🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Of course, that begs the question of where he got the picture of the naked man and little girl to use in his shoop in the first place. :cryblood:

You read my mind!

Reading him refer to himself in the third person like he's being interviewed is both hilarious and cringe-worthy. This is USI manifested in (hairy, gassy) human form.

You want to know when somebody is a friendless loner whom nobody pays any attention to? When they create a fake interview. If you have to pretend that the press is interested in talking to you ...
 
Sweet is basically a low-tech troll and cyberbully, isn't he?

His website contains textbook examples of doxxing and encouraging online harassment, and that fake CP idea wouldn't be out of place on /baph/.

I wonder what Freewebs' ToS would have to say... :ween:
 
The thing about the CP and the connection of Bonnie Thrasher to a character he created that kills people is actually kind of similar in a way. Sweet has a sick, demented mind. It's a mind that quickly goes to violence, hatred, bitterness, and disgusting, disgusting, DEE-SKUSS-TING places. He just takes his twisted thinking and projects it on others.
 
Sweet is basically a low-tech troll and cyberbully, isn't he?

His website contains textbook examples of doxxing and encouraging online harassment, and that fake CP idea wouldn't be out of place on /baph/.

I wonder what Freewebs' ToS would have to say... :ween:
You know what I find really funny? Sweetums bitches all the time about how the ASU Herald has blacklisted him amongst the press and kept him from finding work or even getting an interview with another paper, when the truth is a simple google search will lead any yokel straight to his shitty website full of stalking, doxxing, perversion and butthurt. But that couldn't possibly have anything to do with people's reluctance to have anything to do with him, now could it?
 
Ho-leee ....
From the Welcome to Lemora! site. I don't know the official date that this was posted, but it seems to be in celebration of Belch Dimension issue #25, released in 2007:

Let's just truncate that a little bit to illustrate how little self-awareness this dude has:

Jon said:
I put together a fake photograph of ASU's president naked in bed with a little girl, and planned to send it to [Scott] Mitchell with a note saying 'From a friend...' However, I didn't want [Bonnie] Thrasher to trace the photo back to me. I knew she was hateful and insane....
 
Tanglepubes said:
Ten years later I'm writing books and starting my own company, and what're you up to? Still editing copy.

So Jon Thumb pulled out this card at one point huh? Alright, let me go a bit further detail into why this statement is hilarious, bullshit, and other such things.

Burnside's Folly here has written books, this is true. However, I do not seem to recall him selling any more than like maybe 6 or 7 ever. Plus he uses a very arcane and difficult way to get to his books, which means that he cannot actually easily get customers. He also doesn't push those books at all anymore, and I don't really recall him ever writing a new book past 2007 or so. He'd probably make some dumb excuse on this matter, like claiming things like "muh computer/muh brother", but the thing is, you can design many books using MS word. Hell, a joke book I did once was done via this method. Then this product would be run through to a .pdf converter file (which is free). However, these are things that Thumb, the anti-curious manchild he is, never looked into. In short, his book selling methods are shit, he hasn't put effort into selling them, and he doesn't write no more.

The second component is a pure joke. Chinless Wonder here has made several shells that he lumped with his comics, this is true as well. But once again, he doesn't actually sell them that often. A lot of this has to do with yet again another imbecilic sales scheme of his, where he sells the comic over the mail, expecting the customer to pay up by envelope. Then there's the matter that he never makes or adds new comics to the roster. Belch boy claims extenuating circumstances, like how he needs a cd burner or some shit to get the comics out of his old rig. This once again is positively stupid, since those are dirt fucking cheap, with many products being available for below 50 dollars. On top of that, this still shouldn't affect him, since he should, now that he has that new rig, be uploading to that one specifically. there's also the fact that there are file hosting sites like imgur nowadays. So ultimately we learned that Thumbface is just too damn lazy or doesn't make comics any more. What I'm trying to say is his business failed.

Now on to dissing Mr. Mitchell. He worked as a copy editor, which is one of the most important jobs that you can have at a newspaper or publisher. This is because you go through the paper to see if it was written correctly, fits the mood, and in some cases if it is correct in concept. It is thanks to them that newspapers look professional in a lot of ways. They also get payed fairly decently, a normal copy editor earns about 40k a year. Not too shabby, that's a comfortable middle class life, safely away from the edge of the 15% tax bracket. He also happened to work for the Star-Telegram at this time. Captain Clown mocks this, but the thing is that the Star-Telegram is one of the Dallas- Ft.Worth Metroplex's biggest papers. It on an average day distributes about 200,000 copies. On Sunday, that nearly doubles. So he did get a solid job at a pretty prestigious paper. He actually used his degree for something. What did Sir Fartsalot do with his? Sit on his ass, forget how it works, and rage at shit from two decades ago.

And the best part: He said this to seem like he lives better than Mr. Mitchell. If that was the case, I'd consider it a job well done and feel vindicated. But notice that he doesn't feel that way and is still so fucking mad. Even with "success" you can still see his positive rage.

Sweet has probably never applied for a job in any case.

He said basically that "he gave up on jobs" because he counts the Herald (non-paying resume builder) the gig with mom's beau (where he was actually babysat and had no official position) and the gig with his mom's business (which never started) as jobs he had. The thing is he was likely given 2 of the 3 situations by his mom, and the Herald... well, not to sure. Probably has to do with the fact that he wanted to make newspaper comics or something is my guess.

Other excuses he has used is that he makes more collecting cans on the roadways than at a minimum wage job (lolno), that these jobs are not for him (correct, but not for his reasoning), and I think he's on occasion bragged about being his own employee (which is also a load). What I'm trying to say is that Tanglepubes is a welfare leech, lazy, and is exactly the type of person that most right wing pundits mock for being liberal. He just doesn't see it or want to see it.
 
What's the consensus in the thread on the plagiarism matter? Do we think that Mr. Sweet legitimately never saw the Saturday Night Live sketch about TV ratings, and just happened to pick some of the same low-hanging joke fruit?

Has he ever republished the piece in question?
 
What's the consensus in the thread on the plagiarism matter? Do we think that Mr. Sweet legitimately never saw the Saturday Night Live sketch about TV ratings, and just happened to pick some of the same low-hanging joke fruit?

Has he ever republished the piece in question?

His relationship with the truth is fractured in so many other areas I'd be shocked if he were telling the truth about this.
 
What's the consensus in the thread on the plagiarism matter? Do we think that Mr. Sweet legitimately never saw the Saturday Night Live sketch about TV ratings, and just happened to pick some of the same low-hanging joke fruit?

Has he ever republished the piece in question?
I'm inclined to think that Sweet plagiarized for two reasons. Firstly, one of the "stop stalking me" emails asserts that Sweet initially confessed to plagiarism. Secondly, that Sweet was actually ejected from the paper for plagiarism seems to indicate that the similarities between his column and the SNL sketch must have been substantial, unless his coworkers were being wildly reckless, which hasn't been evidenced anywhere.
 
Yeah I mean if our options are "believe Jon Sweet" or "believe everyone else", well, everyone else doesn't have a track record of being a lying hypocritical loser, so there's that against him, plus the fact that the story seems to change with each telling...taking it all together, I know who I believe. :lol:
 
It's weird that his response was "the sketch doesn't exist," which is provably false (and was in the 1990s, if only by a phone call to the show's staff) rather than "I didn't see that episode, so similarities must be coincidental" (less easily proved false) in either case.

Although I agree with what people have said about it being more likely that Sweet ripped off the TV sketch, it's interesting to think that if the other kids were mistaken and he didn't plagiarize, he just made everything worse by his response to the situation.
 
What's the consensus in the thread on the plagiarism matter? Do we think that Mr. Sweet legitimately never saw the Saturday Night Live sketch about TV ratings, and just happened to pick some of the same low-hanging joke fruit?

Has he ever republished the piece in question?

Well, his former mentor reminded him in that e-mail that he admitted to plagiarizing the sketch. On the other hand he seems really pissed off about being accused of it.

I think what probably happened is that he plagiarized the sketch without intentionally doing so. Like, he saw the sketch, laughed, kind of forgot about it, then did the column thinking it was his original idea. This kind of thing actually happens more often then people think. Usually what happens is after being pointed out on it they acknowledge it, explain, issue an apology, and move on.
 
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Well, his former mentor reminded him in that e-mail that he admitted to plagiarizing the sketch. On the other hand he seems really pissed off about being accused of it.

I think what probably happened is that he plagiarized the sketch without intentionally doing so. Like, he saw the sketch, laughed, kind of forgot about it, then did the column thinking it was his original idea. This kind of thing actually happens more often then people think. Usually what happens is after being pointed out on it they acknowledge it, explain, issue an apology, and move on.

>Jonathan Sweet
>Move on

Pick one
 
From the Welcome to Lemora! site. I don't know the official date that this was posted, but it seems to be in celebration of Belch Dimension issue #25, released in 2007:

It's interesting. On that page, he posts a preview, and in it a cartoonist is drawing. And this comic-within-a-comic seems to demonstrate an understanding of clarity, space, etc. that we've been ragging on him for. Not sure if it's just a cut-and-paste job or if he actually has the awareness that other cartoonists draw like this:

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It's interesting. On that site, he posts a preview, and in it a cartoonist is drawing. And this comic-within-a-comic seems to demonstrate an understanding of clarity, space, etc. that we've been ragging on him for. Not sure if it's just a cut-and-paste job or if he actually has the awareness that other cartoonists draw like this:

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Fuck, I still can't even read his panels, my eyes keep looking outside of it because it's so fucking cluttered and his text so hard to read.
 
Fuck, I still can't even read his panels, my eyes keep looking outside of it because it's so fucking cluttered and his text so hard to read.
Heh, I feel you bro. (The thing I'm referring to is in the first panel, upper left.)

As I recall, Iconoclast chalks up the illegibility in the comics to a unique "charm" and his allegedly failing eyesight.

The drawing does have a particular charm, he just needs to find a better balance between that and readability. (But then again, finding balance isn't something he seems good at in general.)
 
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