Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

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GunCar Gary said:
i have a simple solution to fix incels (and femcels): change voting laws so only people who are married are allowed to vote. civil unions are allowed

single men and single women will get their shit together real quick when they're treated like second class citizens (as they should be)

i'll take my nobel peace price now, thank you
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I know you're joking, but that wouldn't do anything for men because the kind of guys you're talking about aren't participating much in society anyway.
 
Never Scored said:
I think the biggest issue with all these types of threads is autistic people cannot generally tell they are autistic. This is because it is incredibly difficult to assess ones social awareness without possessing the social awareness to know you are missing social cues, so it kind of becomes a bit of a catch-22.

You'll run into these guys swearing up and down that regular guys cannot get laid because they think they are a regular guy with a regular set of social skills who cannot get laid, when in reality they lack the social awareness to perceive the fact that they are lacking in basic social skills. Then all these "regular guys" get together in an online space and push a narrative that it is impossible for a regular guy to have sex, but they all lack the general social awareness to perceive that they are surrounded by other men who are clearly mildly autistic as opposed to regular guys with regular social skills.

I read a quote one time that went something like, "Autism is like wearing a giant hat and you're the only one who can't see it." That's a perfect analogy for what is happening.
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I don't think that's entirely it, especially with younger generations (people in their 20s and early 30s). I think it's far more the "main character" personality type than autism, especially since the hot girls have the same experience.

I've always found models and athletic women easier to get along with than regular women, I can make edgy jokes or even banter and they'll laugh and even defend me, while the normal ones would be aghast if I made a fat joke, or a lockdown joke. I do think that's where a lot of the resentment of "Chads" comes from.
 
Odd Opossum said:
I know you're joking, but that wouldn't do anything for men because the kind of guys you're talking about aren't participating much in society anyway.
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yes but my idea does three very important things:
- helps give single men innate value and bumps up the chance that women will actually want to give them a chance
- prevents the democratic party from using single women as vassals for infinite gibs of other people's money
- stops crazy people who aren't stable enough to be in a committed relationship from having any say in my life

i see no downsides
 
GunCar Gary said:
yes but my idea does three very important things:
- helps give single men innate value and bumps up the chance that women will actually want to give them a chance
- prevents the democratic party from using single women as vassals for infinite gibs of other people's money
- stops crazy people who aren't stable enough to be in a committed relationship from having any say in my life

i see no downsides
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nah it seems pretty retarded because people would just do marragies for the conveniance without trying to find love
ex 2 female friends "marry" each other just so they can get the vote
it wouldn't change anything besides making marrige mean even less there is no reason women have to marry men so it wouldn't give them any value if 2 women who are friends get married they will still be single liberals
its so fucking retarded if you think about this for 2 seconds
 
GunCar Gary said:
i have a simple solution to fix incels (and femcels): change voting laws so only people who are married are allowed to vote. civil unions are allowed

single men and single women will get their shit together real quick when they're treated like second class citizens (as they should be)

i'll take my nobel peace price now, thank you
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Just make a law where you are not allowed to use the Internet unless you can do a single, unassisted chin-up and it would solve 99% of western society's problems.
 
Kel1 shi1 said:
Tinder made it easy for these women to be low key whores without risking getting slut shamed by their peers that they would have back in the day.
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Slut shaming isn't even a thing, hasn't been a thing for a while, the fact that we're using "slut shaming" which is the accusation of stigma that whores use against those who dare to point out how many miles of dick they have taken shows how nobody cares anymore. Elaine's character in seinfeld back in the early 90's was already a total hoe even for our time and she was a boomer, not even genX who were still in their teens back then. Whenever it was pointed out she couldn't keep her legs closed it was made in a very toned down funny way and the person doing it was a loser like that germophobe lady.
Never Scored said:
Source: Trust me, bro.
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Source: its sour grapes attitude, those guys can't get any but its not cool to say "I don't get any" so they simply go with the ego-save that is "I'm not even bothering".
Never Scored said:
I read a quote one time that went something like, "Autism is like wearing a giant hat and you're the only one who can't see it."
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I seen autists saying something like that and complaining that therapists don't get that they can't simple be normal in public because everybody else can tell anyway.
Odd Opossum said:
A lot of guys now are far more anxious and low in confidence then in the past.
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Jeez I wonder why...
Odd Opossum said:
but it's easier to project your personal failings onto society
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Because that's what society tells you now, its never your fault its always society, the schools, your parents, "the system", but never you.
Uncle Phil said:
are blackpilling as fuck. 50 women to 100 men
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More like 20 woment to 80 men IIRC.
GunCar Gary said:
change voting laws so only people who are married are allowed to vote.
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We can barely get people to vote now and you want to do that?
 
Uncle Phil said:
Author Scott Galloway has written some interesting shit that he talks about in interviews on shows like Bill Maher.

In short, get the fuck off of dating apps, they are terrible for male users. The statistical data on interactions (and I know you understand that the companies running these apps do keep track of all this data, it exists for analysis) are blackpilling as fuck. 50 women to 100 men and 45 of those women are talking to just 10 of the men so 90 guys are competing for the attention of 5 women. That's why no one replies to you.

So once again the answer is: go touch grass. Join a community choir or a pottery class and meet some dorky girl who will suck your cock.
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Dating apps are terrible, but options become scarce past college age.

I've done meetups in various hobbies. Most of those women do them specifically to AVOID men.

The only thing men can do is put yourself out there, hope a woman finds you attractive enough and your situations are tolerable enough for a relationship. For some men, it's just not going to happen.
 
cybertoaster said:
Slut shaming isn't even a thing, hasn't been a thing for a while, the fact that we're using "slut shaming" which is the accusation of stigma that whores use against those who dare to point out how many miles of dick they have taken shows how nobody cares anymore.
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Disagree, personal experience when these tinder hoes want to let me know it's on is they always ask "Are you by yourself/alone?" meaning, no witnesses. Never heard a woman telling about how she rejected a guy because " She did not want to look easy?". Ever read women getting mad at actual sex workers having a dollar price on that pussy? Only because they are holding that pussy to ransom without giving it up to farm simps, and a how at $100 pay to play fucks up their game and see the sex worker making bank.
 
Kel1 shi1 said:
Disagree, personal experience when these tinder hoes want to let me know it's on is they always ask "Are you by yourself/alone?" meaning, no witnesses. Never heard a woman telling about how she rejected a guy because " She did not want to look easy?". Ever read women getting mad at actual sex workers having a dollar price on that pussy? Only because they are holding that pussy to ransom without giving it up to farm simps, and a how at $100 pay to play fucks up their game and see the sex worker making bank.
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Once this super conservative Lebanese chick hit me up after dropping her friends off after leaving the bar, instead of going home she wanted to see me alone but didn't want her friends or parents to know.
 
LeChampion1992 said:
I will say this. If you're a lonely guy get used to being alone with your thoughts. Develop your own inner monologue and improve yourself.
Second women are hypergamous, they want a strong guy who doesn't express his feelings no matter what they say. As a guy learn to be a stoic and in control of your emotions. You will be in plenty of situations as a man where stoicism and politeness will save your life.
It's okay to cry and dudes need dudes for a shoulder to cry on. Because at some point you need to be strong because no one else will be strong for you.
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My inner monologue is the source of 99% of my misery.
 
PUAs and manosohere dorks just pray on these kinds of people they don't help at all.


And then there's Andrew Tate kind of people who just make things worse and shamelessly scam these people...
 
Do you think anyone thats a self described incel is going to be able to handle a relationship with a girl? When it appears he can barely manage himself?

Now femcels? That's a different story...
 
r9k-speaks said:
Do you think anyone thats a self described incel is going to be able to handle a relationship with a girl? When it appears he can barely manage himself?
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I'll have you know I am perfectly capable of managing myself.

Now, drywall, that's another story entirely.
 
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