I dont get why so many hate anime?

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That guy was doxxed on Twitter for his take on Dandadan, had his old accounts hacked and they posted csem all over it. I think he's cringe but the reactions he got after that and today are still shocking. BTW that event gave us the term hood weeb, which is a great term
 
I've never gotten what's wrong with "Moe" anyway... at least in some iterations. I mean, Lucky Star was adorable.

I never liked a lot of those other shows though, again same deal as with mecha... when I tried to watch Azumanga Daioh I felt like it was just proto-Lucky Star. I've heard it gets better later on but the first three episodes are kinda boring. I tried to watch K-On but it was also just... kinda boring. I don't blame the artstyle, just that I don't need multiple shows that are all essentially the same thing. Lucky Star got into my life first, so it got me.

But I mean, considering one reason I started hating western cartoons is they began preferring aggressively ugly art (Ren and Stimpy for example) I can't complain about moe art.
Lucky star and azumanga daioh fall into the type of sense of humor you'd need to appreciate shit like seinfeld or the better garfield comics but with goofy little characters. Anyone who cooms to that has a serious mental disease and deserves infinite mockery. I do remember not really liking K-on but most of the shit I watched back then that wasn't DBZ or funny western animations was shit like this:

Video games are part of the anime life style. When I say anime I'm not specifically talking about just animated TV series from Japan. I'm talking the comics, the music, the video games and the places people meet. It's an all encompassing life style. Life style anime is different to watching an episode of bleach each week and getting on with life.

I think you said you were new to anime compared to the rest of us so you're still in the honeymoon phase. As time goes on you will want to take breaks from it and try other things. But the internet doesn't allow that any more. It's very hard to interact online without anime creeping into it. Even if it's just anime avatars or jokes about sexual things you know come from the anime side of things. If we could escape the anime influence we wouldn't be so annoyed by it.
I was glad that a few posts ago you started breaking out of the reddit cloutseeking blinders and actually giving your opinions on stuff going south in terms of media, but roping video games into it now is just back to the faux puritanism shit, stop that lmao
 
I've never gotten what's wrong with "Moe" anyway... at least in some iterations. I mean, Lucky Star was adorable.
If you can't see the problem with grown men watching cartoons about little girls, with sexual content often thrown in then there's no helping you.
I was glad that a few posts ago you started breaking out of the reddit cloutseeking blinders and actually giving your opinions on stuff going south in terms of media, but roping video games into it now is just back to the faux puritanism shit, stop that lmao
Grow up and stop watching cartoons. You haven't learned a thing from the thread and the second someone says something against your tranimes you say "it's reddit" or the other shit you keep repeating. You have no argument because you're a soulless weirdo.
 
I'm not gonna treat a guy that's around the same age as me as some kinda cyber daddy to take advice from,
Null's not my e-daddy -- I think almost all of his political opinions are retarded, bigoted, and conspiratorial -- and I don't listen to MATI outside random clips that get posted here that I find interesting.
I'm especially not going to treat an offhand funny statement while talking about internet drama as a 100% serious life altering thing
It wasn't a joke and I'm not treating it as a life-altering serious statement. I just think it's a good point about how anime can cause people to reject their friends, family, culture and future for a cheaply-made product aimed at the lowest common denominator.
If you throw aside shit you like to chase coochie you're going to end up fucking miserable because that means your relationship is not built upon a genuine foundation.
I know that, but there's a difference between throwing aside stuff you like and changing your lifestyle for the better. This is like telling a fat person that eating fewer cheeseburgers and going to the gym to get healthier and maybe attract a partner is throwing aside a lifestyle they enjoy.
Also you have a LEGO name and pfp which makes the talk about people being an "overgrown teenager" over liking cartoons funny to me.
So? Lego is my creative outlet, just like other people have stuff like drawing and writing. Watching anime isn't creative; it's just consooming, and there's no creativity in that.
I've never gotten what's wrong with "Moe" anyway... at least in some iterations. I mean, Lucky Star was adorable.
The problem with moe is that it's a black hole of creativity that has strong ties to lolicon. The earliest moe anime can all be traced back to lolicon. Southern Cross was initially pitched by a guy who made loli diaper hentai (yes really). The idols and bridge bunnies in Macross were dogwhistles to the lolicon crowd, as was Megazone 23's focus on bishojo. Puru was named after the preeminent lolicon magazine of the time (Elpeo Puru = Elpeo Ple = L. People = Lemon People). Some of the earliest non-hentai OVAs (Iczer-1, Zeorymer) were adaptations of loli hentai manga. Project A-Ko, one of the most popular early anime in the West, was an SFW version of Cream Lemon with comedy instead of sex scenes. Kenichi Sonoda, the guy behind the Bubblegum Crisis and Gall Force characters, was a lolicon whose manga, Gunsmith Cats, included heavy lesbian BDSM elements. Gunbuster pandered to lolicons and sex pests a lot in its marketing and content; it's about high school girls and there's lots of nudity. Eventually all of this began to metastasize and take over anime when 50-episode toy commercials weren't as profitable as 12-episode seasonals, which stemmed from OVAs (you can see this because many early seasonal anime like Virus Buster Serge were clearly planned to be OVAs at first). Now seasonal anime is the default, and the Haruhi Suzumiya/Lucky Star/K-On explosion guaranteed all seasonal anime would be moe since it's cheap and wildly profitable.
I think he's cringe but the reactions he got after that and today are still shocking.
He's a proud lolicon defender who beat his girlfriend with a rake and tried to choke her. A-Logging is gay, but he deserves scrutiny.
Anyone who cooms to that has a serious mental disease and deserves infinite mockery.
I agree, but cooming was the intent. The author of Azumanga Daioh started out drawing Evangelion porn, and the manga has several jokes about the girls' breasts and other sexually-charged stuff. K-On had an unusual focus on the girls' feet. I haven't seen Lucky Star but I've heard it has a really uncomfortable bath scene.
 
I'm not gonna treat a guy that's around the same age as me as some kinda cyber daddy to take advice from
NO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO MY E-DADDY HE SAYS THING BAD AND I AGREE SO YOU CAN'T ENJOY IT ANYMORE!!!!!!
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If you can't see the problem with grown men watching cartoons about little girls, with sexual content often thrown in then there's no helping you.
There's no sexual content in Lucky Star.

Grow up and stop watching cartoons.
You know, there was a time when playing video games, reading comics, or reading science fiction novels were all considered "for children" too.

If we all stopped doing things just because of the perception its below our age range, the world would be boring.

I haven't seen Lucky Star but I've heard it has a really uncomfortable bath scene.
Oh for fucks sake. In the scene in question you never see the girls below their shoulders so there's not even anything to coom to (unless the mere idea of a naked girl is all it takes... and I'd say that's a you thing)... and most of it is them talking science stuff about what genes determine your hair color, then Konata imitates an old commercial.

See, dude.... some of your examples make sense to be creeped out by (I have, in fact, seen a lot of those OVAs you mentioned and in some cases seen manga scans). But being skeeved by Lucky Star is like being skeeved by an episode of Care Bears, or by that one educational Disney short about periods.

Actually, its kind of impressive to me that the standard here seems to be just talking about certain subjects (I believe either you or shiverspear was saying Slayers is degenerate because Lina's insecurities about her breast size... even though the show itself never actually shows nudity). Is that seriously the standard here? Acknowledging breasts exist is degenerate now? This brings to mind questions proposed by me and Lawgiver previously: do you guys think Inspector Gadget is safe? Or Rainbow Brite? Or Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers?

I hope you guys never have to actually raise a daughter. Because I think you'd be pretty much on edge the entire time. I've merely babysat and there was a lot I had to get used to quickly.
 
NO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO MY E-DADDY HE SAYS THING BAD AND I AGREE SO YOU CAN'T ENJOY IT ANYMORE!!!!!!
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Exactly don't you understand a man who hasn't lived in a country he can speak the language of in years and has no actual hobbies is the be-all and end-all source of all information.

In all seriousness I'm a millennial who has worked jobs with various racial, socioeconomic demographics, and age groups while also engaging in playing various TCGs and anime is not some weird ass niche hobby. While one would be correct by saying not everyone is massively into anime people still do watch it. The more casual person will watch the hottest new things, things they grew up with, or just various things that interest them. I have even played anime card games with married couples with kids who have normal jobs. It's just another form of entertainment like video games at this point.

This site has its own bubble of thinking and it's not always going to be in line what the common person thinks. Also if you truly think anime is degenerate/evil why are you on a site where multiple mods are open fans of it and where there is a massive vtuber thread?
 
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Too much anime has fan service. I don't sit down and put on something to stare at titties or watch fictional characters having sex. Pornographic content is also a problem in film and TV shows, but it's less prevalent now because they're seen as mature art forms. Most anime is targeted toward teenagers or NEETs.
 
My experience with anime started courtesy of Toonami on Cartoon Network in the late 90s and early 00s. Dragonball Z was fun but stupid as they stood around for fifteen minutes looking horrified while their opponent spent that time looking like they had to shit the biggest brick ever. I loved the mechas and the space battles of Gundam Wing even if the characters and dialogue could be...overwrought, shall we say? Like...a lot overwrought. But the plot was at least solid. The last 'actual' anime I watched and mostly enjoyed was Fullmetal Alchemist. I don't go out of my way to find anime to watch, but if there's something about the art style, or it involves mechs, or sci-fi space battles, I'll at least give it a few minutes of my time...as long as it's dubbed.

For me, the biggest issue with anime is when it comes in its native language. I dunno what it is, but the Japanese language to me is the equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard. One of my ideas of entertainment hell is being forced to watch anime in its original Japanese--I don't even care if it has subtitles or not, I don't want to listen to that.
 
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Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune are cousins retard nigger
My experience with anime started courtesy of Toonami on Cartoon Network in the late 90s and early 00s. Dragonball Z was fun but stupid as they stood around for fifteen minutes looking horrified while their opponent spent that time looking like they had to shit the biggest brick ever. I loved the mechas and the space battles of Gundam Wing even if the characters and dialogue could be...overwrought, shall we say? Like...a lot overwrought. But the plot was at least solid. The last 'actual' anime I watched and mostly enjoyed was Fullmetal Alchemist. I don't go out of my way to find anime to watch, but if there's something about the art style, or it involves mechs, or sci-fi space battles, I'll at least give it a few minutes of my time...as long as it's dubbed.

For me, the biggest issue with anime is when it comes in its native language. I dunno what it is, but the Japanese language to me is the equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard. One of my ideas of entertainment hell is being forced to watch anime in its original Japanese--I don't even care if it has subtitles or not, I don't want to listen to that.
I kinda wanna add to this but this is the problem I have with English Dubs in general since you mentioned language. First off transitioning a language isolate to a West Germanic language isn't going to be 1 to 1 in terms of words and dialogue so some changes are going to be made. But Japanese is much more formal than English by nature so when reading it, it sounds off, at least in subs mostly. The problems I have with English dubs is that it sounds bland and monotone. It sounds like they are trying to stick too close to the Japanese or just reading off the script with not enough emotion or passion.
 
It sounds like they are trying to stick too close to the Japanese or just reading off the script with not enough emotion or passion.
They are 100% not trying to stick with the japanese, especially in modern dubs the last 8-10 years or so. They have no passion and hate the actual artform itself these days, which is why some people that wouldn't otherwise stated switching to pirated subs.
A lot of english dubs have become infinitely more wordy than they need to be where the direct translated sub will be like one sentence but the sentence uttered in the dub will be 10 extra filler words, I noticed this like a few years back when I tried checking out that dragonball super thing due to being occasionally told it was actually ok. Didn't watch the whole thing through and probably won't ever but from what I saw of it like you'd have basically them just cramming in lines where there as like a 2 or 3 word sentence at times. This kind of weird word vomit rot's spread to video games too, the new paper mario TTYD HD is nefarious for that shit, and it's ONLY the english version that's in. That one's written dialogue too!
 
A solid 80-90% of multimedia is just pure shit, with the majority of the rest just being an acceptable quality. It goes for movies, music, TV shows, books, anime, basically every form of entertainment. It's a bit silly to say that all movies are bad when there's a lot of really good film out there from across the ages, so it would be more accurate to say that all modern capeshit slop is bad. The same goes for anime, it's almost all shit and is deserving of derision, but sieving out everything involving waifus or power fantasies and there's some reasonably watchable stuff left. The good anime will just never reach the ears of anyone outside of their own corner of the internet, especially given how degenerate the community is. They're rightfully cordoned off as a community containment zone, and any ride or die weeb who breaches containment should be shot for their own good (Be quick though, or else he'll cut you into pieces with his katana)
 

I dont get why so many hate anime​

Back in the day, it was due to anime being an emerging niche product akin to gayming.

Now, that anime has become mainstream, the loudest unironic vitriol comes from terminally online tryhads or people who got lost on their way to /a/, but I'm repeating myself.
 
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For me, the biggest issue with anime is when it comes in its native language. I dunno what it is, but the Japanese language to me is the equivalent of fingernails on a chalkboard. One of my ideas of entertainment hell is being forced to watch anime in its original Japanese--I don't even care if it has subtitles or not, I don't want to listen to that.

Japanese people can be annoying to listen to, but they're better than voice actors for English dubs. All of them have the same hammy performance.
 
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Japanese people can be annoying to listen to, but they're better than voice actors for English dubs. All of them have the same hammy performance.
When I was younger I preferred English dubs because my reading wasn't as good, but as an adult I'll 99% of the time prefer subs.

One major exception is with this movie I watched as a kid, Magical Princess Gigi (a dub of one of the Fairy Princess Minky Momo movies). That dub was by Harmony Gold... and say what you will about HG and later on, Streamline Pictures.... Carl Macek's voice actors were good. Like I'm always impressed by how natural they sound to the point where it feels like the movie was made in English to begin with.

The other thing though is oftentimes whenever I watch the original, I start to find the dub unbearable. In this case I'd rather that not happen so I just don't watch Japanese.

Another thing is if the movie has too much going on. The last half of Evangelion moves so fast for example that both watching it and reading subtitles is impossible for me, so I watch dubbed. Similar deal for Akira.
 
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