"angry" gamers/critics

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Red_Rager said:
The interview she did with the Internet Aristocrat improved my opinion of her a lot. She acknowledges she is and will always be a biological man genetically, and has gone through the trouble of getting properly diagnosed. She does not let being trans define her; she is not just a transwomen but is a women. I recommend watching the interview, she is not a fan of the SJW community at all. Probably why she and Linkara didn't stay together or at least one of the reasons.
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Oh definitely. Iron Liz is a classy bird, and after all she's gone through, she deserves at least some kudos.
 
pickleniggo said:
I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you here. Doug doesn't necessarily say anything of value in his December videos, and a lot of them seem disingenuous and rushed. Doug also does videos where he tells you facts about movie that "you probably didn't know". He legit just reads off the imdb trivia page for each movie he covers.

Basically Doug's business is making as many low effort videos as possible for the money. I've stated this before, but if you look at his Adventure Time recaps, it's crystal clear he doesn't give a shit about what he's watching, he's just pandering to his fans. And the sad thing is, they keep eating it up.
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I don't know. Most critics produce very high output. I don't think that is any indication of a lack of respect for the medium. Although, I get it if you don't like Doug Walker's content.

I've never heard of those movie trivia videos, but Doug has said repeatedly in the past that he doesn't do videos unless he feels he has something original to add. (For example, he never did the Star Wars Prequels for that reason. Actually, he made a top ten list of often requested reviews which he plans never to make.) //I'll have to check the movie trivia videos out. Maybe it was an idea which failed, or maybe Doug actually is different now.

I like Doug Walker for his opinion pieces. I think he is expressive, well spoken, and can offer thoughtful insight. I think his best episodes emphasize his natural expressiveness in a genuine way, only using the critic character as a prop. Also, the scripts need to use his insight to build a strong arc, or the audience isn't invested. If audience members are focusing entirely on individual jokes, one bomb turns them against you. (The arc doesn't need complexity or a real story; it only needs to offer some significance.)

Great standup comics know this. They build a narrative strong enough that even a joke that goes over terribly doesn't negatively impact the overall performance. Audience members are invested in the whole, so it's hard not to overlook little things. // I think this concept is what made AVGN so much better than Nostalgia Critic in the olden days. I mean, remember Shit Pickle? People overlooked that. But very recently, I think Nostalgia Critic has gotten a lot better at this, and AVGN has gotten a lot worse. (Maybe it's because James Rolfe lost his passion, I don't know.)

Overall, I think contemporary Doug Walker knows much better how to play to his strengths (which he was godawful at originally.)
 
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PeteyCoffee said:
I think this concept is what made AVGN so much better than Nostalgia Critic in the olden days. I mean, remember Shit Pickle? People overlooked that.
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What's wrong with Shit Pickle? It's only the most obvious character ever!
 
Hawlucha said:
But he did with iron Liz. Speaking of...

I'd still call Iron Liz a "he". Moreso because he doesn't look like a woman and no real woman would ever want to establish a relationship with Linkara even if he were the last man on earth and his semen with defective genetics are the last hope of humanity's continuation until the sun swells up and torches this god-forsaken planet.

InB4 Cis-scim binary labels.
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Iron Liz is indeed very mannish, but she's no ADF. She's on hormones, got the surgery, and actually took and takes her transition process very seriously. Plus, she actually has some humility about the whole stupid mess she had with Linkara. And I'll always love her for taking Lewis' ego down a peg even though her videos for TGWTG were, if I'm not mistaken, pretty bad.

Fight the real enemy, mano.

Hawlucha said:
Ugh, that was the worst and most lazy impersonation of someone who is already bad and lazy at the same time.

But the funny thing is that Doug is jealous of Wiseau's success as an ironically abysmal director, actor and filmmaker for making a "so bad it's acceptable" movie about his own life so infamous and memetic, something Doug had tried with Kickassia and didn't quite meet the same standards "The Room" (or even AVGN's shitfest of a movie for that matter) did.

While Machimina and other big-shot internet networks are begging for Tommy to make appearances in their shows (no doubt to mock and laugh at his Pan-European accent and pitch in the never-tiring "Oh hi Mark" quote) Doug and co. tried to lure MTV and have crossovers with other shows to no avail.
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Doug wasn't trying to make a "so bad it's good" movie. He was trying to make a comedic satire of some sort. It failed miserably both as a movie itself and as a comedy because it was in on its own jokes and Doug's completely incompetent as a filmmaker.

It's like Seltzerberg for nerds. And Kickassia isn't even the worst production he's made. At least I hope it's not since I've never seen it all the way through and Demo Reel was so atrocious I almost can't believe anyone could make something worse that didn't involve some sort of horrible sex angle.
 
Hawlucha said:
Ugh, that was the worst and most lazy impersonation of someone who is already bad and lazy at the same time.

But the funny thing is that Doug is jealous of Wiseau's success as an ironically abysmal director, actor and filmmaker for making a "so bad it's acceptable" movie about his own life so infamous and memetic, something Doug had tried with Kickassia and didn't quite meet the same standards "The Room" (or even AVGN's shitfest of a movie for that matter) did.

While Machimina and other big-shot internet networks are begging for Tommy to make appearances in their shows (no doubt to mock and laugh at his Pan-European accent and pitch in the never-tiring "Oh hi Mark" quote) Doug and co. tried to lure MTV and have crossovers with other shows to no avail.
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I always thought the Nostalgia Critic films were simply meant to fit in as many ThatGuyWithTheGlasses contributors as possible, and to provide them all an excuse to meet up and have a great time filming and hanging out. I thought Kickassia didn't even have a script. (Might not be remembering that right.)

Edit - Kickassia evidently had a script.

Second edit - I've read a lot more about this, and the general consensus is that they took Kickassia seriously and thought it was going to be really good. Even Lordkat said this. So I was probably wrong.
 
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Red_Rager said:
The interview she did with the Internet Aristocrat improved my opinion of her a lot. She acknowledges she is and will always be a biological man genetically, and has gone through the trouble of getting properly diagnosed. She does not let being trans define her; she is not just a transwomen but is a women. I recommend watching the interview, she is not a fan of the SJW community at all. Probably why she and Linkara didn't stay together or at least one of the reasons.
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I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure another strong contributing factor was that Iron Liz wanted to make the full transition. Apparently she's pretty certain Lewis is very far in the closet.
 
*Asterisk* said:
I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure another strong contributing factor was that Iron Liz wanted to make the full transition. Apparently she's pretty certain Lewis is very far in the closet.
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of the critics that are left on CA, there are only three that I really like to watch: Film Brain, Ben the sage and Brad. The rest of them I don't give much thoughts about.
 
So given how a couple pages back you guys talked about Hope Chapman, or JesuOtaku? Well, I found some gems on Tumblr that showcases Hope's 'intelligence and grace' (or in other words whine and being a cunt).

http://nobszone.tumblr.com/post/83243396417/really-quite-frankly-an-open-letter-to-jesuotaku

http://ikkinthekitsune.tumblr.com/post/99167492164/p1-you-may-know-hope-better-as-the-jesuotaku-from

Man, I can smell Hope becoming a lowcow or something - egotism, cowardice, and complaining a lot on Twitter...hoo boy.
 
Dilbertmann said:
So given how a couple pages back you guys talked about Hope Chapman, or JesuOtaku? Well, I found some gems on Tumblr that showcases Hope's 'intelligence and grace' (or in other words whine and being a cunt).

http://nobszone.tumblr.com/post/83243396417/really-quite-frankly-an-open-letter-to-jesuotaku

http://ikkinthekitsune.tumblr.com/post/99167492164/p1-you-may-know-hope-better-as-the-jesuotaku-from

Man, I can smell Hope becoming a lowcow or something - egotism, cowardice, and complaining a lot on Twitter...hoo boy.
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The more I see this sort of stuff on JO, the more I regret being a fan of her videos back in the day. She comes across as a genuinely unpleasant person (and this is before all the stuff I learned about her and Nash). Seriously though, she needs a thread all her own.
 
Dilbertmann said:
So given how a couple pages back you guys talked about Hope Chapman, or JesuOtaku? Well, I found some gems on Tumblr that showcases Hope's 'intelligence and grace' (or in other words whine and being a cunt).

http://nobszone.tumblr.com/post/83243396417/really-quite-frankly-an-open-letter-to-jesuotaku

http://ikkinthekitsune.tumblr.com/post/99167492164/p1-you-may-know-hope-better-as-the-jesuotaku-from

Man, I can smell Hope becoming a lowcow or something - egotism, cowardice, and complaining a lot on Twitter...hoo boy.
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Apparently when Lupa came out and said she was harassed Hope decided that was the time to say she was also harassed. This was a couple months after she had left CA, so it was just her piggybacking for some fame.
 
BritBong said:
Apparently when Lupa came out and said she was harassed Hope decided that was the time to say she was also harassed. This was a couple months after she had left CA, so it was just her piggybacking for some fame.
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I remember Lordkat calling her out on this and went on a epic rant about how shitty she was.
 
Dilbertmann said:
So given how a couple pages back you guys talked about Hope Chapman, or JesuOtaku? Well, I found some gems on Tumblr that showcases Hope's 'intelligence and grace' (or in other words whine and being a cunt).

http://nobszone.tumblr.com/post/83243396417/really-quite-frankly-an-open-letter-to-jesuotaku

http://ikkinthekitsune.tumblr.com/post/99167492164/p1-you-may-know-hope-better-as-the-jesuotaku-from

Man, I can smell Hope becoming a lowcow or something - egotism, cowardice, and complaining a lot on Twitter...hoo boy.
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Well you certainly discovered one new lolcow:

The Nobzone Guy said:
My name is Helios. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I am a caucasian, cisgendered, heterosexual male in his early twenties. I am both a furry and a brony. I even vote Republican.
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That aside, you're totally right about Hope being terrible. I actually like her videos: but she's such a terrible person, a hypocrite, and an absolute coward. Not nearly enough people give her shit for it.
 
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