Culture Why don’t straight men read novels? - Men often read non-fiction books in the name of self-improvement – but many are reluctant to pick up works of fiction

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Dazed (Archive) - July 22, 2024
by, Georgina Elliot

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Alex, 24, thinks reading for pleasure is a waste of time. Instead, he reads to learn about current affairs, maths, and Black history. Similarly, Finn*, 24, has only read one fictional book outside of his childhood. “I don’t really find the time to read, but if I do, it’s usually non-fiction,” he says.

Alex and Finn* both feel compelled to make ‘good’ use of their time – ‘good’ being a capitalist innuendo for ‘productive’. In our increasingly time-poor, grind-obsessed hellscape — 7-9 gym, 9-5 work, and 5-9 side hustle — coming up for air from being a cog and curling up with a novel just because you want to is a borderline sensual pleasure. “Our culture makes a fetish of practical outcomes, and perhaps because the outcomes of fiction-reading don’t patently lead to higher wages, it seems less worthy,” says Suzanne Keen, Professor of English at Scripps College.

Generally speaking, reading is an indulgence that women permit themselves more than men. In 2022, Deloitte predicted boys and men would continue to spend less time reading books and read them less frequently than women and girls. They were right: in 2023, women made up 80 per cent of the book-buying market in the UK, US, and Canada, and accounted for 65 per cent of all fiction purchases in the UK according to Nielson BookData. The bookish man is a rare species. Case in point: 1.2 million people follow the @hotdudesreading Instagram.

Meanwhile, masculinity continues to be in crisis. Men between the ages of 18 and 34 feel the most pressure of any generation to conform to ‘masculine’ behaviours. In the absence of a positive blueprint of how to exist in the post-MeToo world, a community of podcasting ‘manfluencers’, including ex-navy SEALs Jocko Willink and David Goggins and neuroscientist Dr Andrew Hubermann, have rushed in to promote their idea of what masculinity should look like. Self-improvement, ambition, and ‘growth mindsets’ are the banner messaging of this male-coded media world where Andrew Tate reigns supreme and the aim of the game is to optimise every waking moment to become a financially successful ‘sigma’. Doubtless many men enjoy the fact that reading non-fiction gives them an excuse to peacock their newfound knowledge and mansplain their latest read to their next Hinge date, too (bonus points if it’s Capitalist Realism).

This idea of the hyper-capitalist man with no time for something as ‘pointless’ as reading began to take root in the Victorian era. In the 19th century, reading novels developed a reputation as a frivolous and feminised activity as bourgeois women, imprisoned in the private sphere, took up reading bodice-ripping paperbacks as a pastime. Conversely, ‘serious men’ of the public sphere incubated capitalist messaging: any interest in reading had to be justified by practical utility. While for most of British history, men’s literacy rates far outstripped women’s, by 1900 literacy was actually more diffused among women. As author Leah Price put it in her book How to Do Things with Nooks in Victorian Britain: “Once a sign of economic power, reading is now the province of those whose time lacks market value.”

It is a cultural hangover that persists. A “cult of productivity is still imposed more on men than women,” says Dr Alistair Brown, Assistant Professor of Digital Humanities and Modern Literature at Durham University. “[Non-fiction] seems to have more immediate or meaningful returns on the investment of time.” Consequently, men buy more: in 2023, men accounted for 55 per cent of non-fiction book sales, Nielsen BookData tells Dazed.

Today’s problem also has its roots in the gender encampments of childhood. Boys are less likely to have male reading role models and are generally nudged by parents, teachers, and product marketers in the direction of other pastimes, particularly sports. By comparison, girls are encouraged to read and have a model of peer-to-peer engagement through their mums’ book clubs. So, naturally, girls spend more time reading and reading fiction than boys. This is, as ever, an intersectional issue: boys on free school meals read less than anyone else.

By the time their tween years swings around, a line is firmly drawn. Chris*, 21, who has recently completed his second fiction book in ten years, said he stopped reading at the age of 11 despite previously being a fan of fantasy books because he had “better things to do.” Naturally, such a stereotype cannibalises itself and ends up being reflected by the market. Young adult fiction is the near-total domain of the teenage girl — including what is made, marketed, sold, and read.

As we cut off the legs off future readers, “our culture closes off opportunities for boys and men,” says Professor Keen, who is also an expert in narrative empathy. “Consciously or not [we promote] a model of masculinity that is less introspective, less attuned to others, and less contemplative.”

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Could reading stories offer an alternative route through the masculinity crisis? By creating “a safe space for allowing oneself to feel, with no strings attached,” Professor Keen suggests that reading fiction is the diametric opposite of the stale stoicism of the manosphere. It is a form of immersion therapy that demands you be present and forget yourself to a meditative end. You also become “part of a community,” which “helps you build mental companions as a bulwark against loneliness.” Accordingly, there are measurable mental health benefits such as lower stress levels, higher self-esteem, and lower rates of depression.

If men read, it helps society at large. Reading fiction opens your eyes to uncomfortable truths and unexpected perspectives that you may otherwise not have sought out. Books can surprise you by “smuggling in knowledge through the backdoor of an enjoyable and engaging story,” increasing the possibility of critical thinking when encountering the topic again, according to Dr Brown. When you read, you practice perspective-taking, adopting the inner lives of characters as your own and walking around in their shoes – something there isn’t time for with the visual immediacy of other media like film.

Reading fiction ultimately leaves you feeling full up, a stark contrast to self-improvement imperatives that demand you be more than you already are. Carving out time for such a creative pursuit “refreshes the spirit and expands our sense of possibilities,” says Professor Keen. And in case it isn’t obvious, this is a valuable use of time for men too. Men are not inert vessels for potential economic capital that needs to be squeezed out. So instead of retreating further into the hollow temple of productivity, might we suggest a prescribed course of Fourth Wing for all?

*Name has been changed
 
Anyone, journalist or not, who in any way attempts to police or shame the reading preferences of others should be acid bathed.

It is one of the most intensely personal tastes and habits each of us possesses. Fuck right off with trying to change someone else's. Books are an unmatched window into our psyche and anyone who decides they have the right to sneer at whatever books you choose to consume, for whatever reason you like, needs to be yeeted far away.

Leave me and my books the fuck alone. I don't read to be cool. I don't read for clout, or BookTok, or any of that shit. I read because I need to. Let other people do the same.
Who the fuck reads for clout.

We do, quietly.
We just not admit to gayism.
I get asked why I don't read HIGH MODERN LIT by women from time to time, only to find out it's either smut, gay shit, or "modern identity politics diaspora".

Whatever happened to just, books for men. Have we had a new writer break into fiction for men? No new Clive Cussler or Robert Ludlum or even a new Baen SF Military writer like John Ringo?
what do colors on those graphs mean? 🤔


Know who else tries to limit what people read? Totalitarian dictatorships.
1984 being banned for alt-right hate speech. Don't question it.
You forgot Rumiko Takahashi, the goat that's avoided having troons slobber over her work despite making Ranma 1/2. Maison Ikkoku was kino.

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Magi is great fun. FMA is excellent. D. Grey Man. . . is on a weird eternal hiatus due to the mangaka's health. I'm familiar with the rest as decent to aight shows. You've also got the Clamp team as well. There's lots of good manga by women.

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IIRC, there's a theory that Demon Slayer was made by a woman.
 
True, I guess this absurdity is also like reading novels and such. However, the threads that I read are more political and off-topic compared to what this forum was made for. I really don't care about which tranny did what.
That's actually worse than just reading threads about fat trannies.
 
Didn't the publishers lawsuit shed a bit of light on this?

There's like a handful of authors that sell at all and otherwise publishers are just gambling on what all else people might like, so they like to gravitate towards old reliables like celebrities, oldies, and those few best sellers.

I sorta imagine something like what's done for web novels would be needed if you wanted guys to get more into novels in general in the US. Like there's a variety of sites/apps that let you purchase individual chapters of web novels or longstrip comics, which can end up doing pretty well and be pretty entertaining stuff.

Or just developing something similar to Steam where you can look up products based on relatively specific tags (which also happens with web novels). If they had something similar to that on Amazon you'd probably see a lot more purchases as you could browse through what themes you're interested in seeing in the novel.

Because really, there are tons of people writing stuff, there pretty much has to end up being something that'd appeal to every random person.
 
Anyone, journalist or not, who in any way attempts to police or shame the reading preferences of others should be acid bathed.

It is one of the most intensely personal tastes and habits each of us possesses. Fuck right off with trying to change someone else's. Books are an unmatched window into our psyche and anyone who decides they have the right to sneer at whatever books you choose to consume, for whatever reason you like, needs to be yeeted far away.

Leave me and my books the fuck alone. I don't read to be cool. I don't read for clout, or BookTok, or any of that shit. I read because I need to. Let other people do the same.
You know this might have been a valid point if you hadn't posted it right after someone posted "TOTALLY NOT BESTIALITY PROSTITUTION PORN #2 of 15!"
 
@Alexander Thaut

I eagerly await the 1/2 anime reboot because troons will make it beyond insufferabe.

And I’ll get to tell people what PokeGirls is and what them die inside lmao

As for Demon Slayer, if ypu trust people that worked at Jump, they are indeed a womem.

The writing of the story makes it very obvious as well.
 
That's actually worse than just reading threads about fat trannies.
Kinda, yeah
In the West they could be called "pickmes" if what they made is appealing to straight guys.
I'll never understand western feminists calling any woman that gives a damn about attracting men a "pick me". it removes any of the oomph of the word.

meanwhile "simp" is eternally going to make someone seethe.
I can't speak for all men, but one reason I don't read much fiction anymore is it's all hot garbage these days. The only thing of note I read in the last 5 years is "House of Leaves", other than that nothing holds my interest.
gee it's almost like an industry that hates you isn't gonna make stuff for you.
Didn't the publishers lawsuit shed a bit of light on this?

There's like a handful of authors that sell at all and otherwise publishers are just gambling on what all else people might like, so they like to gravitate towards old reliables like celebrities, oldies, and those few best sellers.
Well yeah, I remember reading this. A large portion of what sells are like puzzles and activities, biblical and regular non-fiction, "classics" and Classics.

That and books that just kinda generally appeal. Reprinting older works that sell well will just. . . sell. I guess it's why we've got a bunch of reprints of almost every classic sci-fi, fantasy, noir, and pulp writer's works in some form.,
I sorta imagine something like what's done for web novels would be needed if you wanted guys to get more into novels in general in the US. Like there's a variety of sites/apps that let you purchase individual chapters of web novels or longstrip comics, which can end up doing pretty well and be pretty entertaining stuff.

Or just developing something similar to Steam where you can look up products based on relatively specific tags (which also happens with web novels). If they had something similar to that on Amazon you'd probably see a lot more purchases as you could browse through what themes you're interested in seeing in the novel.

Because really, there are tons of people writing stuff, there pretty much has to end up being something that'd appeal to every random person.
I don't think it'd work in America. We have google books and kindle, which leave me not so sure how common they are.

Anyways men will often just pirate.

@Alexander Thaut

I eagerly await the 1/2 anime reboot because troons will make it beyond insufferabe.

And I’ll get to tell people what PokeGirls is and what them die inside lmao

As for Demon Slayer, if ypu trust people that worked at Jump, they are indeed a womem.

The writing of the story makes it very obvious as well.


The day Rumiko Takahashi dies, troons will be clamoring to revise the works.
 
Who the fuck reads for clout.
Academics, activists, and everyone who fancies themselves an intellectual.

I can't speak for all men, but one reason I don't read much fiction anymore is it's all hot garbage these days. The only thing of note I read in the last 5 years is "House of Leaves", other than that nothing holds my interest.
Even if it hasn't gotten worse, there's a miasma around literature in all it's forms today in that we assume we're going to be bombarded by insufferable wokeness, so a lot of people just steer clear.

I haven't been to a bookstore in a while for fear that authors I've been following will suddenly join the Dark Side and put a permanent dark cloud over a large portion of my bookcase.... better to just not know the details.
 
I haven't been to a bookstore in a while for fear that authors I've been following will suddenly join the Dark Side and put a permanent dark cloud over a large portion of my bookcase.... better to just not know the details.
I spent some time developing the skill of divorcing the modern person from their previous work.

King comes to mind. Most of his stuff does not hold up for me but I really like some of his stuff. I read The Langoliers from Four Past Midnight now and then to revisit. I am not going to let that fuckwad ruin something that I really enjoy.

Same with De Niro. I am not going to stop enjoying Good Fellas because he is a giant faggot now.
 
I spent some time developing the skill of divorcing the modern person from their previous work.
I wish I could, but I've never been able to pull that off.

Unlike the lefty wokescolds? I don't demand they be censored/unpersoned for it.

Or demand others boycott them.

But despite my best efforts, knowing the author is a whack-job negatively affects my ability to enjoy something they wrote going forward.

Slightly, but, it's still there.

Just the way my circuits are wired, I guess.
 
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