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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Weeks of combing through files and this is the most they can find?
I expect more will come out now that they've arrested him. The misconduct (really insider trading) is a pretext charge so they can conduct a detailed search of his property and files. Sort of thing they do to big baz when they want to pin something on him, but adjusted for his station. He's getting the same treatment as the plebs he lorded over for so long.
 
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Conspiracy thought I had recently. The Amelia meme is popular with the kids at the moment. Did the propaganda unit intentionally release a game they knew would be subverted. So the face of "British nationalism" is now danger haired Ramona flowers look alike? Worth considering.
I can ask around the office if you like, see if anyone made it.
Genuinely though, It's getting really hard to tell these days what's a gayop and what's people just being retarded and own goaling. People having been fucking it that hard. Maybe they just got arrogant and sloppy.
The Remain campaign basically devolved into "FUCK GAMMONS, IMMIGRANTS GOOD, KILL YOURSELF PLEBS".
It's pretty much been stuck like that ever since which is pretty depressing to be honest. Those stupid anti racist facebook pages are a pretty good example of this. Not that I think they're actually run by real people and not some "Media Outreach" officer in some party office somewhere.
their federal states are based on distinct historical regions.
Federalising the UK and giving each state a National Guard would be worth it just to see the resulting Lancashire-Yorkshire border clashes.
Far too many people I know take the attitude that they never have to change their behaviour when there's children around, despite the fact that children will regard most adults as role models for what is acceptable behaviour.
I think it comes down to the fact that no one young these days wants any kind of responsibility. Even acting like a role model for children is too much responsibility for them. It's the same reason they have no drive to actually achieve anything, achieving something comes with responsibility.
Back already Welshy? Can't help put post the Reform propaganda can we?
According to the skibi toilet's profile this is the person behind the Made in Wales account.

There's articles about him getting death threats online and someone spitting on him on the BBC.

The autistic loop of "Labour are bad, we must remove labour" he always goes on is repeated on the Twitter account he uses. I haven't checked his facebook or linkdin. I assume the same thing there. He's in a lot of videos with Farage and saying how much he supports Farage in any platform he can speak.

Odds are it's Welshy. I don't wish him any harm, he's a sperg but a funny one. I just find the picture of Farage holding a really badly done sign next to a shrunken egg with a soy beard to be funny. He doesn't take a good picture and he lets wogs stand in front of him in photo ops.
MiW is so close to qualifying for his own thread in my opinion. If he's actually a political activist who's sperged on the Farms, left because people called him out on his shite then came back under an alt account, that is 100% lolcow behavior.
I liked watching my dad play Rome Total War
I used to watch my dad play Medieval II Total War. It's probably contributed to my love of Napoleon Total War (I love the Sharpe novels).
 
I hope the "Blood rain" is as cool as it sounds. Probably just be more dirt from sand nigger land though.

I've seen that before! It's pretty cool! Nature is bloody incredible at times. And yes it's sand from nigger land but it's a pretty interesting natural phenomenon.

And on the Yorkshire -Lancashire thing. I once saw a bloke in Morrisons kicking off because they had Yorkshire tea and Lancashire tea (apparently that's a thing? I'd imagine it tastes rank, if nothing else cos I've never had a decent brew in Lancashire,ever, and I lived there for 18 months. It must be the water) next to each other on the shelf. He was banging on about "it ain't natural, ahm telling thee".
 
I give you exhibit A:
I think I said it in the ai thread but genuinely the invention of ai has been the most fun I've had on a computer since the invention of racial slurs. Do you ever just stop to look at the absurdity of life? We're sat here on a forum dedicated to a man who had sex with an xbox and a lump of clay ran by a cheese fetishing foot licker watching a video made entirely by the magical jewish lightning rocks of a failed attempt at government propaganda that everyone decided to thirst over instead singing about some 90 year old fella like he's a porn star. What the fuck is life? Now we just need a version that's closer to British folk music instead of being closest to the genre full of slop pumped out by paedophiles jews and jeets.
Cute is cute I don't discriminate
Pretty much every depiction of Amelia has been attractive. Even if she's not your type you can't say she isn't attractive. The fucking prompt probably specifies 'attractive'. Idk I look at goth women and shit and it's like yea I don't personally find you attractive but that doesn't mean you are not attractive. Idk people just conflate 'ugly' and 'not my type' all the time.
people in their 20s will struggle HARD.
There was this one absolute fucking retard in our school that got confused at tasks like 'close the window' on a computer. There were people who would be sat there and honestly Terry's parrot probably had a better idea on how to use a computer than them. Maybe it only had little parrot ideas but at least it had ideas and thoughts and brain activity in some manner. It was just cringe. That's the only word for it. None of them were literally retarded, just that they're retarded enough that they could probably be diagnosed with just general learning difficulties. The teacher would tell them the most simplest of shit and they'd just look at the computer screen like it was listening to the teacher and would do it for them. They'd press 'W.....O......R......D' while on the desktop by prodding the keys with one finger like a grandma and expect it to open on it's own and shit like that. Just absolutely baffling. You'd be sat near one of them and genuinely the only word to describe how it felt is just cringe. Idk if I'm turning into salsa and his hate for the disabled but I'm sat here just remembering being stuck near to someone who had to look at the mouse to know which button the left click was and it's making me feel sick.
Nowt wrong with that.
Unless you have a dog breed known for being very fluffy (gets very wet) and also known for randomly flopping onto you instead of staying on her towel to finish drying off. I love cuddling with my 6ft tall sentient wet sponge of a dog.
There are some kids who first used a PC in 2014 who are using a PC in 2026 and just assume that's what a PC does, they don't understand specs and if they did, they're not running the type of programs that you'd see a difference between hardware.
There was one guy that would constantly brag about tech and the things he owned. He'd brag he got a new laptop and it was cool because it looks so cool and scifi and it's really thin and it had this cool new feature where it can make emojis of you using the webcam woah!!!!!!! But most of our friend group stuck together from playing pc games together. So one day one of us asked him like yea cool but what's it's specs? What's your pc like, what gpu and cpu and how much ram? And he just froze. He didn't even know what that meant. He just tried saying 'oh it can run minecraft' and other basic things. It wasn't even meant to be mean or anything, my friend was just genuinely interested and was considering upgrading to something similar. We all shittalked him behind his back after because who the fuck buys a computer if they don't know what it can even do. It was very reminiscent of my mother, she was amazed that I built a pc as if it isn't just a case of following basic instructions, there is no white person incapable of learning how to and going through with doing it. She didn't know that it's just a bunch of interchangeable parts stuck together in a box. To her and the other guy a computer isn't a gpu and cpu and ram and a drive on a motherboard, it's just a computer. A car isn't a transmission and a gearbox and an engine, it's just a car. You can tell which kids were allowed free access to the screwdrivers and which weren't. I see it a fair amount, an item isn't made of smaller things, it is made of one big thing that cannot be changed in any way. Even food where the whole point is to take a recipe and tweak it to your tastes, people just make the recipe and decide they don't like it because they didn't like that specific recipe and never tried to change it to something they'd like.
 
2. Reasonable but stuff you’ve got to get over: stuff like exams, the dark, climbing a tree. That’s the sort do stuff it’s GOOD for kids to challenge and overcome and you also need to understand WHY you’re scared. Of heights? Then climb well.
Isn't this what the younger generation call "anxiety" ?

This is the problem as you outlined earlier - their parents never expanded the boundaries of the nest at all. It is exactly this understanding and gradual independence that is crucial. Whilst I find it amusing to an extent how pathetic and whiny I perceive the anxious class to be, I also feel sorry for them, because clearly you must be pretty isolated if you have nobody you can talk to about your fears and then advise you about the dangers and give advice to overcome them.

Perhaps that is the problem, the parents, for whatever reason, aren't doing their job in giving that advice. I know my olds ( and friends ) would advise me on anything I was worried about. That could be a motivational chat, technical advice or just a good old fashioned bollocking to get out there and do my best at it.

You have to learn to live in the uncomfortable. anxious zone occasionally, otherwise - no progress, if anything actual retardation. Whenever I feel anxious or nervous about doing something, I usually remember the King Solomon "and this too shall pass" or the poem Invictus.
 
I'll preface this by saying we agree to the idea that parents have a responsibility but disagree on definition of ideas.
Polite, not respectful. Respect is earned. You can be polite and civil to someone on meeting them, before they earn your respect. Expecting to be "respected" upon meeting someone is a niggerish value, not a British one.
I agree. By respectful, i mean broader picture, encompassing everything. Respect to their environment, to nature, to the order and way of things. If you pull up a tree, plant two more, that kind of idea.

Respect as a personality trait is learned and then earned.

Well read ? That I would have thought is one of the key responsibilities of a teacher !
Not quite. The quest for knowledge has been robbed of all but the smallest of people. Inquiring minds no longer exist in anything but the absolute minority.
Well read - or for people who don't learn by reading, well skilled, means that the child wants to know more, wants to learn more and is the definition of education; the quest for knowledge.

If someone has to have a teacher teach them to be well read then has that person got the desire to learn? If not, do they have the desire to 'do'?
Part of the failing with our education system is that it shoves people into a box full of other people and forces them to learn in one style; reading and writing. Very few classes - even 30 years ago, taught actual skills. We had woodworking, metal working, home ecc, etc but it was to tickle a fancy.

Fearless ? WTF. Is it the parents' job to produce brave and fearless individuals ?
Yes. Fearless to stand up in front of others, to speak out when you are right, not to be silence (this sounds very tranny coded, sorry). To dare to fail. To stand up to the bully, get put on your arse and stand up again. To swing your dick and shoot your shot. To not be ruled by fear; of failure, or pain, of new experiences.

A timid and shy child will be eaten up in the real world.
Mandy Pandy arrested on suspicion of misconduct in office.

BBC live thing
Torygraph (archive, GA)
Coincidental timing with the Streeting rumour? Was Keir told to bin streeting before mandelson leaked streeting the dirt?
 
And then... it stopped. We realised it was impossible to make microchips any smaller any time soon (maybe in 10+ years or so we might see advancements) so technology just stagnated with all the R&D going instead into optimisation, making the same technology produce less power etc. If you showed me 2026 tech and said "This is 2013 tech" I could believe you. Phones look the same as they did in 2013, video game graphics haven't had a revolutionary change in over 10 years, every piece of software you use is almost indistinguishable from 2013 etc.

The issue is that our technology has essentially plateaued in a lot of areas. There was a podcast/interview I watched a while back between Lex Fridman and John Carmack a while back that touched on exactly what you're talking about. I'm too busy to go back through that 5 hour interview to find the specific spot, but Carmack mentioned that dimensions on chips have shrunk to the point to where we have actually witnessed quantum tunneling, or in this case, electrons hopping across contacts in ways it theoretically shouldn't be able to under our conventional understanding of physics. The smaller the die, the more often it occurs, to the point where it creates frequency noise that is just accepted as a byproduct to be brute-forced though. I, as you might have figured, am not an expert in quantum physics, so this is just my understanding as explained by someone more intelligent then myself. The interview as a whole is an interesting listen, Jon Carmack is an absolute well of knowledge and does an okay job at explaining things to those who aren't as intimately familiar with a subject. His QuakeCon keynotes and college lectures are also good listens, the man can talk for hours.

EDIT: Found it, it was actually a clip from his Joe Rogan interview. Leaving the other video up as a curiosity anyways.



We're at the point where we can theorize and make hypotheticals, but our understanding and application of material sciences and physics needs a massive relevation before we can even hope to reach those old advancement trends. Our generation was spoiled by how quickly we got to witness technology trends change. Technology had evolved alarmingly fast in the last 25 years or so, in a period of a few hundred years where mankind has developed faster than the rest of its collective existence.
 
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While that would be incredibly funny I doubt any politician would be posting on the forums
I kind of suspect RACISM to be a politician, he disappeared for the general election.
Maybe he's David Lammy when he gets drunk and gives into the shame and guilt.

edit: If I saw such a stupid face every time I walked pass a mirror, I'd be dropping hard-Rs 24/7.
 
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It's kind of funny how back in the 90s everyone had a printer but now it seems that nobody does. Everyone just collectively realised that inkjet printers were dogshit and they didn't really have the room for a full toner printer to print a bank statement out once every three years.
I still have a printer and use it regularly. If you play card games or tabletop stuff they're useful. I hate relying on my phone for stats and I feel rude looking at it. I'd rather just print my stuff out and have a sheet in front of me.
Just like the Andrew shit, I see this being nothing but media sensationalism. I mean there's far more meat with Mandleson than Andrew but these just feel like show trials where they don't really have anything specific on them so just throw the most pathetic charge at them in the hope they incriminate themselves into something bad.
It'll be slaps on the wrist for both of them. No one is going to seriously go after child molesters in this country. If they did they would end up in a body bag within a week. The pedos are in control and they're willing to kill any one who tries to out them.
 
The issue is that our technology has essentially plateaued in a lot of areas. There was a podcast/interview I watched a while back between Lex Fridman and John Carmack a while back that touched on exactly what you're talking about. I'm too busy to go back through that 5 hour interview to find the specific spot, but Carmack mentioned that dimensions on chips have shrunk to the point to where we have actually witnessed quantum tunneling, or in this case, electrons hopping across contacts in ways it theoretically shouldn't be able to under our conventional understanding of physics. The smaller the die, the more often it occurs, to the point where it creates frequency noise that is just accepted as a byproduct to be brute-forced though. I, as you might have figured, am not an expert in quantum physics, so this is just my understanding as explained by someone more intelligent then myself. The interview as a whole is an interesting listen, Jon Carmack is an absolute well of knowledge and does an okay job at explaining things to those who aren't as intimately familiar with a subject. His QuakeCon keynotes and college lectures are also good listens, the man can talk for hours.

Massive John Carmack fan. Bonus points for being a geek but getting buff and driving a Ferrari. Extra (chk) bonus (chk) points for (chk) having a (chk) speech impediment (chk). He's a great teacher and anyone who has messed around with a bit of computer programming or 3D Modeling can take something from his "lectures".

The issue is that our technology has essentially plateaued in a lot of areas.

The period from around 1950 I think it was to something like 1975, let's say, saw as much industrial output and scientific advancement as the previous 150 years. Since then, it's tailed off. Still no cure for cancer and pretty sure we won't see one now. Middle of last Century? You wouldn't have bet against it.

As for computing. Computers kind of hit the wall a good decade back at least. But there was a triple whammy that kind of made it all the more impactful.

1: Moore's law stagnating.
2: Tech companies finally being able to take advantage of their monopoly status once achieved.
3: Governments finally bringing about their advantage in their quest to "Master the Internet".

First, Moore's Law, sure you can argue the toss over it. Have at it. But generally speaking things did slow down. Moore's Law is applied not just to CPU speed - it is applied also to hard disk space and also RAM storage. It used to be you could get a double sized hard disk for the same price or cheaper every few years, ditto RAM. Well, now, what with the AI bubble, that is no longer the case. In fact, we are seeing what is probably the beginning of the end of general purpose personal computing for the average person, especially if big tech gets its way.

As CPU die sizes got smaller, heat became more of a problem, so they got around that by adding more dies on to the chip. Another advantage was they could start adding stuff like GPU's on the chip design. But yeah, all that concentrated power, whilst technically needing less electricity to generate, caused massive spikes in cooling requirement because it was all concentrated in an ever smaller space.

And that worked for a while too, but we are kind of up against the edge of it now with that as well. The same roughly goes for hard disk space and RAM. I know there are advances being made, but they are ever more expensive and volatile from a stability and reliability viewpoint, then of course there is the cost...

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Second, Tech companies finally being able to take advantage of their long game monopoly play. These companies worked for years at a loss and crushed all competition until they were the only game in town. They did it in tandem with government approval. And then one day, some time around [CURRENT YEAR] there we were, and here we are. Looking at you Google et al.

The consolidation of their power came in many forms. Not least the H-1B scam which although it had been a thing for a decade or two previous, really started to pick up steam around then. Alternative search companies had been bought out and snuffed out, and Google for example, went from being the best search engine to well, what can you say? All of a sudden, entire chunks of the internet went missing. Google did actually used to work pretty good, but by [CURRENT YEAR] again, it was all downhill from there.

It wasn't just Google of course, they were all at it.

The monopolies that these tech companies now held allowed them to dictate the design of the internet and that is where a lot of the enshittifcation of the internet we all now lament, happened. Most people by that point accessed the internet via a Smart Phone, not a boomer desk top computer or even laptop. So the whole Web 2.0 API was indulged and well, boomers BTFO! They already had the boomer's money and the boomers weren't buying any new computers as they already had enough, but the New Generation of young people to target for advertising as well as newer model Smart Phones was too much too resist. I mean, what would you have done? It's not like you would actually design two different forms of a website - one for mobile, one for desktop - would you? And so one day when we woke up we all wondered why the fuck the internet stopped working.

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Third. Governments finally "Mastering The Internet".



That article makes out it was a UK centric thing but in reality it was, as always, a US led thing, that is just too deep to even go in to here. Needless to say, but this point [CURRENT YEAR] it had pretty much come about. And Smart Phones were instrumental in it of course. A Smart Phone is basically a tracking device, that can track al the other tracking devices around it.

Google had got caught 'War Driving' under the guise of collecting data for their "Street View" program. They got busted, said 'oopsie, sorry' and went on doing it anyway, because, well, all that DATA gets sent to the govt. to help them track people and well, Master The Internet.

Now Big Government was really in bed with Big DATA. And they didn't feel the need to say they weren't any more! So they told search companies like Google what they could and could not show in search results. And then they hoovered up any of the DATA that Google themselves had been hoovering up to put in to their new Super Computers, to collate information to get the next stage of the game in their strategy ready: Total Mastery of not just the Internet, but everyone's every day life.

So you had whole informative sites just drop off the surface off the Earth. You couldn't use an alternative search engine to find them. They did not exist any more. Monopolistic intent by Google et al was hand-waved away with a back room deal that all information they gleaned would be shared. What the fuck do we care, said Google. If it allows us to get away with our shit, we're all in.

All of a sudden that website that had quite a few links to the Microbiologists that were systematically murdered in both the UK and the US, did not exist any more. No cache of it either. Google keeps a cache of everything, but more and more they do away with it and less and less are we able to access it. It's gone now to all intents and purposes for the common man.

Phew, that's probably enough for now.

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We're at the point where we can theorize and make hypotheticals, but our understanding and application of material sciences and physics needs a massive relevation before we can even hope to reach those old advancement trends. Our generation was spoiled by how quickly we got to witness technology trends change.

A once in a lifetime experience. Or once in several lifetimes. Or several times in one lifetime. Depending on how you look at it. There will be no cure for cancer. There will be no Nuclear Fusion for energy. And what's worse there will be no end to the inflation that is "democracy manifest" as we try to chow down on our succulent goy slop, as we try to stay alive long enough to maybe hope to have some kind of revolution. Political? Nah? Of the mind? Who knows? Of the spirit? Probably not.

Our generation might have been spoiled but it was the Boomers that really witnessed the greatest upheaval in man's existence so far on the planet. Moon landing, antibiotics, affordable air flight. Ability to kill other humans in never before dreamed off amounts down to Nuclear bombs...

Technology had evolved alarmingly fast in the last 25 years or so, in a period of a few hundred years where mankind has developed faster than the rest of its collective existence.


Yeah, things have gone quick, but only a non-boomer would think these advances were as important to the human race as those that took place post-war boom. 150 years of industrial output and scientific advancement in just a quarter of a century post 1950. Top that motherfuckers!!!

There haven't been any really great advances for humanity since the middle of the last Century (I'm not a boomer btw). Take a man from a previous century and plop him in to that world and he would have his tiny little mind blown, take a man from now and traverse back and he'd just go "yeah, whatevs". Stil no cure for cancer, no fusion energy, and no one leaving the planet to go to fucking Mars. LOL.

So computers have slowed down a bit, or rather the laws of physics as we know them have hit the wall. It's the least of our problems. I have a Win98 computer and it is blazingly fast with just 64MB of RAM and running Win98SE.

I have a 32 Core CPU computer with over 100 Gigs of RAM and still it can't open files immediately or copy stuff without halting. How far have we come?

Back to John Carmack and computer programming. It's too much to go in to but yeah it should be possible to do this on computers that are like a thousand times faster. What's the hold up?

I'll leave that to you to figure out why that is the case.

Anyway,

Sir, this is a Greggs...

Sorry about that.




 
Impressive rant, I enjoyed it. The only one thing I disagree with is that the pace of innovation has slowed down. I think it's going just as fast if not faster than ever, but just in ways that aren't seen openly for the vast majority of people (whereas previously it all has been). In my own field for example where we were in 2021 feels like a completely different era to where we are now and the things we're making just wouldn't have been possible outside of a supercomputer even just 5 years ago and were basically sci-fi ideas back in 2016. However for anyone to see this stuff you have to hold all sorts of permissions and clearances which I doubt will change any time soon.
 
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