohemian shit made by left-handed tranny communists off of a hanging bedsheet in a smelly basement somewhere.

Marvel movies do not negate Citizen Kane or (the far better) Birth of a Nation or Triumph of the Will.

Comic books do not negate classic literature. Shitty comic books do not negate Watchmen.

Shitty Soundcloud mumblerap does not negate Elvis, The Wall, or Beethoven.

You’re just an art fag trying to look smart and aloof by shitting on Current Popular Thing.

You don’t have to like Current Popular Thing. You don’t even need a reason to not like it. You can just say, “I don’t like it” or “not my thing” or say nothing at all.

But you can’t do that, because it doesn’t send up the “i’m smrt” signal to whomever you’re trying to impress.
 
“Medium of film and comic books.” Pretentious art fag detected.

No one is stopping you from watching black-and-white bohemian shit made by left-handed tranny communists off of a hanging bedsheet in a smelly basement somewhere.

Marvel movies do not negate Citizen Kane or (the far better) Birth of a Nation or Triumph of the Will.

Comic books do not negate classic literature. Shitty comic books do not negate Watchmen.

Shitty Soundcloud mumblerap does not negate Elvis, The Wall, or Beethoven.

You’re just an art fag trying to look smart and aloof by shitting on Current Popular Thing.

You don’t have to like Current Popular Thing. You don’t even need a reason to not like it. You can just say, “I don’t like it” or “not my thing” or say nothing at all.

But you can’t do that, because it doesn’t send up the “i’m smrt” signal to whomever you’re trying to impress.
Who brought up Citizen Kane or Watchmen? I'm saying they're shittier than the Jason Aaron Thor comics they're extremely loosely "adaptating". I'm saying it's a problem when you have so many of these being pumped out drowning out the market with underpaid CG artists and the numerous problems surrounding them.

If anyone's a pretentious artfag, it's you with these dumbfuck examples.
 
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I didn't saw Wandavision and the fact that the movies relies so heavily on the plot of a tv show is a sign that the MCU wants to go all streaming. I still believe there is a massive plothole in the whole Multiverse, like the same plothole in Rick and Morty that if there are infinite universe nothing really matters. Wanda could have tried to find a multiverse with an alive visio instead of trying to snatch kids from her other self or something. I don't know, it was weird and dumb.
Well they basically went to the most extreme level in that direction with Loki, where even the infinity stones, the whole reason for half the mcu plots and these maguffins being the center of probably the two most major movies the mcu will ever have, infinity war and endgame, are made worthless in an attempt to make the stakes in that show somehow even higher. They officially gave up the ghost here for me. If you haven't seen Loki either, just don't.
 
The only thing missing from Minge & Monger was an actual pride parade scene

All the general camp and faggotry was there tho
 
I'm more looking to be simply entertained and wait for the franchise to stop twiddling its thumbs and get on with the next arc.
You know I keep seeing people say this, and I'm actually the exact opposite. I find it crazy that before these last couple of movies, the main thing people bitched about was "having to see all of them to understand anything", only for now the number one complaint being that all of them are stand alones that don't continue one overarching narrative. As if half of the "Infinity Saga" wasn't shit they jammed together retroactively to make fit to begin with. I don't mine these "stand alone" movies one bit.

That said, it was obvious that Eternals was supposed to set up the next phase, and I'm wondering if that flopping is going to make ol Kev change course, or he'll pull a Dark World and Age of Ultron and make future movies reference shit that happened in that as being a way bigger deal than people realized at the time.
 
You know I keep seeing people say this, and I'm actually the exact opposite. I find it crazy that before these last couple of movies, the main thing people bitched about was "having to see all of them to understand anything", only for now the number one complaint being that all of them are stand alones that don't continue one overarching narrative. As if half of the "Infinity Saga" wasn't shit they jammed together retroactively to make fit to begin with. I don't mine these "stand alone" movies one bit.

That said, it was obvious that Eternals was supposed to set up the next phase, and I'm wondering if that flopping is going to make ol Kev change course, or he'll pull a Dark World and Age of Ultron and make future movies reference shit that happened in that as being a way bigger deal than people realized at the time.
It's kinda funny watching that happen since it parallels a thing you hear a lot with actual comics. You always have people mistakenly believing they need to read everything even though they don't and so they demand a reboot. These same people will then cite "too many reboots" as a thing keeping them out even though Marvel has had no reboots and DC has only really had 1 (hard) reboot. So casual audiences are always demanding reboots to fix a reboot issue they think is there without ever being self-aware about it.
 
You know I keep seeing people say this, and I'm actually the exact opposite. I find it crazy that before these last couple of movies, the main thing people bitched about was "having to see all of them to understand anything", only for now the number one complaint being that all of them are stand alones that don't continue one overarching narrative. As if half of the "Infinity Saga" wasn't shit they jammed together retroactively to make fit to begin with. I don't mine these "stand alone" movies one bit.

That said, it was obvious that Eternals was supposed to set up the next phase, and I'm wondering if that flopping is going to make ol Kev change course, or he'll pull a Dark World and Age of Ultron and make future movies reference shit that happened in that as being a way bigger deal than people realized at the time.
I enjoy the standalone stuff (Moon Knight especially), but there's a certain appeal to seeing everything come together. Hopefully Thunderbolts or Young Avengers isn't too far off.
 
“Medium of film and comic books.” Pretentious art fag detected.

No one is stopping you from watching black-and-white bohemian shit made by left-handed tranny communists off of a hanging bedsheet in a smelly basement somewhere.

Marvel movies do not negate Citizen Kane or (the far better) Birth of a Nation or Triumph of the Will.

Comic books do not negate classic literature. Shitty comic books do not negate Watchmen.

Shitty Soundcloud mumblerap does not negate Elvis, The Wall, or Beethoven.

You’re just an art fag trying to look smart and aloof by shitting on Current Popular Thing.

You don’t have to like Current Popular Thing. You don’t even need a reason to not like it. You can just say, “I don’t like it” or “not my thing” or say nothing at all.

But you can’t do that, because it doesn’t send up the “i’m smrt” signal to whomever you’re trying to impress.
I think people just want more compelling narratives. Comic book characters can easily be used to tell some of the best stories in pop culture, yet the MCU doesn’t even try. It is a string of movies made by people who openly seem to hate comic books and believe they are inherently stupid. Honestly, all I really want is a superhero plot that takes its story seriously.

If I had to make a comparison, look at the DCAU. The DCAU did the same thing as the MCU about 15 years earlier. It had the big crossover universe and everything, yet, even when it went bigger, still pulled off some of the best adult story-telling of its medium. The people who made those shows cared about comics and didn’t feel the need to make it a joke for general audiences. The MCU could only hope to pull off half of what it did in really creating an emotional core.
I think this is more what people want out of comic stories on the big screen in general, yet it seems very few are ever able to do much. There are definitely directors passionate about comic stories, just look at Sam Rami or even Nolan, but it seems like most directors hate the medium and characters, and the MCU is the peak of that.
 
Who brought up Citizen Kane or Watchmen? I'm saying they're shittier than the Jason Aaron Thor comics they're extremely loosely "adaptating". I'm saying it's a problem when you have so many of these being pumped out drowning out the market with underpaid CG artists and the numerous problems surrounding them.

If anyone's a pretentious artfag, it's you with these dumbfuck examples.
Anyone who says retarded shit like "medium of film" is a pretentious art fag. I simply provided art fag references from popular culture that even non-art fags can recognize, so everyone can keep up.

So you're such a fan of comics that you know (or could at least Wikipedia search) and can name-drop someone who wrote whatever stretch of comic series X? And then you don't know (after X number of years of Marvel movies adapted from whatever source material from X number of decades of comics) what New Marvel Movie starring X character would be like? You're a purist of some sort who doesn't like how "loosely" adapted the source materials are? "Muh underpaid CG artists"? Fuckin' lol.

Never mind, I change my judgment to pretentious, autistic art fag. Every film adapts and changes the source material. Marvel does it, Harry Potter does it, Batman does it, all the detective movies from the 40s and 50s did it. Studios do it to entertain people who don't particularly care to wade through the material in its original medium and to update it for modern audiences, in exchange for money.

And if Chingchongchang doesn't like his low-paying CG job, he can get back to work making peking duck of lead toys or knockoff Marvel toys, idgaf.

Is Thor's armor exactly correct? How about the dialogue? Is it word for word precise? Is Bao, God of Dumpling canon? How much did the Chinese studio staff get paid?

The correct answer is nobody gives a shit, enjoy your popcorn. Or don't.
 
Anyone who says retarded shit like "medium of film" is a pretentious art fag. I simply provided art fag references from popular culture that even non-art fags can recognize, so everyone can keep up.

So you're such a fan of comics that you know (or could at least Wikipedia search) and can name-drop someone who wrote whatever stretch of comic series X? And then you don't know (after X number of years of Marvel movies adapted from whatever source material from X number of decades of comics) what New Marvel Movie starring X character would be like? You're a purist of some sort who doesn't like how "loosely" adapted the source materials are? "Muh underpaid CG artists"? Fuckin' lol.

Never mind, I change my judgment to pretentious, autistic art fag. Every film adapts and changes the source material. Marvel does it, Harry Potter does it, Batman does it, all the detective movies from the 40s and 50s did it. Studios do it to entertain people who don't particularly care to wade through the material in its original medium and to update it for modern audiences, in exchange for money.

Is Thor's armor exactly correct? How about the dialogue? Is it word for word precise? Is Bao, God of Dumpling canon? How much did the Chinese studio staff get paid?

The correct answer is nobody gives a shit, enjoy your popcorn. Or don't.
Can you at least type something coherent? Besides I'm one of the last people you could really call a poser about this stuff and I never once said changing things for an adaptation is bad in itself. You might notice I'm not making walls of noise like yourself.
 
With this guy’s role in the story, he should be a serious threat. He’s going around the cosmos slaughtering the gods. He’s working toward a goal of complete deicide, but they barely do anything with it. He kills a god in his first appearance, amputates Sif for a shitty joke, threatens to kill Jane and Lesbo King, and that’s it. The rest of his screentime is spent acting like a homicidal Uncle Fester. Then in his final moments he entrusts his daughter to Thor just because of a last second change of heart.
For some reason, Marvel seem to have reverted to their Phase 2 mentality of "It's not important to have an interesting or developed villain, we just need someone to drive the plot forward and fight with the hero at the end". So far the only villains in this phase who've made any real impact are Green Goblin and Scarlet Witch, and they were both characters who'd already been established in previous movies.
 
For some reason, Marvel seem to have reverted to their Phase 2 mentality of "It's not important to have an interesting or developed villain, we just need someone to drive the plot forward and fight with the hero at the end". So far the only villains in this phase who've made any real impact are Green Goblin and Scarlet Witch, and they were both characters who'd already been established in previous movies.
In hindsight, it's lucky that Thanos was handled as well as he was in Infinity War because he sure as hell didn't have much development before that point.
 
I DO NOT have a basic bitch contrarian opinion! I’m cool and smart!
You were embarassed after being called out for having a faux-intellectual normie-level “I don’t like current popular thing” contrarian opinion in a thread discussing popular thing.

You kept trying to look deep and thoughtful by subtly changing your bullshit every exchange to make yourself a moving target.

In the end, you went with a libtard-tier “I don’t understand words” blather.

It’s okay to be a basic bitch and have basic bitch opinions. But we’ll still judge you.

I bet Bao eats mad pussy at the god orgies.
 
You were embarassed after being called out for having a faux-intellectual normie-level “I don’t like current popular thing” contrarian opinion in a thread discussing popular thing.

You kept trying to look deep and thoughtful by subtly changing your bullshit every exchange to make yourself a moving target.

In the end, you went with a libtard-tier “I don’t understand words” blather.

It’s okay to be a basic bitch and have basic bitch opinions. But we’ll still judge you.

I bet Bao eats mad pussy at the god orgies.
Here, I'll make it simple for you.

1. Do you realize how much of a mongoloid bottom-feeder you're making yourself out to be if you're pretending somebody who reads comics is above you? You keep misreading my words in the most asinine of ways.

2. This post below spells out my point for you.
I think people just want more compelling narratives. Comic book characters can easily be used to tell some of the best stories in pop culture, yet the MCU doesn’t even try. It is a string of movies made by people who openly seem to hate comic books and believe they are inherently stupid. Honestly, all I really want is a superhero plot that takes its story seriously.

If I had to make a comparison, look at the DCAU. The DCAU did the same thing as the MCU about 15 years earlier. It had the big crossover universe and everything, yet, even when it went bigger, still pulled off some of the best adult story-telling of its medium. The people who made those shows cared about comics and didn’t feel the need to make it a joke for general audiences. The MCU could only hope to pull off half of what it did in really creating an emotional core.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qotqAHHVeTQI think this is more what people want out of comic stories on the big screen in general, yet it seems very few are ever able to do much. There are definitely directors passionate about comic stories, just look at Sam Rami or even Nolan, but it seems like most directors hate the medium and characters, and the MCU is the peak of that.
 
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