🐮 Lolcow Jeffrey Leibowitz / Not Dead Yet

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Bucephalus said:
The taipan seems very young - they're about 6-8 ft long when fully grown. I expect that would be his saving grace if he does pull through.
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There's supposedly no difference between a juvi and an adult bite for the taipan, as from what I was told when we transported someone who got bitten by a coastal.

Edit: The juvi might be more dangerous since they can't control the amount of venom they use usually iirc.
 
If you intentionally injure or mistreat an animal, you are no longer a human being. Animal abuse should be on the same level as being a mega-pedo: society turns its collective back on you. One infraction and boom, that’s it. No warnings, no fines, you get the Cain treatment. Persist in the doomed world you have created.
 
Bucephalus said:
He has a YouTube channel, named after his pet serval - another animal that shouldn't be kept as a pet, let alone inside your house.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VCiJHi3l_Gg
It isn't housebroken.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LjTgwHxQzfQ
It's broken into the room where he keeps all of his venomous snakes before.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sj2vRsaHdAI
And as of ten days ago, it has an infection.
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It is mostly likely a Savannah cat he calls a serval for clicks
 
Seen Viperkeeper talking about this retard and that because of his stupidity South Carolina is like going to ban or restrict the keeping of Venomous animals.
Anyone that free handles venomous reptiles is a fucking retard like that dumb bitch that died trying to grab her Gaboon Viper bare handed from under her sofa. There is nothing wrong with keeping venomous animals as long as you respect them, have the training to safely handle them when you have to and have your own supply of anti venom.
 
Idk what it says about me, but I wasn't that interested until I saw he had a Lynx serval (Whereabouts unknown, prob RIP)

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This dude should just say that he does snake handling as a religious practice of he wants to keep smooching vipers and shit.

 
Halloween23 said:
The venomous keeper rabbit hole is deep and time consuming, but retards like this guy is exactly what sucked me in to it.

If he lives and they ever catch him with an exotic animal again, he should be thrown in jail.
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We really do need a thread for the community just so we can clown on Chandler.
 
Mao Hao Hao said:
Live feeding is just cruel for both the prey animal and the snakes (unless snake needs live feeding, then its up to the owner to make it safe and humane). There's high risk of the prey animal attacking the snake and injuring it/even killing it, especially in a small enclosure environment or box, depending on how cruel the owner is in keeping the snakes (snakes do not enjoy cramped boxes 24/7, those are meant to be temporary travel storage or for when their main tank is being cleaned). Snakes have zero defences when attacked (especially constrictors), as if they miss their initial bite, they don't exactly have arms or anything to fend off an attack.
After reading through this thread, man I hate terrible exotics owners, they always make the news and make everyone look bad, despite many doing their very best for their pets, and it also makes snakes/other reptiles look bad too when one inevitably kills someone due to poor management.
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Most people that live feed are just sadistic edgy fucks who like to watch animals suffer and die. The worst are those scumbags that feed live rats and mice to Tarantulas and Piranhas.
 
The I Scream Man said:
As a guinea pig person I fucking hate snakes and the reptile community in general because they can't stop feeding live guineas to their snakes

They're not even good for snakes, per the snake people I know
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Wait till you realize what South Americans do to guinea pigs

ulsterscotsman said:
Most people that live feed are just sadistic edgy fucks who like to watch animals suffer and die. The worst are those scumbags that feed live rats and mice to Tarantulas and Piranhas.
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Unless you have a bird eater tarantula that’s a good way to end up with a dead tarantula. Personally live feeding with mammals is something I just can’t do, it feels wrong. Tho I do understand why some reptile keepers do it, certain snakes get all depressed only eating dead food, I’ve never seen it myself but I’ve heard it.
 
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ulsterscotsman said:
Seen Viperkeeper talking about this retard and that because of his stupidity South Carolina is like going to ban or restrict the keeping of Venomous animals.
Anyone that free handles venomous reptiles is a fucking retard like that dumb bitch that died trying to grab her Gaboon Viper bare handed from under her sofa. There is nothing wrong with keeping venomous animals as long as you respect them, have the training to safely handle them when you have to and have your own supply of anti venom.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vFczgAYwWtk
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I know who Viperkeeper is and have watched his videos for years. That said, he's never NOT sounded like chris chan from a parallel world where he's either properly medicated or normal.

Seriously. Close your eyes and listen to him talk in this video while picturing early 2010 Chris and remove the autism.
 
The_Red_Man said:
if his kidneys aren't producing urine... Where the hell does the liquid go
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The kidney's are responsible for maintaining the balance of liquid as well as filtering out waste products, and balancing salts and ions in the blood. If your kidneys aren't working, the liquid stays, which would mean you are likely fluid overloaded, the waste products stay in your blood until they build up to the point that they damage you, then eventually kill you when the levels get high enough, and your salts and ions get all out of whack, which eventually causes your cardiorespiratory system to fail.

In his situation, dialysis would only be a stop gap. Dialysis requires that at least a portion of your kidneys are intact. If your kidneys are truly dead, that is incompatible with life for very long, because dialysis takes a hell of a toll on the body, and it also does an incomplete job of what your kidney's should do. The dialysis machine is set to estimate how much filtering, etc... you need, and it is very easy to over and undershoot the actual numbers you need, which then means using all sorts of other medication to correct that, whereas you body does all of it with a series of sensors and feedback that just can't be replicated with a machine. That's why if you are on dialysis, what kidney function you have will still decline with time. It's also why kidney transplants still exist, because the machines are only meant to be a stop gap on the way to a transplant (or to keep you going until you can't any longer and you die because you are not able to get a transplant). Dialysis is quite good at this point, people can live for years and years on it, but it is literally not a substitute for functional kidneys, it's just a bridge to where you can get new ones.

Osama Bin Laden said:
i like to imagine that he got brought to a hospital for the nurses to administer anti venom but he says “i’m not a fuckin pussy” and walks out
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When he got to the hospital, I guarantee he couldn't walk. He was probably lucky he could talk, or even breathe on his own.

The_Red_Man said:
Well, he's not going to the top of the donor list. Iirc you have to wait an average of 5 years for a replacement.
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Unfortunately, the 1st criteria of UNOS is criticality. If his kidneys are 100% shot or near shot, that would put him at the top of the list. The next criteria they go by, if patients are equally critical, is how long they have been on the list, with more time being the higher priority.
 
Lot of Saint Patrick’s in the thread.

The only times I’ve ever held a snake was randomly in the woods as a kid. The first time it was some non-venomous snake that bit the shit out of me. The 2nd time it was a rattle snake that didn’t have a rattle and I threw like it was red hot when some with me pointed out it was a rattle snake because of its pattern.
 
You know how there's bug chasers who seek out handling gay dicks and hoping to catch STDs from pozzed spermloads? Is there a version of that with exotic pet owners and not using protection/taking risks when handling? Venomchasers?
 
Dude Dragons said:
This is cruelty, this animal looks like it's suffering brain damage. It can't curl like snakes do and seems disorientated. Wow I feel bad for it. :(
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If I'm not mistaken, as my understanding of reptile neurophysiology is limited, that is actually the case. The part of their brain that corresponds with our cerebellum is damaged because of the genetics involved, which also produces the coloration/pattern known as the "spider" morph. It's very similar to the damage seen in cats with cerebellar hypoplasia (wobbly kitty) syndrome, and similar to what happens to people that have cerebellar strokes or the human version of cerebellar hypoplasia.

It may seem strange how the color/pattern can impact the neural anatomy/physiology, but it can be explained through embryology. Every cell in our body comes from just 3 different primitive layers of cells very early in development, so many organs and systems that don't seem to be related actually come from the same layer of primitive layer of cells early on. Sometimes the genetics of cells prevents them from moving from certain layers into other structures as development progresses, or the cells don't form structures correctly because of their genetics.

One benign example of this in humans is people that have dark hair but have blue eyes. In blonde/blue eyed people, genetics impacts an enzyme that is required for pigments all over the body, which is why it impacts their hair color, eye color, and they tend to have quite fair skin color. For people that have dark hair and blue eyes, that enzyme works normally, but instead, they genetically lack a receptor that allow for the pigment cells that provide color for the eyes into the area of development that produces the brain and ocular structures. As such, they have normal pigmentation everywhere, except for their eyes, because the cells never made it to the ocular structure to provide the pigment, which likely would have been in the brown/hazel family.

A better example is white cats, blue eyes, and deafness. If a cat has a white coat, and blue eyes, it is completely deaf. This is because the cells responsible for pigment, for the coat, and the eyes, never developed in the first place because of a genetic error. These cells also provide a critical part of the pathway for the auditory system in cats. With those cells missing, their auditory system cannot function, and they can't hear.

So, for many types of animal, including humans, cells responsible for providing pigmentation/pattern can actually play a role in how other systems and structures function, due to the fact that they share a common ancestry that goes all the way back to when they were just 3 different layers of cells early on in development.
 
ulsterscotsman said:
There is nothing wrong with keeping venomous animals as long as you respect them, have the training to safely handle them when you have to and have your own supply of anti venom.
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Respectfully disagree.

The type of people who would go to safety handling class, get certified, spend 5k on anti venom 3 times a year would be in a situation of having their shit so together they would have no interest in having a venomous snake living in their house. You're describing a risk averse person when you envision this hypothetical "perfect deadly snake owner". It's like when Destiny starts describing why incest isn't bad on its own

"Well what if it's two siblings with no mental illnesses who are barren and can't have offspring and grew up in different homes on different continents ... then what's the problem?"

Well the problem is that you have to put up so many guardrails on your hypothetical scenario that it becomes absurd. Well adjusted people dont fuck their siblings, the reality of incest is its usually a figure of authority fucking their kids ala Ben Thorp. Same thing with the venomous snakes.

Sure if the zookeeper in your video wants to have mambas at home who really cares? He knows the danger, knows proper enclosure, knows how to care for the animal etc. But my guess is that doesn't have a black mamba at home and if you asked him why not he'd say something akin to "why would I even take the risk".

Most people who would want a relatively benign snake, like a ball python or a cornsnake, are 20 year old stoners. Any person that wants a venomous snake is just the evolved version of this pokiman. A 30 year old renter whose turned his whole personality into "the snake guy", now has to up the odds to seperate himself from the herd of level 1 ball python owners.

If you had survey of private venomous snake owners you would invariably have
99% Renters
99% Jerry rigged enclosures
99% Not enough money to afford antivenom
99% Substance abusers

This is to say 99% Jeff Liebowitzes

I could come up with a very specific set of rules for venomous snake owning, but at an early point the "know what you are doing" rule would become prohibitive.

TLDR Smart responsible people aren't going to own venomous snakes because being responsible is mutually exclusive to owning a venomous snake.
 
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Holy Jesus, I actually know this retard IRL. He was always teetering on the edge of what we now refer to as "cowdom," as it certainly caught up to him a few times in his personal and professional life. In this case though, it looks like it might be terminal.

If you look a little deeper, you might find some "interesting" things.

Due to the risk of doxxing myself, that's all I say.
 
Marche said:
Here are some of the reptile friends I've found in my garden harassing my cats in the catio.
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Ha, I love that, trying to be a big, scary lizard.

Zertes said:
It is mostly likely a Savannah cat he calls a serval for clicks
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I can say with certainty that is a full blooded serval.

rando0675309 said:
Holy Jesus, I actually know this retard IRL. He was always teetering on the edge of what we now refer to as "cowdom," as it certainly caught up to him a few times in his personal and professional life. In this case though, it looks like it might be terminal.

If you look a little deeper, you might find some "interesting" things.

Due to the risk of doxxing myself, that's all I say.
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Just make sure to let us know if the retard dies, or if you can get some good cripple video of him trying to walk again, for a laugh.
 
I think for some people here unfamiliar with this guys content it’s important to note that even though Inland Taipans are relatively mild in temperament, Jeff ignores the body language of snakes and handleS them when stressed. A lot of his content was filming and laughing at animals he had terrorised to fear humans. He uses no tools, and holds them at just the body, no control of the head.

Working with venomous snakes is not a guarantee someone will eventually get bit. It just isn’t like that anymore for people that have experience, are genuinely interested and care for the animals, and generally stay responsible. Which includes having antivenin on hand. Accidents can happen, but this wasn’t an accident. This was deliberate mishandling (not reckless, deliberate) resulting in the inevitable.

There are some good people in the snake/reptile community. They do not think or care if these animals hold affection for them, they just think they’re interesting and a different form of life to enjoy, without the demands of something like a dog.
 
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