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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Overly Serious]

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The article (and you should always link if available) probably presents the "glamorous women" as an enticement to men to sway our political beliefs. But honestly, the visible presence of successful and intelligent women is a great boost to other women who ,as a sex (kiwi woman excepted, naturally), tend more towards conformity than men. When women can see other women in the movement and they're not getting driven into social exile for it, I think it helps them be more comfortable expressing such views themselves.

Also, Eva Vlaardingerbroek is Helen of Troy levels of beautiful.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

'Sixth generation in London'? What does that mean? Your great great great grandparents moved there I assume but I have never heard of anyone say that outside of immigration. I'm the god knows what generationth in where I live.

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He's not wrong for once. Our problems are indeed not caused by the people that live alongside us. They are caused by you. I always hate his fucking bullshit about what it means to be English. Yea England is totally built on decency and all that bullshit. So you will free Ulster from colonial rule and let it rejoin the country it is actually a part of instead of continuing to fuck over pretty much all infrastructure and just the entire Belfast area really, probably the rest too I just don't know exactly. How is 'hatred' not peaceful? I have in this country a right to the freedom of expression and protest, that explicitly includes the right to offend. That is very literally in the human rights I have.

The amount of holier-than-thous on Twitter at the time squealing that ‘poverty is driving this, people are stealing food and baby milk because they can’t afford it!’ was unbelievable.

I have seen a lot of theft and I have never looked at someone and thought 'yea they probably can't afford that'. I cannot recall the last time I saw someone steal something I would call essential. It's all luxury shit that you don't need. No one is out there stealing a loaf of bread and a pack of rice. It's chocolate and steak. Mostly because being poor doesn't turn you into a fucking animal.

 

[EddyRooney]

This means he doesn't have to stand down as mayor unless he wins, so he won't be unemployed if he loses.

Is it me, the fact they're effectively hedging his bet for him, it doesn't really sound like a huge vote of confidence ?

The article (and you should always link if available) probably presents the "glamorous women" as an enticement to men to sway our political beliefs. But honestly, the visible presence of successful and intelligent women is a great boost to other women who ,as a sex (kiwi woman excepted, naturally), tend more towards conformity than men. When women can see other women in the movement and they're not getting driven into social exile for it, I think it helps them be more comfortable expressing such views themselves.

Also, Eva Vlaardingerbroek is Helen of Troy levels of beautiful.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Eva Vlaardingerbroek is Helen of Troy levels of beautiful.

I have seen people try and debatebro that she's not attractive and I immediately thought 'homo'. I'd kill a man with a sword to smash. 100%.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Also, Eva Vlaardingerbroek is Helen of Troy levels of beautiful.

Maybe the most controversial thing I will ever say. But gingers are more attractive than blondes.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Nigger stabs unarmed white man to death with large knife, claims white man called him racial slurs, bleeding white man gets arrested and dies in the back of a squad car. The nigger then claims religious exemption, claiming to be a Sikh and that his knife was a ceremonial Kirpan, his lawyer is now pleading for self defense against racial slurs.

I remember years ago I made the suggestion that British people should "convert" to Sikhism just so they could open-carry a weapon as a deterrent or even for self defense, and my idea was totally ignored. I really don't understand why this nigger had the idea and went with it before native white British people did. Maybe this'll cause Anglos to catch on to the fact they can use laws meant to protect minorities for themselves? I don't see why not.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I don't see why not.

Because the police can just say you're clearly lying, arrest you anyway, then the court ass fucks you. You can't nitpick your way past a system with a goal of 'lol die', because they'll just say no.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

I have seen a lot of theft and I have never looked at someone and thought 'yea they probably can't afford that'. I cannot recall the last time I saw someone steal something I would call essential. It's all luxury shit that you don't need. No one is out there stealing a loaf of bread and a pack of rice. It's chocolate and steak. Mostly because being poor doesn't turn you into a fucking animal.

The vast majority of theft I’ve known of is either easy to carry goods that can be sold on for a profit, or drug addicts stealing their food because any money they get goes straight on drugs. Neither are ‘so poor they can’t afford to live’ types, just fucking shysters.

The current trend for mass shoplifting is exactly what the middle-class types undertaking it are told to hate - the gentrification of poverty. Only this time, it’s for attention online and not just profit. Not sure which is more sickening, but neither are excusable.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Thug stabs unarmed white man to death with large knife... his knife was a ceremonial Kirpan

The killer and his mum are ethnically Sikh Punjabi.
The whole thing is disgusting, Vikrum for his murderous robbery, the police for prioritising fake racism and the mother for trying to cover it up. The police did try to helicopter in a stabbing specialist, but still, handcuffing him and leaving the killer free is insane.
I think this is the first video I've seen by PJW that he didn't put an advert in.

He had a good take after Brexit (maybe calling people we disagree with bigoted gammons isn't the best approach). But I've watched lots of his videos since then and it's a bit sad how he basically seems to have gone back on that.

His Kanye video was terrible. He was aware of the medical issues, and still condemned him.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Am I losing it, or do they basically look like the same person, just that one of them has tried Just For Men?

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

The whole thing is disgusting, Vikrum for his murderous robbery

And the fact Sikhs are allowed to carry around their fucking knives because muh religion saaar. Seems to be the next big talking point. Women, or anyone British, can't carry a pocket knife for protection, ordering more than 6 knives online will get you on a list, and you can't take your handbag into Wembley Stadium unless it's see through, but the Indians get to carry their blades around no problem.

 

[Goose the Redeemer]

'Sixth generation in London'? What does that mean? Your great great great grandparents moved there I assume but I have never heard of anyone say that outside of immigration.

Standard word/definition fuckery. They keep pulling it back to immigration, as if that's the issue, so they can redefine what "immigration" is such that moving from "Manchester" to "London" is considered immigration, declare that you're 100% in favour of this (without even asking you), equivocate away, and then call you a hypocrite in order to dismiss your objection to the police turning a blind eye towards children being drugged and gang raped. (That and the whole "nation of immigrants" thing that they picked up from the Americans because Romans, Danes, etc.)

 

[i440BX]

Standard word/definition fuckery. They keep pulling it back to immigration, as if that's the issue, so they can redefine what "immigration" is such that moving from "Manchester" to "London" is considered immigration, declare that you're 100% in favour of this (without even asking you), equivocate away, and then call you a hypocrite in order to dismiss your objection to the police turning a blind eye towards children being drugged and gang raped. (That and the whole "nation of immigrants" thing that they picked up from the Americans because Romans, Danes, etc.)

I think people would complain less if immigration was actually from Europe, but even I believe too much immigration from Eastern Europe can affect negatively.
I believe a lot in my local proverb "The man sanctifies the place", meaning that the men of high quality make a country prosperous. I think there are differences from British and Eastern Europeans.
Western Europe was far superior till late 20th century to Eastern Europe by a large margin, due to the unity and quality of the culture the Germans, French, British had.

Now it infuriates me that places I used to look at high regard, now are worse and more violent than countries from the former communist Bloc.
With Eastern Europeans, you still have some common traits like Christian Culture, and the crimes tend to be less violent, mostly involving stealing, mafia, corruption.
With these shitskin 3rd worlders, I believe they are significantly worse than any Romanian criminal (which most of them are gypsies), and they will bring their pozzed habits to the West. They see the British natives as inferior.

I really really pray you get to fix your country. Even if it means for me that I can only work in my country, I prefer seeing western countries being productive and exporting high quality culture, rather than the bullshit they do today.

 

[Overly Serious]

Anyone got a good source of coverage on the Unite the Kingdom rally? BBC I don't trust on it and Daily Mail reporting "50,000" UTK protestors which sounds low to me. And they're saying "30,000" pro-Palestine attendees which the Daily Mail is calling a "rival protest".

I hate the way they set this up. The plight of Palestinians is used as a flag by Marxists and Leftists and the media presents it as if being against mass immigration in the UK is some oppositional group to the "pro-Palestine" lot. It's all a con. I'm confident in saying that a very large number of people against mass uncontrolled immigration into Britain are at the least ambivalent about Israel vs. Palestine with quite a few who'd wholeheartedly agree Israel shouldn't be killing and starving kids in Gaza. They're not diametrically opposed issues. They're being set up as such by TPTB to make one side the "bad guys".

Sorry - ranting because this blatant stage managing pisses me off and is the reason I trust much of the media less and less. To my original question, anyone know what the turn out is like and got some non-BBC pics?

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Where the Fuck were these things during Mark Duggan riots and similar actual violent unrest and looting?

 

[teriyakiburns]

I think people would complain less if immigration was actually from Europe, but even I believe too much immigration from Eastern Europe can affect negatively.

People did complain a lot, in fact. East euro immigration pushed down wages, especially in the building trade, and created little slavic colonies all over the country that became gang havens and crime hotspots. EU withdrawal demands went into overdrive in 2014, because the EU changed the definition of free movement of workers in 2011 to allow people to move speculatively rather than after securing employment, meaning they could come here and immediately claim benefits, and because the 2005 limitation on free movement of workers from Bulgaria and Romania had expired in 2012. The result was that we were being flooded with thousands of romanians looking for work and getting on the dole in the meantime, sucking up resources and housing and completely changing the character of communities almost overnight, in addition to "workers" from other parts of the Union who saw us as a soft touch.

It really puts the lie to the idea that anti-immigration rhetoric is driven by racism, when exactly the same arguments were used against white europeans as are used now against indians other mass migrant groups. Exactly the same arguments would be used if 2 million swedes decided to decamp here and took over whole towns. The problem is, we're ignored when we demand change, and the government's control over the dissemination of information is so total that it took absolutely catastrophic events to show people who wanted immigrants gone that they weren't an isolated minority.

 

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Good luck to anyone going today, or even just following it online as it likely won’t be good for the ol’ blood pressure.

I do genuinely consider the ‘only following orders’ police looking to crack patriot heads traitors.

I’d like to have seen some patriot ‘content creator’ get a couple of cameras and a mic and go to speak to the counter protestors. Make themselves seem impartial/curious, early Louis Theroux style. Ask them questions about why they think the other side is racist, why ‘racism’ is a bad thing, if not wanting people from third world shitholes that have no right to be here, only bleed the country dry and commit disproportionately high levels of violent and sexual crime to be here is ‘racist’ and so on…

We’ve all seen the scum mainstream media who find the stupidest person at a patriot rally and then cut their most stupid, stumbling responses together and run it. Do the same to them.

Restore Branch in Makerfield are meeting now and will make a decision over the weekend about if they'll run a candidate or not. Lowe seems enthusiastic. If they do, I really hope they're ready for it, because if they did split the vote in a way that makes it look like Reform would have won it, it could be damaging for them going forward.
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Restore could only split the vote, they have no chance of winning this one outright.

The Makerfield constituency is >94% White, but the surrounding areas have been badly affected by immigration. The fact that it was basically a straight battle between Labour and Reform in 2024 suggests to me that the area is split along ‘all immigrants’/‘not all immigrants’ lines, with a greater percentage of the latter.

I think the 2024 Labour voters are mostly ‘not all immigrants’/‘I’m not racist’ types who were hoping Labour would be more ‘sensible’ on immigration but who would never want to be seen voting for ‘far right (lol)’ Reform, so Restore have little chance of courting them. Maybe a small amount have seen enough in the time since to tip into ‘all immigrants’ territory though and Labour will lose from that, Reform/Restore will gain.

In Makerfield 2024, The Greens come fifth with a 4.4% vote share. The Greens and Lib Dems combined got the same as the Tories who were a distant third, so I don’t think The Greens or any of the others pose any threat. Maybe there’s a small percentage of 2024 Labour voters that voted for them purely practically at the time - ‘Never Reform’ - but who are sick of them now because they’re not pro-Palestine enough or whatever and they’ll go to their natural home of The Greens as a result. Labour lose from that, but Reform/Restore don’t gain.

A Restore run could only lose votes for Reform. The Labour majority in 2024 was 5,400 and turnout was 52.5%, I imagine typical Reform voters are more motivated to turn out and Labour would have had a lot of apathetic ‘foregone conclusion’ types that didn’t bother but that will turn out this time due to the publicity and the ‘threat’ of Reform. I think the likely increased turnout only benefits Labour, but perhaps some people - the 2010 BNP voters - who know what Reform are would turn out for Restore, neither Labour nor Reform gain from that.

I think Burnham wins it, but if Restore run and put a lot of work in locally I could see the Reform+Restore total perhaps being higher than that of Labour. I think that has more potential to give Reform a kick up the arse (not that they’ll change) and get Restore more name recognition (if the media even cover that angle) than lose Restore any support. I don’t know how bitter the Reform/Restore thing is though.

If Burnham wins then PM Burnham will double down on immigration even more than Starmer, he’ll just approach the messaging differently. Where Starmer barks emotionless droid authoritarian slogans, Burnham would be more ‘let’s all come together’ leftist true believer delusion, with both leading to the same outcome.

I don’t see PM Burnham affecting the fortunes of Reform/Restore at the next GE, only bolstering them, so I don’t think Restore cucking Reform out of Makerfield is that big a deal but could certainly lead to even greater enmity between the two.

It’s going to be a really interesting one anyway, with hopefully more conclusions to be drawn than from the Gorton and Denton ‘oh there’s widespread electoral fraud but no one is doing anything about it’ one.

 

[EddyRooney]

Anyone got a good source of coverage on the Unite the Kingdom rally? BBC I don't trust on it and Daily Mail reporting "50,000" UTK protestors which sounds low to me. And they're saying "30,000" pro-Palestine attendees which the Daily Mail is calling a "rival protest".

I hate the way they set this up. The plight of Palestinians is used as a flag by Marxists and Leftists and the media presents it as if being against mass immigration in the UK is some oppositional group to the "pro-Palestine" lot. It's all a con. I'm confident in saying that a very large number of people against mass uncontrolled immigration into Britain are at the least ambivalent about Israel vs. Palestine with quite a few who'd wholeheartedly agree Israel shouldn't be killing and starving kids in Gaza. They're not diametrically opposed issues. They're being set up as such by TPTB to make one side the "bad guys".

Sorry - ranting because this blatant stage managing pisses me off and is the reason I trust much of the media less and less. To my original question, anyone know what the turn out is like and got some non-BBC pics?

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Where the Fuck were these things during Mark Duggan riots and similar actual violent unrest and looting?

GB News ? They have Dougie live on the scene ! They have reporters and cameras there.
That's probably the other side of the coin to the BBC ?

Sophie is at the nutters Free Palestine rally.
Seem to be a lot of suicidally empathetic women in the Free Palestine / Trans Rights / Invaders Welcome Here march.

No wonder the police are shitting it. On one side there are a lot of pissed off men, on the other a group of pansies.
I have a challenge - can anyone find a Lefty marching today that looks like they might be any good in a fight ?!

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

I’d like to have seen some patriot ‘content creator’ get a couple of cameras and a mic and go to speak to the counter protestors

That side are allowed to kill those who question them.

 

[Overly Serious]

Ask them questions about why they think the other side is racist, why ‘racism’ is a bad thing

Amusingly I could immediately think of two valid reasons to give:
- It's anti-meritocratic.
- It's Identity Politics.

Two reasons a Progressive/Marxist couldn't legitimately give themselves.

 

[Smyrna]

Restore are standing in Makerfield.

For whatever my opinion is worth, it is absolutely the right decision. If Restore are to be a serious national party aspiring to form a government, then it has to contend every single Westminster by-election. It is irrelevant which other parties are helped or harmed. The Tories are standing. The Lib Dems are standing. The Greens are standing. Restore must stand.