🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Holdek said:
He says he won't talk to me anymore because he's received too much abuse from me.
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Hurtful truth level indeed...god he really is a coward no matter where he goes or what he does, isn't he? Like even on what amounts to his home turf he can't justify himself or his actions, can he?

How pitiful.
 
TheIceCreamMan said:
Hurtful truth level indeed...god he really is a coward no matter where he goes or what he does, isn't he? Like even on what amounts to his home turf he can't justify himself or his actions, can he?

How pitiful.
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Of course, he's undoubtedly still stalking the Farms so he can blubber on his DA and the Brony Patriot Forums about all the mean things we're saying about him (and then conveniently ignore anyone who tries to start a dialog with him about it). Just because he's afraid to talk to us doesn't mean he'll stop talking about us!
 
Shadow Fox said:
Of course, he's undoubtedly still stalking the Farms so he can blubber on his DA and the Brony Patriot Forums about all the mean things we're saying about him (and then conveniently ignore anyone who tries to start a dialog with him about it). Just because he's afraid to talk to us doesn't mean he'll stop talking about us!
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Oh yeah no doubt, there's not a possibility that he isn't muttering under his breath and he sits in the corner and pouts, talking about how we're all mean bullies and we're just out to get him for no reason and that we all need be wiped off the map and all the rest, just a bunch of endless white noise that he won't dare say out loud. Usually people act differently online than in person, generally more belligerent, but for some reason I'm strangely confident of his inability to stand up for himself in real life, either. :P
 
"You's be means to muh! I don' wanna tawk to youse naw more. Mama! Dem peoples on duh Innanet bein' means to muh!"
 

Thank you, Shadow Fox!

Man, this is sweet. This is Jon Thumb to a T. He comes to this thread a year (or a little less) after it's been up, throws around a bunch of insults, says some abZURD stuff about us, liberals, conservatives, blacks, women, and whatever else flies under his nail, acts as if he's the smartest guy in the room, and then runs off after he's been served the responses he richly deserved, most of which were comprised of logical, politely-worded arguments to several highly-dubious claims (especially from Holdek) - and yet he's been abused.

Oh, sure, it's not as if there weren't a couple of nasty names tossed his way (I consider "knuckle neck" a crowning achievement), but all of them were preceded by Jon's utter vitriol here on these forums, and in several of his blogs and comics from way back. The difference between those sites and here was that here, he wouldn't be able to control the responses as well. Oh, that and people were actually paying attention to him here. He can dish it out, but he sure can't take it.

Remember this nugget from way back?


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Well, now, hold on, Sweets, I thought this was fun! Now it's abuse? What's going on?

Very simple. Jon Sweet is an ass. A cowardly, ignorant, obviously mentally challenged, incompetent ass of the lowest degree. He's lazy, selfish, seemingly sociopathic, leech-like, entitled, bigoted, paranoid, and only engages in any kind of intellectual curiosity if it thinks it will gain him entrance into the pants of his fictional girlfriend, regardless of how she may feel about the situation (which she doesn't, because she's fictional). If his assery just ended at him exposing his crooked posterior at society and demanding they give him a big smooch, CWC-style, that would be one thing. But no, Sweet has engaged in both highly anti-social behavior, as well as criminal behavior, in order to get his way, only to fail pathetically, with a stint in the hoosegow being his only reward.

One of Jon's most overused defenses is his ability to make stuff up in order to justify his actions and demonize others, a trait that I rather stuffily have come to call "invents a narrative". Like I said before, this habit differs from lying. What Jon does is take fact and pervert it with false theory and perspective. "She lives with me," he once insisted about his living situation with his mother. This is essentially true, insofar as it's factual information presented subjectively. If NobleGreyHorse were to insist that Absinthe was "sitting next to me!" when I mentioned she was sitting next to him, she'd be making a subjectively true statement, but Noble is sitting next to the aisle while Absinthe is sitting next to the window can be objectively proven. Likewise, Mrs. Sweet is the head of the household, whereas Jon makes zero income, therefor, Jon lives with her, as in 'on her dime'. Generally speaking, Jon plays with perspective enough to get away with what he says, until his lips flap so much that he admits that he's on welfare, never had a paying job, etc.

Of course, Jon doesn't really admit things as much as he blatantly states them. This thread and his blogs have been inundated with his unvarnished declaration of his anti-social, disruptive behavior, which the reader is apparently supposed to ignore while buying Jon's whining completely. In the short six months of Jon's time at the ASU Herald, he repeatedly made a nuisance of himself, and not the cute and whimsical Dennis the Menace kind, either. He was just as much of dumb, hateful child there as he was here. And what happened? He was booted out, and went on to claim that the very people whom he wronged were the ones that "ruined his life".

Jon would go on to do the exact same thing here, treating others as if they were beneath him. We responded just as anyone would, and now, Jon has been subject to abuse. My friends and fellow Koalas, We Are All the ASU Herald.

The biggest problem that I can see is that when Jon invents his stories, he believes in them. This is dangerous, as he expects things to follow through as if he knows reality. There was no way that that guy at the Herald would've published Jon's shooped CP picture, but Jon bought into his own narrative that he would. He only burned the pic out of fear of being caught. This kind of inconceivable stupidity (or mental retardation, who knows) could get - and may have gotten - Sweet into a lot of trouble.

I have to honestly wonder if Jon isn't the ward of a conservatorship, maybe with his mother as his guardian (EDIT: I believe Holdek was the first to suggest something like this. Props, man!). That he doesn't control his own money is one thing, but then you have the inanity of the above quote. If we've been abusing Jon, it's abuse that he sought out, whether intentionally or not. He brought on his troubles himself, and blames them on others. We have seen that his entire adult life has been riddled with severe social problems. The guy can't go through any stretch of his life without either getting in trouble, or being stuck in some kind of situation that he can't get himself out of (getting home from a hospital, figuring out google, etc). Whether legally recognized or not, it's a given than someone other than Jon is making decisions for him in the Sweet household.
 
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He Sets Me On Fire said:
Thank you, Shadow Fox!

Man, this is sweet. This is Jon Thumb to a T. He comes to this thread a year (or a little less) after it's been up, throws around a bunch of insults, says some abZURD stuff about us, liberals, conservatives, blacks, women, and whatever else flies under his nail, acts as if he's the smartest guy in the room, and then runs off after he's been served the responses he richly deserved, most of which were comprised of logical, politely-worded arguments to several highly-dubious claims (especially from Holdek) - and yet he's been abused.

Oh, sure, it's not as if there weren't a couple of nasty names tossed his way (I consider "knuckle neck" a crowning achievement), but all of them were preceded by Jon's utter vitriol here on these forums, and in several of his blogs and comics from way back. The difference between those sites and here was that here, he wouldn't be able to control the responses as well. Oh, that and people were actually paying attention to him here. He can dish it out, but he sure can't take it.

Remember this nugget from way back?


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Well, now, hold on, Sweets, I thought this was fun! Now it's abuse? What's going on?

Very simple. Jon Sweet is an ass. A cowardly, ignorant, obviously mentally challenged, incompetent ass of the lowest degree. He's lazy, selfish, seemingly sociopathic, leech-like, entitled, bigoted, paranoid, and only engages in any kind of intellectual curiosity if it thinks it will gain him entrance into the pants of his fictional girlfriend, regardless of how she may feel about the situation (which she doesn't, because she's fictional). If his assery just ended at him exposing his crooked posterior at society and demanding they give him a big smooch, CWC-style, that would be one thing. But no, Sweet has engaged in both highly anti-social behavior, as well as criminal behavior, in order to get his way, only to fail pathetically, with a stint in the hoosegow being his only reward.

One of Jon's most overused defenses is his ability to make stuff up in order to justify his actions and demonize others, a trait that I rather stuffily have come to call "invents a narrative". Like I said before, this habit differs from lying. What Jon does is take fact and pervert it with false theory and perspective. "She lives with me," he once insisted about his living situation with his mother. This is essentially true, insofar as it's factual information presented subjectively. If NobleGreyHorse were to insist that Absinthe was "sitting next to me!" if I mentioned she was sitting next to him, she'd be making a subjectively true statement, but that Noble is sitting next to the aisle while Absinthe is sitting next to the window can be objectively proven. Likewise, Mrs. Sweet is the head of the household, whereas Jon makes zero income, therefor, Jon lives with her, as in 'on her dime'. Generally speaking, Jon plays with perspective enough to get away with what he says, until his lips flap so much that he admits that he's on welfare, never had a paying job, etc.

Of course, Jon doesn't really admit things as much as he blatantly states them. This thread and his blogs have been inundated with his unvarnished declaration of his anti-social, disruptive behavior, which the reader is apparently supposed to ignore while buying Jon's whining completely. In the short six months of Jon's time at the ASU Herald, he repeatedly made a nuisance of himself, and not the cute and whimsical Dennis the Menace kind, either. He was just as much of dumb, hateful child there as he was here. And what happened? He was booted out, and went on to claim that the very people whom he wronged were the ones that "ruined his life".

Jon would go on to do the exact same thing here, treating others as if they were beneath him. We responded just as anyone would, and now, Jon has been subject to abuse. My friends and fellow Koalas, We Are All the ASU Herald.

The biggest problem that I can see is that when Jon invents his stories, he believes in them. This is dangerous, as he expects things to follow through as if he knows reality. There was no way that that guy at the Herald would've published Jon's shooped CP picture, but Jon bought into his own narrative that he would. He only burned the pic out of fear of being caught. This kind of inconceivable stupidity (or mental retardation, who knows) could - and probably has - get Sweet into a lot of trouble.

I have to honestly wonder if Jon isn't the ward of a conservatorship, maybe with his mother as his guardian (EDIT: I believe Holdek was the first suggest something like this. Props, man!). That he doesn't control his own money is one thing, but then you have the inanity of the above quote. I've we've been abusing Jon, it's abuse that he sought out, whether intentionally or not. He brought on his troubles himself, and blames them on others. We have seen that his entire adult life has been riddled with severe social problems. The guy can't go through any stretch of his life without either getting in trouble, or being stuck in some kind of situation that he can't get himself out of (getting home from a hospital, figuring out google, etc). Whether legally recognized or not, it's a given than someone other than Jon is making decisions for him in the Sweet household.
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He comes here and acts like an ass. Then he leaves and posts on DA and AJM misrepresentative paraphrases of what we've written (along with hyperlinks in those paraphrases to our posts).

At some point I suggest he see a doctor and suddenly I'm the Greene County School Board trying to institutionalize him. What's funny is, while I've criticized the guy aplenty, I'm probably the most "white knightish" one here toward him, if you want to call it that.

But to hell with that now.
 
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Holdek said:
He comes here and acts like an ass. Then he leaves and posts on DA and AJM misrepresentative paraphrases of what we've written (along with hyperlinks in those paraphrases to our posts).

At some point suggest he see a doctor and suddenly I'm the Greene County School Board trying to institutionalize him. What's funny is, while I've criticized the guy aplenty, I'm probably the most "white knightish" one here toward him, if you want to call it that.

But to hell with that now.
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Absolutely true. Not just true, but factual. Oh, and by the way, when I wrote "especially from Holdek", what I mean was that you were being particularly graceful and kind with him, not the "highly-dubious claims" part. Just wanted to make sure you knew.

Come to think, there were a number of people on here who interacted with Jon with far more patience and thoughtfulness than I would. You folks are really cool, honestly.
 
He Sets Me On Fire said:
Oh, and by the way, when I wrote "especially from Holdek", what I mean was that you were being particularly graceful and kind with him, not the "highly-dubious claims" part. Just wanted to make sure you knew.
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Oh, no, I understood. "Highly-dubious claims" fits Jon like a (thumbless) glove.
 
Holdek said:
He comes here and acts like an ass. Then he leaves and posts on DA and AJM misrepresentative paraphrases of what we've written (along with hyperlinks in those paraphrases to our posts).

At some point suggest he see a doctor and suddenly I'm the Greene County School Board trying to institutionalize him. What's funny is, while I've criticized the guy aplenty, I'm probably the most "white knightish" one here toward him, if you want to call it that.

But to hell with that now.
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I notice he became particularly evasive when you brought up the fact he's on welfare over at AJM. I think he's tried to position himself as some kind of Conservative guru over there, so the fact that he gets a tugboat is probably pretty illusion-shattering.

Iconoclastic, even.
 
He Sets Me On Fire said:
Absolutely true. Not just true, but factual. Oh, and by the way, when I wrote "especially from Holdek", what I mean was that you were being particularly graceful and kind with him, not the "highly-dubious claims" part. Just wanted to make sure you knew.

Come to think, there were a number of people on here who interacted with Jon with far more patience and thoughtfulness than I would. You folks are really cool, honestly.
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I freely admit I lost any right to pretend that I was fair and balanced when I went ham on him earlier in this thread, when his racism just caught up to me. I know I probably should have had a thicker skin and not let him get a rise out of me but unlike him I care deeply about my family (even if 9 times out of 10 we don't see eye to eye on things) and I just couldn't let a turd like him get away with it for another minute. :lol: But yeah @Holdek you've been much more charitable than he deserves or even common decency warrants, since that relies upon the recipient returning the favor and Jonny 5 isn't capable of being grateful or even civil without sounding magnanimous and haughty.
 
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