🐮 Lolcow Jeffrey Leibowitz / Not Dead Yet

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Bucephalus said:
How did this moron get his hands on an inland taipan, anyway? They're Australian, and they're the most venomous snake on the planet. You're not allowed to export any live native animal out of Australia to have as a pet, save for a few parrots (budgies, sulphur-crested cockatoos, cockatiels, etc.). I can't fathom how this would ever make it through customs.
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There are breeding populations that were exported before the ban. You can get Aussie snakes (that aren't retarded to own) like Children's and Carpet Pythons pretty easy.

Hellbound Hellhound said:
I don't understand the appeal of keeping dangerous wild animals like this as pets. You're not going to get any genuine affection from them, and it's not like you're giving them any genuine affection in return by taking them out of their natural habitat and keeping them caged up indoors. They're just a terrible accident waiting to happen, and it could just as easily be an innocent bystander who gets hurt as the moron responsible for keeping them.
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Snakes are underrated pets, something like a Ball Python (the standard pet snake) is very handle-able if socialized and their instinct is to 'ball up' when scared. You can carry them around and interact with them, they are pretty slow and they only eat/shit once a week or so. They are perfectly happy sleeping in a glorified drawer for weeks on end (though for me the terrarium itself would be a big part of the draw). If my kid wanted a reptile I would steer them to a Ball or a small boa or a corn snake or something before a turtle or a chameleon or god forbid a fucking bird.

'Hot' snake ownership should only be done by pros. Sometimes there is science/research/anti-venom farming/breeding related reason to keep them but this guy just seems to be a tard. If you want something dangerous/rare/pretty there are venimous snakes that won't outright kill you and stuff like the Green Tree Pythons that just want to look pretty and strike you at every opportunity but aren't venimous.

pinstripe said:
the only reason someone gets bit by an inland taipan is if they are seriously fucking with it. they are a placid snake. im suprised he wasnt bit by his mamba first those things always look like they are pissed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC1YBxLX00I just to show how calm these things are
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Yeah in the wild it's hard to get bit by one of these but in captivity there are more situations that might produce a strike. People get bit due to a miss-strike during feeding or taking shortcuts while spot cleaning or something (not moving the snake to holding tank or throwing in a divider). Snakes don't usually want to spend their venom on some schlomo.
 
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The_Red_Man said:
if his kidneys aren't producing urine... Where the hell does the liquid go
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Two words: Kidney Dialysis. The urine stays in the bloodstream because the kidneys aren't filtering it out. This gradually poisons the body unless Dialysis removes it.

Simply put, Jeff has kidney failure from the venom.
 
pinstripe said:
the only reason someone gets bit by an inland taipan is if they are seriously fucking with it. they are a placid snake. im suprised he wasnt bit by his mamba first those things always look like they are pissed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC1YBxLX00I just to show how calm these things are
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yeah the inland taipan is considered fairly easy to handle if you're trained, experienced, and not a retard. not that you should want to because one mistake or bit of bad luck and you're either dead or you're jeff leibowitz
 
Procrastinhater said:
...whichever faggot decided to kill all of them instead of rehousing them should be forced to run the Boston Marathon with a sack filled with Solifuges tied to his dick. Not fair the Danger Noodles had to die for this fucks incompetence.
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I wouldn't be too harsh. The remaining cat got rehomed, but as for the snakes, they asked around various institutions and nobody could keep them. As his critics pointed out, the animals didn't look to be reared properly, not to mention their existence alone likely violates several laws. I mean, what is anyone supposed to do with a bunch of deadly exotic snakes, among them literally the most dangerous in the world, after you've just exhausted your entire country's supply of antivenom on their owner and his subatomic penis? As RodgerDodger relayed upthread, these are the kinds of animals most people including law enforcement don't even want to go near.

Australian custom laws are ruthless in part for the animal's welfare, because even if they end up with responsible and knowledgeable owners, the country they're in won't have the facilities to treat and deal with them if something goes wrong. If their welfare can't be guaranteed and they're still going to pose a real risk to people, then law enforcement is kind of obligated to not make them a problem anymore. It's what makes this guy in some ways worse than, say Polissa Campbell - conventional pets can get treatment, get shelter, have at least an opportunity for a new life. Animals like this, that I and I suspect most people new nothing about until they read about this story? If their owner is fucked, then likely so are they.
 
It's crazy to me some of the wildlife people can amass in certain US states, especially species not native to the country. It's fucked up that people keep big cats like tigers and other exotic animals for their own selfish desires. I give the shelters that inevitably care for these animals when their owners get arrested, abscond, or die due respect and you should support all wildlife rehabilitation and rescue.

Separate incident, but seeing that video of FWC euthanizing the wrong snake (pregnant boa that was legally possessed) and not putting it out of its misery like it was some oopsie doodle while it writhes in pain for 20 minutes in the background was horrific.

Warning: snake necropsy from above incident

Anyway, this stupid fuck got what he deserved. As mentioned, an inland taipan would definitely be illegally obtained. Australia's biosecurity laws are some of the most stringent in the world, but in NSW I believe with the highest class of permit these can be privately owned. Chances are high some of those people facilitate the trade. Commercial export of live native animals is banned in Australia.
 
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Bucephalus said:
How did this moron get his hands on an inland taipan, anyway?
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The exotic pet trade is truly evil and Americans seem to be its biggest consumers. Every type of Australian animal is smuggled out of the country for profit. No one talks about it and border security is a joke.

Edit: This guy has the most sterotypical hollywood jewish rapist voice I've ever heard, if someone was imitatating his voice I'd think they're were trying too hard
 
Anyway, RIP to the baby Inland Taipan that never should’ve been born to begin with. Hopefully it managed to take out this animal abusing faggot before it went. Hope the breeder/seller goes next.
 
Echo_Doge said:
I've personally found Copperheads and Water Moccasins to be aggressive assholes that will actively chase people and animals when they're hunting. Just because they
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I come across venomous snakes at least once a week during work, sometimes more, this is very true. Of all the wild snakes I have been in very close proximity too, copperheads and moccasins are the worst. The only animals I have any actual fear of. Just last week had a pissed off cottonmouth that chased and struck at me and a coworker.

Snake and rat hoarders are the nastiest, and weirdest among animal keepers.
 
My dad kept venomous snakes/reptiles but nothing like a taipan, just rattlers and gila monsters. Exotic animal people are fucking nuts and I'd say 80% of them don't know what the fuck they're doing.
 
TEA 3HF said:
Once again, canines prove superior
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Radical opinion but the easier lizards (leopard geckos, beardies) are probably a more reasonable pet for urban/suburban owners then dogs. High strung purse dogs are a fucking plague and keeping normal sized dogs you don't have several hours a day to socialize with/exercise and a huge backyard for is mildly abusive. Meanwhile lizards will be mostly entertained by throwing food into their box twice a week and watching you go about your day.
 
If he survives it is a miracle. Taipans are fucking frightening and although the Inland Taipans have a reputation of being "placid" they can be startled and be in a very bad mood quickly. I've seen one slither after and try and bite a Toyota ute I was a passanger in in central Queensland when we startled it sunning on a mining backroad. Pretty easy going mostly compared to the Coastal Taipan or Eastern Brown but that fright response is why they also have the name "Fierce Snake", I can't understand how anyone outside of an anti-venom farm would want to have anything to do with them because of the potential for things to go wrong.

I read the report on the incident below as was working in Central Queensland at the time. Gas worker gets out of his car to check a gas well, gets bitten by a cranky Coastal Taipan, and is dead before he can get back to his car to call or radio for help.
Long and short is these snakes are no joke.

All of the minesites we work on have fully stocked anti-venom. Taipans (as @Dyn pointed out it will work for both Coastal and Inland), Death Adders, Eastern Browns, Tigers and Mulga (otherwise known as King Browns). This is mainly for insurance purposes because in my honest opinion you cop a wet bite from any of those snakes you're still at least an hour away from the anti-venom and most likely fucked. I am honestly amazed this guy hasn't died.

Why anyone would want to keep any of these Aussie elapids as pets is beyond me. Especially outside of Australia where the anti-venoms would be a lot harder to source.
 
So he got bit on Saturday, and he’s still (presumably) not dead yet? I would have thought a bite like that would have been fatal pretty quickly. Would anti-venom even do anything for him at this point, or is the damage already done?
 
Dirty Larry said:
So he got bit on Saturday, and he’s still (presumably) not dead yet? I would have thought a bite like that would have been fatal pretty quickly. Would anti-venom even do anything for him at this point, or is the damage already done?
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Most likely a dry bite, which is why he's most likely still breathing. Meaning the snake didn't inject a full dose of venom. The elapids can do this. You still get venom in the bite due to it being in the fangs, but if the snake doesn't commit to injecting the venom you'll only get a minute amount compare to a committed wet bite (too much time on my part spent on snake risk assessment for mine sites). My guess is Jeff got a dry bite as a warning, and the little bit of venom he got has done the damage. Pure speculation on my part because by all rights given what I've read on the Inland Taipan if it was a full committed bite he should already be dead.
 
FieldPiece said:
My dad kept venomous snakes/reptiles but nothing like a taipan, just rattlers and gila monsters. Exotic animal people are fucking nuts and I'd say 80% of them don't know what the fuck they're doing.
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I think some of those people are edgy adrenaline junkies. They get off on owning a dangerous animal that can kill them if presented with an opportunity.
 
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