Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

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I think most of them consider they could just hire a prostitute. But what does that really prove?

When people say it's a problem of mindset, it's basically saying just change your entire personality, which is largely based on your past experiences. Easier said than done.
Not really you just force yourself to do something. I never enjoyed driving a car. I put off owning one till my early 20s. I drive constantly now.... the trick is to just man up and get over it.

You can choose to address a problem or not but you have to actually address it to fix it.
 
I think most of them consider they could just hire a prostitute. But what does that really prove?
I don't think they should.
When people say it's a problem of mindset, it's basically saying just change your entire personality, which is largely based on your past experiences. Easier said than done.
If you want results, you have to change a few things. If your past sucked, the best thing you could do about it is forget about it.
 
I drive constantly now.... the trick is to just man up and get over it.

I think a relationship is more complicated than driving. Sure, these guys might be able to keep a confident act for a few hours with some alcohol to get a girl back to his house. But eventually they'll reveal who they truly are, and then the girl will realize she was duped and leave.

If you want results, you have to change a few things. If your past sucked, the best thing you could do about it is forget about it.

As I said easier said than done. But as with every game, there has be losers. Are you annoyed the losers are complaining they lost?
 
Incel should just pay for sex.
That's an pathetic but honest exchange.

My money your body.
I am desperate for human warmth and you for money.

Deal🤑


That's it
While prostitution is wrong I have to agree with this since modern women really dont have any honor worth protecting. Will it fix anything? Nah not really. Will it make the poor conditions a bit more bearable? Yeah sure.
 
While prostitution is wrong I have to agree with this since modern women really dont have any honor worth protecting. Will it fix anything? Nah not really. Will it make the poor conditions a bit more bearable? Yeah sure.
The modern woman is a brainless semen receptacle for Chad, we have no use for her.
 
While prostitution is wrong I have to agree with this since modern women really dont have any honor worth protecting. Will it fix anything? Nah not really. Will it make the poor conditions a bit more bearable? Yeah sure.
Is prostitution that wrong?

Yeah married men going to prostitutes is wrong.

A single lonely man paying to see a prostitute is not a tragedy.

Sexual frustration and hate can make people violent.

Prostitutes can sometimes pacify future danger for society.
 
But eventually they'll reveal who they truly are, and then the girl will realize she was duped and leave.
This kind of belies your real problem, which is that you think you’re repulsive and women wouldn’t want to be with you unless they’re drunk and you put up a facade of “attractiveness” (which I think incel moids tend to overthink, and overemphasize things women dont care about very much.)

Sexual frustration and hate can make people violent.

Prostitutes can sometimes pacify future danger for society.
I don’t think it’s particularly moral or fair to put the prostitutes in charge of “pacifying” frustrated and violent men. They’re there to have sex, not be de facto psychologists to men who claim they don’t need to see a shrink.
 
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This kind of belies your real problem, which is that you think you’re repulsive and women wouldn’t want to be with you unless they’re drunk and you put up a facade of “attractiveness”

Men are Visual, front loaded, they pretty much don't care about other stuff unless you are a literal screaming meth addict. Women are Mental, back loaded. They want to know what did you study? where do you work? where is your life going? whats your five year plan?

If you are guy looking for a relationship with a girl, you'd better have a plan, even if it's to be the best crack dealer on the block and expand your crack business.
 
I don’t think it’s particularly moral or fair to put the prostitutes in charge of “pacifying” frustrated and violent men. They’re there to have sex, not be de facto psychologists to men who claim they don’t need to see a shrink.
Weird way to try to warp what he said in order to shit on men and set women up as burdened martyrs as always.
 
I don’t think it’s particularly moral or fair to put the prostitutes in charge of “pacifying” frustrated and violent men.
The reason trafficking is so bad is because otherwise it’s a voluntary position. They put themselves there, and I’m pretty sure that they understand the lay of the land. They probably prefer autistic, awkward guys to potentially violent druggies, so it’s not a bad day for them.
They’re there to have sex, not be de facto psychologists to men who claim they don’t need to see a shrink.
Idk how well of an understanding you have of the actual process of therapy, but I think just having the sex is enough. If you don’t have insurance, it’s cheaper than therapy on top
 
Men are Visual, front loaded, they pretty much don't care about other stuff unless you are a literal screaming meth addict. Women are Mental, back loaded. They want to know what did you study? where do you work? where is your life going? whats your five year plan?

If you are guy looking for a relationship with a girl, you'd better have a plan, even if it's to be the best crack dealer on the block and expand your crack business.
In reality, a plurality of women at a minimum will settle for “stable work history.”
 
You think incels and NEET's have stable work histories?
Lol. It’s an indicator.

Another thing that ladies get offended about if you mention is that they DO have a somewhat vampiric nature, but it’s not really malign. More like how your cat will sit on you when it’s cold because what it wants is your heat.

The biggest thing you can do to get the ladies is -be fun-.

The articulation around this concept is bad. You used to hear them say they want a guy to be “spontaneous,” and that’s true, but it has to be GOOD spontaneous. This is more of an initial requirement to get your foot in the door, you don’t really have to worry about maintaining the pace after things are official, but in the early phase of dating or in getting the first date, you have to look like someone who is having a good time all on their own, in their personal relationship with the world around them, and then they will want in on it.

That’s why desperation is such a turn-off. You can’t hide it. It emanates from you and forms a stinky aura.

Back to the topic of hookers, I think that for someone who has never had sex, the circumstances of having it are less important than it’s ability to dispel your negative aura and replace it with a period of serendipity. Serendipity is the number one most attractive thing in the universe. If a girl can smell it on you, she’ll mug you for it
 
The biggest thing you can do to get the ladies is -be fun-.

"When the working day is done.... girls just wanna have fu-un, that's all they really wa-a-a-a-nt"


That’s why desperation is such a turn-off. You can’t hide it. It emanates from you and forms a stinky aura.

You are assuming many of these guys even want Women now. The horror stories keep piling up. It's simply not worth it. Even a prostitute could be a BPD girl blowing up your phone for weeks afterward.
 
You are assuming many of these guys even want Women now.
Of course I am. You can build structures on top of the biological imperative, you can try to divert it, you can be the Arnold Schwarzenegger of massive copes, but you can’t remove it.

Maybe you can fuck your own head up so much that you could spend an afternoon looking around in there and not find a desire for female companionship, but if you removed that structure, it’s still there. An infinite wellspring.
The horror stories keep piling up. It's simply not worth it. Even a prostitute could be a BPD girl blowing up your phone for weeks afterward.
I promise you, there would be extra details if a prostitute was blowing your phone up afterwards. The guy that story came from probably asked her to be in a relationship
 
You are assuming many of these guys even want Women now. The horror stories keep piling up. It's simply not worth it. Even a prostitute could be a BPD girl blowing up your phone for weeks afterward.
What do they want then?

You pay the hooker to go away afterwards. She won't last long as a hooker if she doesn't do what she's paid for.
 
Maybe you can fuck your own head up so much that you could spend an afternoon looking around in there and not find a desire for female companionship, but if you removed that structure, it’s still there. An infinite wellspring.

I would like you to define what Female companionship is first.
 
I would like you to define what Female companionship is first.
In this case I was using it as a euphemism for something like mutual sexual acceptance.. like if not actively having sex, than knowing they would if it came up.

Access to hetero sexuality
 
In this case I was using it as a euphemism for something like mutual sexual acceptance.. like if not actively having sex, than knowing they would if it came up.

Access to hetero sexuality

Not talking, not spending time together? Just the sexual?
 
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