KR North Korea Megathread - Dear Leader and his shenanigans

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There's so much news about North Korea right now and what Un is doing, I got a suggestion for a NK megathread, so here it is. Post the world's greatest nation's antics here. I'm merging a few of the more recent threads to continue discussion.

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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/south-korea-planning-war-decapitation-132232777.html

South Korean President Moon Jae-in has pushed for a new plan for a rapid war with North Korea and an overhaul of the country's defense industry to overwhelm and crush the North's government, the South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday.

Moon took office in May promising to attempt to engage diplomatically with North Korea and seek peace, but in the months since, the North has provoked the international community with missile tests at a blistering pace.

For some time, South Korea has been training a "decapitation force," reportedly with the help of the US Navy's SEAL Team 6, but now an increasingly bold North Korea may demand quicker action.

South Korea's new plan identifies more than 1,000 targets for precision missile fires and sites for marines to drop in and quickly kill North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, the paper reported.

The plan represents a more independent version of South Korea's current plan, which relies on support from US aircraft carriers. As it stands, no major military commander recommends military action against North Korea, which has a staggering array of conventional — and potentially nuclear — weapons pointed at Seoul, where 26 million call home.

But South Korea's new plan to quickly and decisively dominate the North relies on reforming the defense-acquisition process and cutting out wasteful spending to wield the full might of its economic dominance against Pyongyang, according to the report. For that reason, don't expect the plan to take effect anytime soon.

 

[Computery Guy]

Hold on, let me get my Fascist Regime Translation guidebook.

Mhmm, uh, according to the guide, "Fired" roughly translates to "Entire family thrown into oven". Yeah, seems about right.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Hold on, let me get my Fascist Regime Translation guidebook.

Mhmm, uh, according to the guide, "Fired" roughly translates to "Entire family thrown into oven". Yeah, seems about right.

Now if they could do the same, but with Un. The world would have at least one less dictator with autistic rage.

 

[CWCissey]

Now if they could do the same, but with Un. The world would have at least one less dictator with autistic rage.

I'm just reminded of that South African Nando's ad now...

 

[AngeloTheWizard]

Anything involving North Korea aa an instigator, whether they play attack or defense, is not going to be WW3. NK doesn't have any allies willing to go to bat for them if shit gets real. Whatever happens will be called either The Second Korean War or The Korean Revolution depending on how it goes down.

That's not to say they can't do some damage. Fatty is drunk on tard rage and has a lot of toys that go boom, so if and when things do happen, Seoul is gonna get hit, a lot. If South Korea can prepare for the inevitable retaliation, then all the better. If not...well, dust off those construction contracts, some people are gonna make bank.

Other, smarter people have already discussed what comes next, i just have to make the comment that anyone who thinks this will result in WW3 is exceptional.

 

[The Fool]

Has anyone tried asking Kim nicely to stop being mean?

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Anything involving North Korea aa an instigator, whether they play attack or defense, is not going to be WW3. NK doesn't have any allies willing to go to bat for them if shit gets real. Whatever happens will be called either The Second Korean War or The Korean Revolution depending on how it goes down.

That's not to say they can't do some damage. Fatty is drunk on tard rage and has a lot of toys that go boom, so if and when things do happen, Seoul is gonna get hit, a lot. If South Korea can prepare for the inevitable retaliation, then all the better. If not...well, dust off those construction contracts, some people are gonna make bank.

Other, smarter people have already discussed what comes next, i just have to make the comment that anyone who thinks this will result in WW3 is exceptional.

Pretty much.

If this were WW3, then it'd be a pretty damn unfair one given how even their "allies" are considering of turning on them (Russia moreso than China). But I could see this as "Korean War II", but with the Norks against the rest of the world.

It's just a matter on how much damage Seoul, Japan or any other countries and/or cities would sustain if Kim isn't predisposed of as soon as possible.

Has anyone tried asking Kim nicely to stop being mean?

China has, but nothing's gotten through to his exceptional mind. Which is probably the reason why they agreed to those sanctions that were voted on a few weeks back.

 

[CWCissey]

Has anyone tried asking Kim nicely to stop being mean?

Jeremy Corbyn probably.

 

[The Fool]

China has, but nothing's gotten through to his exceptional mind. Which is probably the reason why they agreed to those sanctions that were voted on a few weeks back.

I think we should make an episode of My Little Pony to get the message across

 

[CWCissey]

I think we should make an episode of My Little Pony to get the message across

 

[Computery Guy]

Has anyone tried asking Kim nicely to stop being mean?

You mean literally the only thing the UN is actually able to do?

 

[CWCchange]

I think we should make an episode of My Little Pony to get the message across

Koreans used to fuck horses and eat them, whether a fatass like KJU or a starving North Korean, so it might start a sex and hunger-fueled rage.

 

[Ravenor]

Anything involving North Korea aa an instigator, whether they play attack or defense, is not going to be WW3. NK doesn't have any allies willing to go to bat for them if shit gets real. Whatever happens will be called either The Second Korean War or The Korean Revolution depending on how it goes down.

They are very wary of billing anything as a world war, seriously it's one of those terms that tends to escalate the situation very quickly.

That's not to say they can't do some damage. Fatty is drunk on tard rage and has a lot of toys that go boom, so if and when things do happen, Seoul is gonna get hit, a lot. If South Korea can prepare for the inevitable retaliation, then all the better. If not...well, dust off those construction contracts, some people are gonna make bank.

Fatty has <20 nukes total and most of them won't function correctly and he lacks a reliable delivery mechanism and if he tried to have a fit of tard rage with a real nuclear weapon he would have to deliver it by air and by aircraft considering that his air force is old and poorly maintained they would be dealt with very shortly, what's more concerning is the damage he would do the 30km border region i.e. Seoul which is arguably the most important financial center of the region.

Other, smarter people have already discussed what comes next, i just have to make the comment that anyone who thinks this will result in WW3 is exceptional.

It won't come to that nobody wants to risk it, China for all its bluster isn't prepared for a world war and are as sick of NK as most countries with the exception being that they are about the only country they are on anything approaching good terms with and most of that is NK begging China for aid in return for stalling the Meth supply going across the border for a month or two in exchange. The only thing they are willing to do for NK now is prop them up for a while longer but would be happy for the problem to resolve it's self without them having to get involved.

 

[AngeloTheWizard]

I agree with you mostly, @Ravenor, except that I'm not hugely concerned about Fatty firing off nukes, I'm more worried about conventional rockets and missiles that just go boom. I don't know the state of that gear but I'm definitely more worried about Seoul getting hammered by regular bombs then getting Hiroshimaed.

 

[XYZpdq]

But at least throughout the decades North Korea has received aid from other countries. Totally removing foreign aid (even China) would escalate the decline of Kim Jong-Un's regime and with no assistance, it may lead to a revolt from the peasants with no hope of food or water.

As far as I've heard aid has nothing to do with whether or not the people of North Korea starve. The government keeps it for themselves and sells the rest to buy nice shit.
Those people in the blurry cam shots digging dirt aren't doing it because that's where the UN hid the rations, that's because dirt's all that's on their menu.

 

[CWCchange]

Fatty has <20 nukes total and most of them won't function correctly and he lacks a reliable delivery mechanism and if he tried to have a fit of tard rage with a real nuclear weapon he would have to deliver it by air and by aircraft considering that his air force is old and poorly maintained they would be dealt with very shortly, what's more concerning is the damage he would do the 30km border region i.e. Seoul which is arguably the most important financial center of the region.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...e-could-be-its-most-dangerous-weapon-yet.html

If something like that can get to Seoul or Tokyo without being shot down in the wilderness or ocean, blow me.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't see why we can't go the same route as with Japan: Nuke the shit out of them, force a Western constitution down their throats (with a section saying that they are never allowed to have a military or go to war), and become best friends.

Even after firebombing the fuck out of virtually everything standing in Japan and then nuking the rest, it was still a recognizable civilization. There are isolated hunter-gatherer tribes less fucked up and backward than North Korea, though. Most of the population is literally unfit for human society.

 

[Ravenor]

I agree with you mostly, @Ravenor, except that I'm not hugely concerned about Fatty firing off nukes, I'm more worried about conventional rockets and missiles that just go boom. I don't know the state of that gear but I'm definitely more worried about Seoul getting hammered by regular bombs then getting Hiroshimaed.

As I said the nukes are pretty much a non-issue, I see him being more likely to use them on hos own soil more than anything else if there was a ground war as a final fuck you as the SK army rolled in. Most of there stuff pointing towards SK is old hell lots of there Artillery is that old you can't get ammunition for it on the open market and people don't like selling NK weapons at all even under hand, there are lots of those gun positions that are just telegraph poles painted to look like gun barrels and any position that is legitimately active wouldn't be active for a second volly, as American anti artillery tactics and techniques are fucking brutally effective even mobile units wouldnt last long in a shoot an scoot because they just can't supply them with enough ammunition because as I said they have serious supply problems.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...e-could-be-its-most-dangerous-weapon-yet.html

If something like that can get to Seoul or Tokyo without being shot down in the wilderness or ocean, blow me.

Well funny you should mention that the RAF used antiquated aircraft to fuck up the Bismark, however, those aircraft are about the average of there air fleet.

 

[AnOminous]

>They wanna go it alone
I hope they realize without US support before the invasion, Seoul would get artillery striked until flattened

I don't think they want to go it alone. I think they just recognize it's entirely possible something will happen very quickly and they need to be able to react themselves before the U.S. gets its shit together to mount a response.

Any jump they can get on the situation minimizes damage on their own turf, and it'd be a lot better for them if when the U.S. shows up to smash shit and blow shit up, we're blowing shit up in Pyongyang rather than blowing shit up in Seoul to recapture it.

Anything involving North Korea aa an instigator, whether they play attack or defense, is not going to be WW3. NK doesn't have any allies willing to go to bat for them if shit gets real. Whatever happens will be called either The Second Korean War or The Korean Revolution depending on how it goes down.

Nobody is going to defend North Korea. North Korea will effectively cease to exist within days or even hours of any act of aggression by them.

The problem will be the aftermath. China is not going to tolerate a reunified Korea on its border, so at the very least, they're going to move in loaded for bear to seize a buffer zone, or try for the whole country.

Meanwhile, whatever alliance gets behind South Korea and Japan and the U.S. is going to be doing the same thing from the other direction.

If we haven't already more or less explicitly cut a deal on how that goes down, things could get very dicey at that point if we find ourselves at an impasse where neither side is willing to back down.

This would happen even in normal circumstances, but with a blundering, inexperienced hothead in the White House, it could go very far south very quickly.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...e-could-be-its-most-dangerous-weapon-yet.html

If something like that can get to Seoul or Tokyo without being shot down in the wilderness or ocean, blow me.

Seoul or Tokyo nothing. If anything, Kim could bomb whoever he damn well feels like if those planes get used. And everyone's a target, even the countries he hasn't threatened yet.

Hell, I'd laugh if he tried that shit out in Saudi Arabia or Israel.

 

[CWCchange]

I don't think they want to go it alone. I think they just recognize it's entirely possible something will happen very quickly and they need to be able to react themselves before the U.S. gets its shit together to mount a response.

Any jump they can get on the situation minimizes damage on their own turf, and it'd be a lot better for them if when the U.S. shows up to smash shit and blow shit up, we're blowing shit up in Pyongyang rather than blowing shit up in Seoul to recapture it.

If the Norks make it to Seoul, all you have to do is poison all the food at supermarkets and convenience stores and lay low. Most soldiers would all be dead by the time they figure out how to control the city.