Alcoholism Support Thread - Down the hatch

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Pink cloud for me came from getting honest with myself and others (alcoholics) about some of the worst experiences, memories, and actions in life. Having a back and forth conversation based on understanding and levity rather than anger, regret and disappointment was a new experience for me. Having a feeling that the past does not define the future gave me a new outlook rather than a dread of feeling doomed to failure, like a trapped dog.

The cessation of alcohol didn't bring about anything new in my life. Doing new things with my life brought about new experiences. And that felt euphoric, though that feeling doesn't last, which is the "pink cloud".
 
I Hate The Disabled said:
I did, at least I think I did. I think it was more anxiety than actual withdrawal symptoms. It's sometimes hard to tell the difference. I'm day 3 in, and besides feeling emotionally dull, I feel fine.
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The more times you quit cold turkey and go through the hangxiety the quicker you'll be to get the same symptoms but faster next time. Are you quitting forever? Life is much more vibrant and enjoyable when you aren't drunk all the time. I've done more in the last 2 years completely sober than I did in the last decade when I was drinking. One of the first symptoms of post-SHW is insomnia due to the GABA receptor regulation behind the anxiety. If you believe you'll binge again in the future or aren't quitting forever I would highly recommend weaning instead of cold turkey quitting. Cutting about 10% of your daily drinks, daily, every day is an easy way to avoid this.

Also the nigger posting above mentioned you shouldn't smoke weed or replace your alcohol addiction with weed however if it works for you I would say it's fine. I bought CBD isolate and would take that for the initial insomnia. If you take about 2ml of 200mg/ml isolate you'll reduce the withdrawal symptoms to almost nothing. A lot of the horrible shit comes from the insomnia— at least for me.
 
I Hate The Disabled said:
I did, at least I think I did. I think it was more anxiety than actual withdrawal symptoms. It's sometimes hard to tell the difference. I'm day 3 in, and besides feeling emotionally dull, I feel fine.
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Anxiety is a major withdrawal symptom. However, if you're three days out and feeling better, then you're probably in the clear for any nasty withdrawal symptoms. They can sneak up on you after that point, but it's rare.

Also, @Not Xavier Ravenblood is correct and that effect is known as kindling. It's no fucking joke.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Anxiety is a major withdrawal symptom. However, if you're three days out and feeling better, then you're probably in the clear for any nasty withdrawal symptoms. They can sneak up on you after that point, but it's rare.

Also, @Not Xavier Ravenblood is correct and that effect is known as kindling. It's no fucking joke.
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I had one little anxiety attack today, because I'm nervous about going back to work. I have some pressure around my sinuses. I wasn't such a heavy drinker that I would have to worry about siesures. But I'm not sure how I'd know I'm having one.

I figure if I was in peril, I'd be rushed to the hospital by now.
 
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I Hate The Disabled said:
I had one little anxiety attack today, because I'm nervous about going back to work. I have some pressure around my sinuses. I wasn't such a heavy drinker that I would have to worry about siesures. But I'm not sure how I'd know I'm having one.

I figure if I was in peril, I'd be rushed to the hospital by now.
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If you're on day 3-4 and haven't heard the music yet I wouldn't really worry, my guy.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
and that effect is known as kindling. It's no fucking joke.
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Neurons that fire together wire together. It's more well understood in epilepsy, but it applies to alcohol withdrawal as well.

Even if you don't seize those shadow people and opera music coming from your air conditioner are going to keep seeming realer and realer every time.
 
Froggy Fresh Sextape said:
Neurons that fire together wire together. It's more well understood in epilepsy, but it applies to alcohol withdrawal as well.

Even if you don't seize those shadow people and opera music coming from your air conditioner are going to keep seeming realer and realer every time.
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LMAO, people who know, know.
 
Been a difficult few weeks for me, bros. But I'm still here somehow. Let us continue to hope and pray - not just for ourselves, but all of us - to find peace and guidance.
 
Back when I was a boozer I convinced myself that my body was already fucked and I was on my way to death and that I should just keep drinking.

Got some health tests back today (couldn't do them sooner) and looks like my body is mostly fine. So don't sit around hurting your body on account of nothing.
 
Haven't drank in a few weeks. Too sick to do it now. I really don't have the urge outside of boredom and the thought of getting drunk totally making me wanna play games again. Other than physical health, I keep having those moments of "oh fuck what did I do yesterday? oh right i've been 100% conscious for weeks".
neger psykolog said:
Got some health tests back today (couldn't do them sooner) and looks like my body is mostly fine. So don't sit around hurting your body on account of nothing.
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Saw a short of one of those Sidemen retards and he was like "we drink all the fucking time so I got checked and he said my liver was fine", so I think it's more durable than one would imagine. I used to drank 3/5 ish of a vodka every other friday. All things considered it's not beer full of calories.
 
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
Saw a short of one of those Sidemen retards and he was like "we drink all the fucking time so I got checked and he said my liver was fine", so I think it's more durable than one would imagine.
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It depends. There are wildly different conceptions of what's considered "heavy drinking"

Medically, binge drinking is defined as six or more drinks in a day. Hardcore alkies wouldn't call that binge drinking, that's just breakfast. You really have to get context because there is a wide wide gulf between bros partying and crippling alcoholism.

I was up to about 150 units/week and managed to escape with only mild alcoholic neuropathy. Others aren't so lucky. I've seen patients in their late 20s die from decompensated cirrhosis.
 
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
Haven't drank in a few weeks. Too sick to do it now. I really don't have the urge outside of boredom and the thought of getting drunk totally making me wanna play games again. Other than physical health, I keep having those moments of "oh fuck what did I do yesterday? oh right i've been 100% conscious for weeks".
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Congrats on the period of sobriety. One of the things I don't miss about drinking is not being mentally present all the time. Sometimes I try to think back to when I was actively, heavily drinking - what I actually did with my time - and a lot of it I simply can't remember, or I remember that it was a lot of wasted time.
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
Saw a short of one of those Sidemen retards and he was like "we drink all the fucking time so I got checked and he said my liver was fine", so I think it's more durable than one would imagine. I used to drank 3/5 ish of a vodka every other friday. All things considered it's not beer full of calories.
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The liver is very durable until it isn't. Once it starts failing, it can progress pretty quickly and you're in deep shit. Plus, liver transplants are a lot more difficult than, say, a kidney transplant, and you are less likely to get tissue if you're a noncompliant alcoholic.
Froggy Fresh Sextape said:
It depends. There are wildly different conceptions of what's considered "heavy drinking"

Medically, binge drinking is defined as six or more drinks in a day. Hardcore alkies wouldn't call that binge drinking, that's just breakfast. You really have to get context because there is a wide wide gulf between bros partying and crippling alcoholism.

I was up to about 150 units/week and managed to escape with only mild alcoholic neuropathy. Others aren't so lucky. I've seen patients in their late 20s die from decompensated cirrhosis.
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Everyone is different. The only thing to note is that women generally develop alcohol-related liver problems much faster than men. I can't imagine a person in their late 20's dying of cirrhosis, though. That's tragic and requires an insane amount of alcohol.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Everyone is different. The only thing to note is that women generally develop alcohol-related liver problems much faster than men. I can't imagine a person in their late 20's dying of cirrhosis, though. That's tragic and requires an insane amount of alcohol.
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I see most of it in women thanks to the fun phenomenon of drunkorexia. Basically living off zero sugar energy drinks and hard liquor. Men do it too sometimes though. This is the superhighway to hepatorenal syndrome.

I'm in the position where I've done this shit, somehow managed to make it out, and I've seen the consequences from those who didn't make it out in time.

I don't know how to phrase things without sounding like the dumbass DARE lion but seriously, if you are reading this and concerned about how much you are drinking, turn back, there is nothing good for you here.
 
Froggy Fresh Sextape said:
I see most of it in women thanks to the fun phenomenon of drunkorexia. Basically living off zero sugar energy drinks and hard liquor. Men do it too sometimes though. This is the superhighway to hepatorenal syndrome.
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That'll do it. Even when I was drinking extremely hard, I always made sure to eat something substantial.
Froggy Fresh Sextape said:
I don't know how to phrase things without sounding like the dumbass DARE lion but seriously, if you are reading this and concerned about how much you are drinking, turn back, there is nothing good for you here.
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No one has ever said "my life was in the shitter until I started drinking alcohol."
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
No one has ever said "my life was in the shitter until I started drinking alcohol."
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I'll dispute this. Drinking certainly helped me mitigate PTSD symptoms for a long time, which in turn enabled me to be sociable enough to cultivate a support network. It served a real purpose, and while the consequences have probably been a net loss in aggregate, they were delayed in such a way that there was a period where my life really was better because of drinking. Until it wasn't.

I'm usually a big fan of epigrams and pithiness but in the context of sobriety I think they too often oversimplify something that's already frequently oversimplified. If it was that simple, people wouldn't do it.
 
I've been feeling pretty conflicted lately. As I move through my journey in sobriety, I have come to a point of wanting to be more active in a sobriety program. Christmas marks 4 and a half years that I have done without the help of a program. I'm no stranger to meetings, but they are more informal and based on connections I have made with my concert going sobriety groups. After asking some of my more close friends in those groups, it seems to me that working an actual program would be an uphill battle for me at this point. It's not so much that I want to be given pats on the back and special little coins, but I feel I've needed a change in how I handle my journey.

With that said, I think the way I've gone so far is nothing short of a miracle. To not have to rely on a sponsor or program to keep me straight is a source of pride. However, I am also aware that being too prideful is a sin and that I wish to remain humble in my sobriety. I'm not ashamed of that feeling, but I don't want it to become an all encompassing emotion that blinds my path. But for me to join a program and rebuild everything from the ground up, after nearly 5 years of work, would defeat the purpose of why I started doing this. Sobriety, for me, is not about being part of a larger community. Sobriety is about knowing my own power to change things and to accept that which I cannot change.

This can be a lonely road, fellas. But if this were an easy road to travel, more people would be on this road. I am proud to be one of the few who can traverse the path and find my rewards along the way.

Take care of yourselves, family.
 
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