Are we bad people? - Morality and the farms.

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Yes and no.

On one hand I don't agree with doxing people unless they are a threat to society (paedophiles, murderers, rapists and the like). On the other hand a lot of the people chronicled here deserve to be made fun of for being cringey. If you do something stupid on the internet, there's always going to be a niche group who remembers it and will take this piss out of it. Keep doing similar things and more people will join in as you made yourself a sitting duck.
 
The concept of "good vs bad" has always been kind of silly to me, you can be a good person while still being morally bad or doing things that are considered as such and vice versa. Everything someone could possibly do doesn't have to always be just because that person is a bad person, and thinking that there's never anything more behind the actions of one or many people seem really lazy to me.

I get that it's about simplifying in order to come to a reasonable conclusion yet nothing is really that simple, to begin with.
So, I'd say it's up to others to decide if everyone on KF is the spawn of satan kin to Hitler all they want.
 
Entirely subjective. I'm sure somewhere on KF there's some cows that didn't deserve to be mocked but every thread I've interacted with the person was an utter reprehensible cunt. Is it "bad" to mock someone like that? That's for you to decide.

There are non-reprehensible lolcows, people like Aaron McCluske, who had a thread here. The thing is people here are so mean and the surrounding weens who aren't even Kiwis get attracted to people we have threads on, and watching McCluske get utterly torn apart by sadists at least indirectly because of us makes me feel bad. That was literally the only moment of troll's remorse I had here, though, and that includes butthole Terryberry offing herself.

I used to think I'd rather have more feelgood lolcows who weren't just reprehensible and evil, but the negative repercussions aren't worth it. Basically, we deserve nothing but scumbags.

Because we're bad people.
 
I'm sure somewhere on KF there's some cows that didn't deserve to be mocked but every thread I've interacted with the person was an utter reprehensible cunt.
There are non-reprehensible lolcows, people like Aaron McCluske, who had a thread here.
Because we're bad people.
I guess all I can say to that is "speak for yourself". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'd like to think we're all individuals here, and not some hivemind hate-machine.
 
I think I'm a pretty bad person (I'm not proud of that), I don't know about anyone else on the farms.
 
I mean we're probably bad but on the scale of things being mean on the internet isn't really that bad.

Besides, if we didn't do what we did someone without rules would come along and be worse.
 
Given our monitoring and attack on the reprehensible cows, I would say we would be somewhat necessary. And I use "we" in the loosest definition possible. You guys did all the work. I just watched as the fireworks went off.

We could be kinder regarding the non-rep cows. But I generally agree with the sentiment that if you do something fucking stupid and cringey you're gonna get some shit for it. Boundaries are useful though.

I kind of liken the farms to that whole bit in hellsing Ultimate Abridged when Alexander Anderson does that whole speech with the iscariots of "who are we?" "The necessary evil!"
 
I think that mocking people can only go so far from being funny to straight up sadistic. Obvious comparison is obvious but for example in Chris Chan's case there's a difference between having a bit of a laugh and imitating Chris' mannerisms to piss him off than blackmailing him to shove the medallion up his ass. A lot of Chris' trolls were actually trying to help him a lot of the time, but Chris would always push them away and not take any advice.
Yes and no.

On one hand I don't agree with doxing people unless they are a threat to society (paedophiles, murderers, rapists and the like). On the other hand a lot of the people chronicled here deserve to be made fun of for being cringey. If you do something stupid on the internet, there's always going to be a niche group who remembers it and will take this piss out of it. Keep doing similar things and more people will join in as you made yourself a sitting duck.

As LagoonaBlue said I don't think doxxing people is neccessary unless they really are a danger to society. However with the way some people behave, especially with how they push away advice to get better, sometimes they pretty much bring the consequences on themselves. People are meant to grow and learn, and what lolcows have in common is that most of the time, they don't learn, which is why they are considered abnormal and easy to make fun of. It does go two ways most of the time in a circle of kiwifarmers taking the piss and lolcows giving them ammunition to do so. I think Kiwifarms has one benefit: it teaches people how not to behave online if they don't want their life and reputation to go down the drain.
 
In my opinion, I think some of us are bad and some of us are good. And even some of us are in between. Of course, most of us aren't evil. At least as far as I've seen.
If anything I think some of the doxxing here is unnecessary. I can understand for pedophiles and rapists, but I've seen some for lolcows who... Haven't really done anything wrong except for being cringey. Even if the cow is annoying, I don't see the point in it.
 
It depends really for me.

Unless that lolcow is a pedophile, rapist, or a borderline criminal, I dont see doxxing positively, but I also feel as if this website is necessary to drive in the "internet footprint" idea, basically dont do stupid shit on the internet with your name behind it.
 
I'd sell members of my family for semper fi ratings.

On a related note, anybody want to buy some used humans?
 
We're all here just to laugh and observe at lolcows. It's like observing celebrities but can be obscure at times. I doubt we are bad people just because we are interested in weird and fascinating people.

Also most of us just prefer to observe and not touch anyway.
 
I'm gonna be honest; I don't really know what I am at this point, I don't know if I'm good or bad, its just how people view me. People may consider me bad for rising up to a "popular" abusive cow, but some people consider me good for trying to give justice to the cows who were abused by them. I don't pick on people who are just simply transgender, gay, or any of that. I shame them if they are abusive, no matter what they are. I mean, it sure is a good laugh when people act stupid like this on the internet; but in the end, I feel like we are at one with zen like we know whats right and wrong. I believe our aim is to shame the abusers and morally wronged.
 
I'll admit, I'm no moral authority on things, especially on whether something is "good" or "bad." I have a morbid sense of humor that would either get me called an edge lord, or a psychopath. I'm going to do my best to give a lurker's perspective on this, as it may be of value. Feel free to disagree, because I'm sure I have opinions that may seem controversial, even to the Farms. Scroll down for a TL;DR.

First off, we're going to look at the surface. Kiwi Farms documents the actions of people, infamous or totally random; and talks absolute shit about them. Users will even dox said persons if they have the information off hand. At a glance, this seems sadistic and users seem to get a sense of schadenfreude. Is that the case for some users? Absolutely, but not for everyone. Some people offer perspective in how a person should handle a situation, and may even educate other users on things, as I've witnessed. Looking like psychopathic stalkers with a hate boner for people, right? Not quite...

We're going to dig deeper and look at its users. Kiwi Farms has a diverse user base, politically and status wise. We see people laugh, we see people sympathize and offer their condolences, and we see people angry about how things are going. Some people even disagree with the way Kiwi Farms conduct themselves, but they will come here for laughs, news, and friends. Kiwi Farms is also not a place full of anarchy, for it has rules, such as no trolling plans, having things be legal to post; and does not act like it has the moral authority on things. You're going to have people swim against the current, but that's natural and doesn't represent the Farms at all. That person represents themselves, no one else. I see nothing but camaraderie and civility on the Farms, and barely anything malicious. People also do a service of exposing some of the lolcows as complete dipshits who are undeserving of sympathy, and they may very well have a criminal record to show how much of a fraud said lolcow is. Granted, it depends on the record, but one's records can show what type of person you are, or potentially were if you had a change of heart.

Now, onto doxing. Doxing is one thing I do not condone on principle; however, if someone is sloppy enough to expose their name or whatever, especially if they have that same information and more on other sites, my sympathy drops to zero. "But Shway, doxing is bad no matter what!" Yes, doxing is bad, but people, in my opinion, lose their claim for sympathy when they are sloppy enough to release their full name, their location, and/or where they work/go to school. The internet can be a dangerous place, so always go under a name that's not related to you at all, and never expose any private information under any circumstances. People are cruel, but you can prevent yourself from being a potential victim.

Now, for the answer: Are we bad people? When you sweep off the dirt that obscures that gem, you see that Kiwi Farms is just a community that laughs and documents people's antics, similar to a gossip website. People have a weird sense of humor, and we don't act like we have moral authority.

TL;DR: No, we're mostly a chaotic bunch with different perspectives.
 
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I don't think we're bad people. I don't think any of you guys are bad people. Lolcows were already basket cases before Kiwi Farms discovered them. Their misery and suffering almost seems like its self-inflicted. They want attention in various levels for different reasons. Well now they get what they wanted!

Also, if Kiwi Farms didn't do it then someone else would.
 
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