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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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With the exception of trades like Dr, Lawyer etc, people go to uni to pay for a piece of paper, the value of which decreases over time. Anything that can be learned at Uni, can be found in books in the Library.

We should not be sending kids to uni to learn shit that 99% won't learn, use or care about. We should be focusing on teaching people how to be independent, disciplined, well-mannered and socially responsible; don't throw litter on the streets, help elderly people, pick up rubbish if you see it, hold doors for people with push/wheel chairs and know when to say "Thank You".
The education and choice of career should come after the maturity part.

I'm a firm believer in 'The party years' and they are necessary. The first year where you move away from home and are your own person is a building experience everyone should have to go through.
This is why a form of National Service is something we should be doing. It teaches you life skills, while letting you learn how to party your arse off.
 
Anything that can be learned at Uni, can be found in books in the Library.
There is a value all of its ow in GOOD education. I went the stem route but I will defend people digging through the bodleian library for marginalia or Sumerian tablets because I think that stuff is vital for us. Without the art and expression we aren’t truly human and I think Covid really rammed that home for me. That’s what happens when the science side gets too much power.
So I have no issue at all with dusty academics in ivory towers (if the are truly obsessed with their field.) I want there to be lectures on ancient Egyptian faience objects. Even if i can read it in a book.
What I do t want is uni for all, at the expense of good education and kids’ futures. Education is great but it has to be right. We need far better vocational routes for most, the tech/vocational stuff like doctor/lawyer for some and the blue sky stuff for a very few. We don’t need a million gender studies graduates or even most of rhe stuff people get bog standard degrees in. It’s pointless and puts people in debt.
We should be educating everyone, to a much higher standard through school and giving people the options of academic, vocational and technical routes where they can excel.
 
I added a load of people from school on facebook back all those decades ago now. Most of them just don't use it. There is one specific person though, I was in the same year as them and I wouldn't say I know them very well but decently enough. They constantly bitch about everything, one of those types of person to always need someone else to blame. They are constantly fucking hung up on the idea that they shouldn't pay taxes because school didn't teach them how to or some shit. They are just endlessly seething that they didn't learn basic maths in school. And then it's like bitch I fucking knew what you were like during school you were out smoking weed constantly and never paid attention in any class at all. Why the fuck do you think that teenage you would have listened and learned how to do taxes when you didn't listen for anything in any of the other maths lessons.
 
The police are throwing the "Actually AI did it" in response to the Israeli teams fans being barred from coming to Birmingham.
I'm going to post a few sources on this because the response from the BBC in particular is contemptible.

Let's start with this though
The Home Affairs Committee has published its report into the decision to ban Maccabi Tel Aviv fans from the Europa League fixture against Aston Villa in November 2025.
 
We should not be sending kids to uni to learn shit that 99% won't learn, use or care about. We should be focusing on teaching people how to be independent, disciplined, well-mannered and socially responsible; don't throw litter on the streets, help elderly people, pick up rubbish if you see it, hold doors for people with push/wheel chairs and know when to say "Thank You".
Wrong. This is what parents are for. All of what you mentioned there is part of basic parenting, the heading is "don't allow your children to become people you don't like".
 
I added a load of people from school on facebook back all those decades ago now. Most of them just don't use it. There is one specific person though, I was in the same year as them and I wouldn't say I know them very well but decently enough. They constantly bitch about everything, one of those types of person to always need someone else to blame. They are constantly fucking hung up on the idea that they shouldn't pay taxes because school didn't teach them how to or some shit. They are just endlessly seething that they didn't learn basic maths in school. And then it's like bitch I fucking knew what you were like during school you were out smoking weed constantly and never paid attention in any class at all. Why the fuck do you think that teenage you would have listened and learned how to do taxes when you didn't listen for anything in any of the other maths lessons.
I also see people like this who seemed perfectly fine in when we were in school together, then you see their facebook posts/comments and they've become some sort of imbecile. Yeah we might have both been in set 2 english, but it seems you forgot all of that as an adult.
 
Wrong. This is what parents are for. All of what you mentioned there is part of basic parenting, the heading is "don't allow your children to become people you don't like".
It's like reading. You should really know how to read by the time you're being expected to learn actual material. It blew my mind at age 11 that loads of my class read at a pace of 1 word every 10 seconds, and still needed their fingers to track their place on the page. But then again, I am dirty fucking nerd. So.
 
I think we're on the rise to the bong version of Hitler appearing
Can I piss on your fire? It’s nothing personal or a perversion, just a nagging doubt.
France and Germany both have genuine right wing options and their purpose is to corral and get arrested supporters or get banned.

That’s my one fear with restore. There is 3 years to set the trap (7 if we go off keir stalin’s record of banning elections)
 
It blew my mind at age 11 that loads of my class read at a pace of 1 word every 10 seconds, and still needed their fingers to track their place on the page.
I always got shouted at by our English teacher (was a cunt in general) because any time I got called on to read to the class it took me a minute to ask what the page was and where we were because I couldn't fucking stand listening to the retards speaking like a tts program of the time and just read ahead in my own speed. Like nigger why the fuck are you shouting at me for fucking reading the book?
 
Wrong. This is what parents are for. All of what you mentioned there is part of basic parenting, the heading is "don't allow your children to become people you don't like".
Not just parents but family in general. And for those who have friends who they claim are like family that applies there too. I personally do not swear around children of any friends the same way I would not around the youth in my family, because when I am around them I consider that to be inappropriate behaviour.

Far too many people I know take the attitude that they never have to change their behaviour when there's children around, despite the fact that children will regard most adults as role models for what is acceptable behaviour.
 
It blew my mind at age 11 that loads of my class read at a pace of 1 word every 10 seconds, and still needed their fingers to track their place on the page. But then again, I am dirty fucking nerd.
Between social media slop destroying the minds and attention spans of our young and AI destroying the arbitrary need to perform schoolwork, I hope the saving grace is that the culmination of these failures that has resulted in the visible competency crisis is that there will be a serious, forced need for massive education reform.

Hopefully something like "mixed educational paths" could appear and enable people to engage in practical workplace training and skills earlier on.
 
Between social media slop destroying the minds and attention spans of our young and AI destroying the arbitrary need to perform schoolwork, I hope the saving grace is that the culmination of these failures that has resulted in the visible competency crisis is that there will be a serious, forced need for massive education reform.

Hopefully something like "mixed educational paths" could appear and enable people to engage in practical workplace training and skills earlier on.
I don’t.
Locking people into a future at the first year of high school was disgusting enough.

Either way I go with the attitude of letting people choose their future then continue education when they realise they aren’t satisfied.
 
I live in this strange world where the company brags about how many MDs and PhDs they have and then has zero clear path for said PhDs to rise up through. The MDs can earn serious money (but you’ll be on call 24/7 forever) but not the PhDs. They don’t even hire fresh PhDs because they know they’re generally clueless ego monsters whereas at least the MDs have had the humility beaten int them in medical school and practice.
So no PhD advantage. Which I get, it’s a useless bit of paper, but the hypocrisy is amusing.
If I had my time again I would go a totally different route.
We’ve stopped hiring people with a Masters or PhD unless the role specifically calls for it.

We hired a bunch during Covid who interviewed well and they’re fucking awful. They’ve no real life or office experience and you have to watch them like a strict school teacher to make sure they’re not chatting all day.

Even now, this far on, I catch them chatting away like they’re working the till in fucking Asda.

I could sperg about this for hours. Bring on the redundancies so we can bullet the fuckers.
 
For me, what I can't get over is when I was in High School in the Cameron Government, you would literally have people who would come in and basically sell you on University, most graduate jobs I see pay £24-27k at best, my brother who's a Labourer earns £35k starting rate, even with the BORISWAVE, and that's before you get in the cards with a Plant card, or Slinger job or something else like that which pays £50k~
 
Restore have all but confirmed Reform's electoral victory in the next general election.
Back already Welshy? Can't help put post the Reform propaganda can we?

Edit : Reread the first post he made. It's 100% Welshy. No one else is stupid enough to claim Tory slime joining Reform added credibility to them. No one else thinks adding random brown people to your anti-immigration party is a good idea. Especially not all of Boris' mates.
Without the art and expression we aren’t truly human and I think Covid really rammed that home for me. That’s what happens when the science side gets too much power.
You don't need university to make art or to express what it means to be human. Quite the fucking opposite from what I've seen coming out of universities. The best artists and writers don't go to university, only the talentless fags who want their wallets emptying do
Can I piss on your fire? It’s nothing personal or a perversion, just a nagging doubt.
France and Germany both have genuine right wing options and their purpose is to corral and get arrested supporters or get banned.

That’s my one fear with restore. There is 3 years to set the trap (7 if we go off keir stalin’s record of banning elections)
I don't think it's easy, but we've seen a very rapid escalation and any attempts to piss on it will back fire hard. Tories? Out. Time for Reform. Reform? Out. Time for Restore. If Restore aren't hard enough or aren't allowed a further escalation will happen until it becomes a very nasty option. The rise and fall of Reform is something different to what we've seen in a long time and it all happened in a matter of weeks. That's a nano second in our political terms. The old guard are losing control in a way I've never seen and their opponents have the backing of the US, who are very good at making governments in other countries.
 
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Hopefully
Oh come on welshie this is just pitiful, you barely made it 3 fucking days, a real lack of self control.
Alt accounts aren't allowed btw, you didn't scramble your old password did you? I'd suggest taking at least a month off, and maybe not immediately sucking Nigel's cock next time if you wanna fly under the radar better a bit better.
 
Restore have all but confirmed Reform's electoral victory in the next general election. Fact is, while Restore have clear support from the "online right", this translates in no way to actual support from the widespread general public. Reform also now have a further-right position next to them, which gives them further credibility to the public as "non-extreme", and scapegoat with Restore whenever Reform are told they are racist etc.
Nigger Farage put a Muslim in a position of power in his party. He doesn't deserve a victory, all he deserves is mockery. Reform is a half-measure and it's way too late for half-measures.
 
Oh dear. It seems I've stumbled into something and poked the bear at the same time
>Reform have a greater change of getting into this next gov than restore
>ITS DA FOOOKEN BOOOOGEYMAAAANNNN
You're not a booger Llyr, you just stick out like one is all, this is I think your 3rd/4th reroll and you really should be better at it by now.
 
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