Aug 29 2021 - Barb returned to 14BC

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Everyone is operating under the assumption that Barb would be charged if she was a willing participant, and that obviously makes sense, but does anyone know of any specific precedence for that?
People who are not retarded do not believe Barb getting charge is some kind of done deal if it was consensual and she is found competent.. There is nothing in it for the state to charge Barb. Why would they? To get her off the streets she stalks for victims? To punish her so she doesn't do it again? To provide a measure of closure to her victim? To silence public outrage? As a feather in the cap of the prosecutor's office? To grandstand in the media?
 
Everyone is operating under the assumption that Barb would be charged if she was a willing participant, and that obviously makes sense, but does anyone know of any specific precedence for that? Are there examples of previous similar cases in Virginia where both are charged?

For example, if there was a case of consensual incest between a parent and a young but legal aged child, I can absolutely imagine the DA’s office only charging the parent. The assumption seems to be that the only two possibilities are that Chris gets a rape charge or Barb gets an incest charge. Is that assumption valid?
Chris infamously defended a mother-son IRL couple who were in trouble with the law at one point in the past. Despite digging through the CWCiki for any source to this in order to find out the identity/fate of them, I couldn’t really find anything. I think it was in the US but no idea which state.

Maybe more thorough Kiwis are able to find the exact details.
 
I wouldn't put it past Barb to turn in her son. Yes Barb loses money, but at the cost of not having to spend time in the clink for incest. She's got one foot in the grave anyway and probably wants to return home to her cats. Chris not being around might even be relaxing to her. He's almost 40 and has probably hit his peak, the cow has been milked for all its worth. He's also fucking crazy too.
Hasn't she gotten used to Chris being her personal slave (she raised him for that)? Best option for Barb is to be committed to a home (ironically Chris had stated in the past he would not put her in one), or have a state ordered social worker to look after her and go to Sheetz. In all, I guess Barb going to a home is most likely because Chris isn't around for his half of the mortgage, which means Barb will get kicked out.
 
Hasn't she gotten used to Chris being her personal slave (she raised him for that)? Best option for Barb is to be committed to a home (ironically Chris had stated in the past he would not put her in one), or have a state ordered social worker to look after her and go to Sheetz. In all, I guess Barb going to a home is most likely because Chris isn't around for his half of the mortgage, which means Barb will get kicked out.
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure she has more money than she discloses.
 
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People who are not retarded do not believe Barb getting charge is some kind of done deal if it was consensual and she is found competent.. There is nothing in it for the state to charge Barb. Why would they? To get her off the streets she stalks for victims? To punish her so she doesn't do it again? To provide a measure of closure to her victim? To silence public outrage? As a feather in the cap of the prosecutor's office? To grandstand in the media?
The law is the law, and must be applied fairly and equally to all citizens; otherwise, it's basically meaningless if the state picks and chooses who it prosecutes and who it doesn't.

That's the idea at least, and I won't be screaming about corrupt DAs if Barb gets a pass and Chris doesn't...but if Barb was lucid and complicit in this, she should get charged just the same as Chris does. Sentencing would be a different issue if you were talking about "getting her off the streets", there have been many cases where two parties commit the exact same crime and one gets a heavier sentence than the other, often due to past behavior and other mitigating circumstances. If Barb AND Chris were charged, then it wouldn't be out of line for Chris, the instigator and known troublemaker to spend time in the clink, while Barb gets to swallow the charge but return home.

While we can debate endlessly about "Yeah but if Barb couldn't consent then why wasn't it rape", if the state chose to only apply it to Chris, then it is what it is, letter of the law be damned.
 
Hasn't she gotten used to Chris being her personal slave (she raised him for that)? Best option for Barb is to be committed to a home (ironically Chris had stated in the past he would not put her in one), or have a state ordered social worker to look after her and go to Sheetz. In all, I guess Barb going to a home is most likely because Chris isn't around for his half of the mortgage, which means Barb will get kicked out.
Yeah but he’s been a terrible slave for the past few years. Culminating in final evidence from Null that it’s Chris that steals money off Barb to fund his shopping habits now, yet won’t even pay $25 for her to get a proper human haircut. That’s the beauty of it: her monster grew beyond her control.
 
We all know Chris' stupid back story. It's more elaborate than Batman's. A mentally deficient lunatic who should have been put away as a child winds up raping his mother after cutting a magical hole in his taint.

I am in no way stupid, I have three degrees. The difference between you and me is that I can see straight through bullshit.

Congrats on having three degrees.
 
The law is the law,
It is not.
and must be applied fairly and equally to all citizens
It is not.

Anyone who thinks this has little experience in the real world or might actually be retarded. Have you never watched a reality based crime procedural show that follows actual cases? You're free to have whatever ideological beliefs you want presuming you're an American citizen. Maybe we can sit in the quad together and discuss how we're going to change the world after we graduate.

I didn't even bother reading the rest of your response because I expected some idiot to say this. Congratulations, you took the bait. Read some of the threads, on Chris or whoever, that follow actual legal proceedings. I can't audit every lolsperg's CV, and I'm not a lolyer myself, but there are a number of posters on KF who provide reasonable legal insight that appears to play out in a courtroom. They disagree with you.
 
Barb can't just talk herself out of it, the state is the one that presses charges. If the police get called to a domestic violence situation and found an obviously battered woman who makes up some ridiculous excuse like "tripped and fell on a doorknob" or something, there's nothing that they can do once the ball gets rolling, and from what I've heard from jury duty, women will often try to argue against the charges because that's where the money comes in.

The same thing is in effect for Barb. Even if Barb was lucid and wanted Chris' tugboat and whatever other money Chris is getting from his latest hustle, if the state finds evidence of incest, it's all over. But as others have stated before—the fact that Barb wasn't also charged with incest suggests she wasn't lucid or knowingly threw Chris under the bus.

That being said, I'm not terribly surprised if Barb was back at the house, since it's unlikely that the state could confine her to a nursing home and leave 14BLC abandoned, otherwise 14BLC would attract weens and vandals all over.



I'm not sure if Barb realizes the implications of that though. If she thinks that the :tugboat: will come every month in the mail while Chris is incarcerated, she's in for a nasty surprise.

Hasn't she gotten used to Chris being her personal slave (she raised him for that)? Best option for Barb is to be committed to a home (ironically Chris had stated in the past he would not put her in one), or have a state ordered social worker to look after her and go to Sheetz. In all, I guess Barb going to a home is most likely because Chris isn't around for his half of the mortgage, which means Barb will get kicked out.

Well Barb is in a Prisoner's Dilemma type situation. Both Barb and Chris are arrested following an incest charge. Barb's options are:

A: Say it was abusive, where Chris suffers a sexual assault charge if he doesn't point the blame on her and she gets off scot-free with the exception of losing tugboat money.
B: Say it was consensual, where they both suffer the incest charge and Chris suffers less but Barb also has to do to jail. Tugboat money is likely cut off too.
C: Pretend she has dimentia and loses essentially everything like in A but can't go back to 14BC and her cats. maybe could lessen the severity of Chris' charge by giving Chris the chance to get off on the more serious charges since he lacks the intent to commit sexual assault depending on her statement.

Chris already lost game theory because he basically admitted to committing the act so cannot avoid any charges whatsoever or pin the blame on Barb. Barb however has multiple options and option A is not only the most selfish option but the optimal option to win the game. Chris is fucked either way, so it depends on what Barb is willing to lose to save Chris. It's like a game of Prisoner's Dilemma where you know your opponent won't rat you out.

I think Barb is selfish enough that should would pick option A. I never believe Barb had full on dimentia and hammed it up for the camera. Though I don't believe she fully consented to the rapes and could very well be drugged or too frightened to stop Chris. I can't blame her for picking option A either as a bit of revenge. Chris is her personal servant sure, but in recent years he has become a bit more rebellious and demanding. While Barb may not or can not do the things she wants to do, she certainly doesn't want to lose her lifestyle to save Chris and she certainly doesn't need jail time or thrice nightly rapings to go on either. Senior Citizens just want to be left alone in their old age.

The banks might just wait until Barb dies than evict an abused old lady or she might have money she can draw from.
 
And then in the very next sentence I say that it's all in theory and rarely applied that way. But you didn't read that because you were so eager to "prove" me wrong.
You got me, you were only pretending to be retarded. Why should the state waste money on charging an octogenarian with incest?
 
You got me, you were only pretending to be retarded. Why should the state waste money on charging an octogenarian with incest?
I mean, the State may be Jewish with their scheckles, but they do still need to be occasionally competent to keep people paying into it.
Not to mention, they definitely know how high-profile this case is.
 
While Barb may not or can not do the things she wants to do, she certainly doesn't want to lose her lifestyle to save Chris
This is pretty spot on. I've always thought what if Barb ever regretting giving birth to Chris. Her actions, as they've been recorded on the CWCki tell a sad story. Again, Barb just wanted a home after living apartment to apartment, and was lucky to get her clutches on Bob at his weakest. I guess Chris was her karma for being a selfish, manipulative snorlax for all those years.
 
I mean, the State may be Jewish with their scheckles, but they do still need to be occasionally competent to keep people paying into it.
Not to mention, they definitely know how high-profile this case is.
There is nothing in it for the state in charging an poor white trash octogenarian with fucking her son. It's a complete waste of time and money. I would be angry if I was a local tax payer and they wasted my money on taking her to court and a judicial punishment. It's not like she even has any money to take. There is nothing to gain. Chris has reached tabloid levels for being a retarded tranny who fucked his mom. Nobody cares about Barb. She would have died in the horde and nobody would have given a fuck if Chris hadn't fucked her.
 
Not to mention, they definitely know how high-profile this case is.
This case is only high profile in the way a puppy born with spot shaped vaguely like Jesus Christ is. Yeah, lots of people saw the story, but no one new is checking for updates on the case. Normies gawk at it for 30 seconds and then never search for updates on ‘Miss Chan’s’ case ever again. As for locals, why would this be their point of outrage at the DA when the macing and attempted vehicular manslaughter and decades of degeneracy weren’t?
 
can 1 person commit incest in the eyes of the law?
Committing a crime under duress is an effective defense. My understanding is that even though you committed the crime, it's unlikely a prosecutor would bring charges as it would be a likely loss (for them).

Plus, at least where I live, incest charges requires consent - otherwise, it's "family rape". Also, I don't think the prosecutor has even brought charges, have they?

IANAL
 
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