Alcoholism Support Thread - Down the hatch

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I stopped drinking but i was getting lingering chest pains so had a few and it went away. Does anyone ever get this? I'm wanting to stop it but need to wean myself off. Dont want to have a sudden heart attack from cutting it off completely. The thing is if i try to only have a few I end up on a mad one.
 
I stopped drinking but i was getting lingering chest pains so had a few and it went away. Does anyone ever get this? I'm wanting to stop it but need to wean myself off. Dont want to have a sudden heart attack from cutting it off completely. The thing is if i try to only have a few I end up on a mad one.
What were you drinking? Liquor?
And what's your blood pressure like?
 
I stopped drinking but i was getting lingering chest pains so had a few and it went away. Does anyone ever get this? I'm wanting to stop it but need to wean myself off. Dont want to have a sudden heart attack from cutting it off completely. The thing is if i try to only have a few I end up on a mad one.
Alcohol withdrawal causes a catecholamine surge which will increase your heart rate. Increased heart rate means higher oxygen demand in your cardiac tissue. If it's not getting enough oxygen it starts dying and you get chest pain.

Most common cause of your heart not being able to move enough oxygen to meet its demands would be underlying coronary artery disease or heart failure (including alcoholic cardiomyopathy) Less common causes would be stress cardiomyopathy (aka Takotsubo) or congenital disorders (HCM, valvular disorders, lots of stuff here)

I really would suggest doing a medical detox instead of tapering in this case
 
I tried to go as long as possible without drinking after Cobes died, but I only lasted a few days. I keep telling myself it's okay because I take days off with no withdrawals, but my health is just destroyed. I'm already fat with asthma, and sleep all day when I'm hungover on days off. I really need to find a way to stop or drastically cut back sometime soon.

I don't want to try medicine for multiple reasons. I know I can do it, I feel disappointed in myself and know I have a problem, so I'm at least a step ahead the random drunk hobo doing anything for rotgut liquor. But I also know I'm probably not far away from that. It's a very (ironically) sobering feeling. Hopefully I can use this feeling to push me in the right direction.
 
Out of curiosity, how bored is everyone here in this thread? Besides work, gayiming and shitposting, how bored are you?
Usually very bored, and I absolutely know that's a contribution to my alcoholism. I always think well, I'm not going to do anything else today...

People always say to get a hobby to distract you, but every attempt I've had doesn't hold my attention. Plus, I always think how much better doing something would be if I was a little buzzed.
 
Usually very bored, and I absolutely know that's a contribution to my alcoholism. I always think well, I'm not going to do anything else today...

People always say to get a hobby to distract you, but every attempt I've had doesn't hold my attention. Plus, I always think how much better doing something would be if I was a little buzzed.
Do you work a very physically/mentally demanding job or can you afford to be extra tired for a bit? I was slamming a pint of liquor every evening for the past 8 years or so and now I've tapered off for safety reasons. Now I'm going cold turkey and I've been getting into fasting to detox and shed the fatty fat. Can't have alcohol during a fast. I'm 2 weeks into only green tea and water and I feel the opposite of hungover apart from some on and off fatigue. If you're already spending lots of time sitting on your ass being bored then letting your body eat itself and heal could be an option, just don't kill yourself with it. At about 3 days in my desire for alcohol and other vices disappeared and it's been thoughts about cheeseburgers. I know that if I drink alcohol right now my stomach will hurl it all up. It's been good discipline training and great on saving money though if I worked in construction or something I probably wouldn't be able to do it too much. I am not a health professional and I pulled this advice out of my ass.
 
I stopped drinking but i was getting lingering chest pains so had a few and it went away. Does anyone ever get this? I'm wanting to stop it but need to wean myself off. Dont want to have a sudden heart attack from cutting it off completely. The thing is if i try to only have a few I end up on a mad one.
It could be anxiety for all you know, but talk to your doctor. They deal with this shit all the time and can help determine if you need detox. There's literally a medical assessment test they administer in the office to determine how banged up you are and it's based on presenting symptoms, so it's non-invasive.
I tried to go as long as possible without drinking after Cobes died, but I only lasted a few days. I keep telling myself it's okay because I take days off with no withdrawals, but my health is just destroyed. I'm already fat with asthma, and sleep all day when I'm hungover on days off. I really need to find a way to stop or drastically cut back sometime soon.

I don't want to try medicine for multiple reasons. I know I can do it, I feel disappointed in myself and know I have a problem, so I'm at least a step ahead the random drunk hobo doing anything for rotgut liquor. But I also know I'm probably not far away from that. It's a very (ironically) sobering feeling. Hopefully I can use this feeling to push me in the right direction.
Nigger, go to the doctor. As someone that drank like a pig and was both afraid and ashamed of going to the doctor with this, it's the safest and easiest way to deal with the physical effects of alcoholism and withdrawals.
Out of curiosity, how bored is everyone here in this thread? Besides work, gayiming and shitposting, how bored are you?
I was anhedonic my first few months sober while my brain reset. I still get bored but replace it with something. Play vidya, play bass, watch a video, write something, read something. It doesn't help that I have ADD and fried my dopamine circuits with alcohol for years.
 
I was anhedonic my first few months sober while my brain reset. I still get bored but replace it with something. Play vidya, play bass, watch a video, write something, read something. It doesn't help that I have ADD and fried my dopamine circuits with alcohol for years.
I'm finding it hard to actually push myself even though I'm not bored. Whenever I get back to my list of shit to do I am just not achieving much. I have ADD so trying to balance that with no alcohol is definitely hard.
 
People always say to get a hobby to distract you, but every attempt I've had doesn't hold my attention. Plus, I always think how much better doing something would be if I was a little buzzed.
This is normal. You're going to suffer from anhedonia for a while.

The reason why a lot of AA vets recommend 90 in 90 is that it gives you something concrete to do that eats up time and reminds you why you're getting sober.
 
Do you work a very physically/mentally demanding job or can you afford to be extra tired for a bit? I was slamming a pint of liquor every evening for the past 8 years or so and now I've tapered off for safety reasons. Now I'm going cold turkey and I've been getting into fasting to detox and shed the fatty fat. Can't have alcohol during a fast. I'm 2 weeks into only green tea and water and I feel the opposite of hungover apart from some on and off fatigue. If you're already spending lots of time sitting on your ass being bored then letting your body eat itself and heal could be an option, just don't kill yourself with it. At about 3 days in my desire for alcohol and other vices disappeared and it's been thoughts about cheeseburgers. I know that if I drink alcohol right now my stomach will hurl it all up. It's been good discipline training and great on saving money though if I worked in construction or something I probably wouldn't be able to do it too much. I am not a health professional and I pulled this advice out of my ass.
Nah, I'm at the computer most of the time. I've been thinking about fasting for a while, one of my friends recommended it to me for non-alcoholic related reasons already so it's been on my mind.

Sorry for sperging out in here yesterday everyone, I reread what I wrote while I was drunk and it was pretty embarrassing, but enlightening. I guess even when I'm drunk now I'm not happy. I'm gonna try to stay out of here for a bit, but thanks to the people who responded, I'm gonna try my best to cut back at least.
 
I tried to go as long as possible without drinking after Cobes died, but I only lasted a few days. I keep telling myself it's okay because I take days off with no withdrawals, but my health is just destroyed. I'm already fat with asthma, and sleep all day when I'm hungover on days off. I really need to find a way to stop or drastically cut back sometime soon.

I don't want to try medicine for multiple reasons. I know I can do it, I feel disappointed in myself and know I have a problem, so I'm at least a step ahead the random drunk hobo doing anything for rotgut liquor. But I also know I'm probably not far away from that. It's a very (ironically) sobering feeling. Hopefully I can use this feeling to push me in the right direction.
quitting drinking is like losing an old friend. it's a massive change. but just take it one day at a time. don't swear it off forever---just swear it off for a day, every day. then the days add up.

AA is worth a shot if you haven't tried it. they have online meetings too. just pop in and listen. you may find people who are or were struggling just like you. it can help provide some motivation that you too can indeed do it, and it's worth doing. or not AA, just anyone in your life who you know has managed to quit for good---see how they did it and what you can learn from them.

I stopped drinking but i was getting lingering chest pains so had a few and it went away. Does anyone ever get this? I'm wanting to stop it but need to wean myself off. Dont want to have a sudden heart attack from cutting it off completely. The thing is if i try to only have a few I end up on a mad one.
when i first stopped drinking about 4 days sober i almost got in a car accident because i couldn't breathe and had chest pains and a full-on panic attack while driving on the highway. it was completely bonkers. tony soprano style panic attack behind the wheel. insane. but nothing was wrong. alcohol just fucks with anxiety, and quitting it for a stretch of time can have a huge impact on your body. (and i DID get checked out after that, and came back everything was fine).

Out of curiosity, how bored is everyone here in this thread? Besides work, gayiming and shitposting, how bored are you?
seldom. overworked and underpaid and constantly doing shit. i can't even keep up with myself. but i like to keep tabs on this thread in case people need help.

People always say to get a hobby to distract you, but every attempt I've had doesn't hold my attention. Plus, I always think how much better doing something would be if I was a little buzzed.
alcoholic cynicism is real. watching a sunset just doesn't stand a chance compared to downing a bottle of booze. but the reality is there is nothing on Earth that is better with a buzz. alcoholics think the opposite, i know, i've been there, but it's a delusion. many hobbies seem boring because alcohol trips your reward system in your brain to crave instant gratification. the effort -> euphoria connection is sapped. it recovers, but it takes time. definitely second what @Froggy Fresh Sextape said about 90 and 90. AA gives structure---like scaffolding---in early recovery while you figure shit out. you're not gonna start painting or fishing after 3 days sober and suddenly be immersed and have your life be saved. that's not how it works.

good luck!
 
put a black pen marker on a bottle when you start

You've already been offered suggestions in this thread and refused them.

You're missing out on basically the entire world when you discount everyone from being an interesting person.

Joe who has been sober for a while month and he starts saying how his life is 100% better. His wife took him back, his probation officer is proud of him, he has been saving money, everything is perfect now!
But Joe hasn't changed any of his own behaviors. He is just seeing people who support him trying to help. Inevitably something in his life will upset him and he's going to fuck up

if you're already addicted to doomscrolling, coffee and parties at 34, your "daddy needs time off too!" rings hollow.

Video games were my first crutch, escapism from a violent dysfunctional life I was too small to do anything about, and too small to reliably get substances to abuse.

alcoholism is attached at the hip with internet use for a lot of people

Steve O said he didn't become an alcoholic until after he quit drinking.

my dad and his friends thought it was funny to give the toddler alcohol and watch him stumble around

Eventually people got tired of that pattern, and disappeared or didn't tell me the things I wanted to hear.

My son looks at me, then goes off upstairs after her. I don't. I get my coat. Fuck all this.

I walk to the pub.

if you live life for yourself and avoid things that you feel embarrassing, you'd be rid of addiction

it feels good to not be holding onto something that isn't working
 
Cutting down is a start, but if you find yourself stuck in that loop of "just one or two," I'd say don't wait until it snowballs again. I was in the same spot - counting, moderating, then falling right back into old patterns. What turned it for me was treatment.

I went to Legacy Healing Center in Cherry Hill, and the biggest difference was how personalized it felt. They didn't just talk at me; they dug into the reasons I kept drinking and taught me ways to deal with cravings that actually worked
 
I tried switching to edibles to cut back on alcohol but hated how they made me feel compared to being drunk.
replacing one form of alcohol with another form of alcohol usually doesn't work.

i replaced booze with pot several times and every time i just ended up getting drunk sooner or later. also, i tried to smoke/eat edibles like i drank and i felt like a complete mouth-drooling retard for days on end even after my last one. pot is HARD on your brain (i mean, booze is too, but it's a different mechanism).

the only time i ever got sober and stayed sober was from just being sober all the time and learning to deal with life sober. short of that, i was drunk and miserable in one form or another.
 
replacing one form of alcohol with another form of alcohol usually doesn't work.

i replaced booze with pot several times and every time i just ended up getting drunk sooner or later. also, i tried to smoke/eat edibles like i drank and i felt like a complete mouth-drooling retard for days on end even after my last one. pot is HARD on your brain (i mean, booze is too, but it's a different mechanism).

the only time i ever got sober and stayed sober was from just being sober all the time and learning to deal with life sober. short of that, i was drunk and miserable in one form or another.
That's actually good to know. I've had multiple people tell me that switching to weed will totally cure me and I won't need alcohol anymore, but I always thought it was more trouble than it was worth switching from one addiction to another and wouldn't help anything. I'm glad I wasn't going insane thinking that weed is just another addiction.
 
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