Vintage Story (VS) - If mc's terrafirmacraft mod was a full-blown game

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A Shi Piao Teapot said:
Ha, I've been thinking of doing the same thing at some point. What's your current idea for a server?
I have zero experience with server hosting, but looking at this page, some of these providers have discounts + mod support unlike the dev offerings. I can only assume mod support is available for these unless stated otherwise, but again, idk. Another issue is if we want to do NA or EU hosting.
Lastly, we're gonna have to decide on mods, and sadly, test the fuck out of them. Last server I played on with Medieval Expansion had the waterwheels gimped to 30% efficiency due to some weird mod conflict. It was a really cool mod, but man it was a lot of iron plates and a lot of disappointment.
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My friend hosted a server on hosthavoc and it worked pretty good with decent pricing that scales very well so I was probably going to use that. As far as NA or EU I live in NA and I would hazard a guess that most people on the forum do as well (and a lot that don't use VPN's to say they do) so it's probably for the best if it's just hosted there, not a perfect solution but it's the one I got.

I've already heavily perused the mods available and picked out a good amount I think would be nice. My main focus is to pick mods that will encourage village forming and community as well as immersion. Mods that let us run shops, a noticed board mod, a class mod that lets some of us focus on jobs like smith or lumberjack or farmer, we need some sort of communication mod and my first instinct was voip but I figured that would make forum users uncomfortable since it's a pretty privacy and anonymity centered place so I found a mod that adds proximity chat and cool RP functions like in ss13 https://mods.vintagestory.at/thebasics
At some point I'll make a big list of all the mods I want to add like butchery or the biome mod but right now I just have a mental idea.
Ser Prize said:
I'm eagerly awaiting an NPC. I want something like Minecraft Comes Alive so I can make a gay little village and have a family.
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This is probably the bedrock of what you're looking for. https://mods.vintagestory.at/vsvillage
Homostand said:
A server sounds cool. I am unsure about the practicality of it on Kiwifarms, though.
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I think it's possible, I don't see any reason kiwifarms in particular would clash with the game. The only things that It changes is that we don't need something stupid like a discord and we should probably stick to proximity chat instead of voip.
 
Tinnitus said:
How many people need to be interested to play VS for a kf server?
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I think it's less "how many" and more "who should we allow." It's amazing how the KF SS13 server isn't fucked but maybe he VS community is less autistically hostile to people they'll probably perceive as super Nazi's. Hopefully this hypothetical server would be small enough to not incur the wrath of DDoSing trannies. Servers made by and for people like Kiwis and 4chinners tend to go belly up for multiple reasons even beyond seething zippertits.
A Shi Piao Teapot said:
I have zero experience with server hosting, but looking at this page, some of these providers have discounts + mod support unlike the dev offerings. I can only assume mod support is available for these unless stated otherwise, but again, idk. Another issue is if we want to do NA or EU hosting.
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I remember Rimmy's session and how they got a bunch of people playing together (with mods I believe) so it shouldn't be too hard to set up. And I think they were from both NA and the EU.
Ser Prize said:
gay little village
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Ser Prize said:
have a family
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Sorry I had too.
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Yeah yeah I know gays can start a family, but given how poorly non-nuclear families function...anyway I'm getting ahead of myself for a "haha gay village" joke.
 
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Tri-Tachyon'sClown said:
I think it's less "how many" and more "who should we allow." It's amazing how the KF SS13 server isn't fucked but maybe he VS community is less autistically hostile to people they'll probably perceive as super Nazi's. Hopefully this hypothetical server would be small enough to not incur the wrath of DDoSing trannies. Servers made by and for people like Kiwis and 4chinners tend to go belly up for multiple reasons even beyond seething zippertits.
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Honestly I wouldn't even put the server on the public server list, just make a thread for it and put the IP name and password Into the OP. Sure people that hate the site visit it but usually only to look at their own thread or the thread of whoever they like.

I don't think we'd get many outside visitors or that the server would get fucked with.
 
In the hypothetical future where the server exists, it should be posted and shown publicly. Upon joining the players will be greeted by super propaganda, and will be asked to summarize Mein Kampf.

The entire spawn area shall be dedicated to Kiwi's tranny death count, and the troons next on the list, so that everyone knows what's up.

If anyone tries DDOSing the server, we shall dox them and then send ultra racist missiles to their house.
 
God's strongest milkman said:
Honestly I wouldn't even put the server on the public server list, just make a thread for it and put the IP name and password Into the OP.
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Dear God no, that would be worse. I wasn't talking about putting it public either, because even with a whitelist and vet system on this thread it barely eases my worries.
Homostand said:
then send ultra racist missiles to their house.
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In Minecr-Vintage Story.
 
Would you require an VPN if hypothetically such server is made, or is the VS system good enough to IP shield on it's own?
 
I was specifically looking at HostHavoc which I believe has a pretty good reputation for those sorts of things. If there's a more security oriented hosting provider for Vintage Story I'd be more than willing to look at it.

I seriously don't see some huge tragedy of security coming from a server that's for a game that's not even mainstream. Ss13 is run by trannies and redditor and they function and I think there's a kiwifarms TF2 server which is also flooded with trannies and I think they still do ok.

As long as we don't call the server "niggerkillingcentral" and advertise it as some sort of den of evil I don't see an issue.

Although who knows? Maybe Greer sues us because someone copies his book in the game and sells it for rusty gears to another player violating his copyright.
 
God's strongest milkman said:
I was specifically looking at HostHavoc which I believe has a pretty good reputation for those sorts of things. If there's a more security oriented hosting provider for Vintage Story I'd be more than willing to look at it.

I seriously don't see some huge tragedy of security coming from a server that's for a game that's not even mainstream. Ss13 is run by trannies and redditor and they function and I think there's a kiwifarms TF2 server which is also flooded with trannies and I think they still do ok.

As long as we don't call the server "niggerkillingcentral" and advertise it as some sort of den of evil I don't see an issue.

Although who knows? Maybe Greer sues us because someone copies his book in the game and sells it for rusty gears to another player violating his copyright.
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True, but if a transgenda became a regular and then found out about the origins of the server they'd kill themselves.

I do think a public server would be more entertaining.
 
God's strongest milkman said:
I was specifically looking at HostHavoc which I believe has a pretty good reputation for those sorts of things. If there's a more security oriented hosting provider for Vintage Story I'd be more than willing to look at it.

I seriously don't see some huge tragedy of security coming from a server that's for a game that's not even mainstream. Ss13 is run by trannies and redditor and they function and I think there's a kiwifarms TF2 server which is also flooded with trannies and I think they still do ok.

As long as we don't call the server "niggerkillingcentral" and advertise it as some sort of den of evil I don't see an issue.

Although who knows? Maybe Greer sues us because someone copies his book in the game and sells it for rusty gears to another player violating his copyright.
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We could just choose a skin color, eye color and music instrument that is only used by kf users.

Create a village and if some random players with a different character comes we'll just pelt rocks at them.
 
Tinnitus said:
We could just choose a skin color, eye color and music instrument that is only used by kf users.

Create a village and if some random players with a different character comes we'll just pelt rocks at them.
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do you want like a secret code, instead of saying hello everyone on the server has to say "sneed, victory" and do a little Roman salute or have pvp enabled on them?
 
I would happily support a KF server, but I would say don't go overboard with the mods. Go for a vanilla+ experience.
 
Aside from some server talk, here's some neat mods I found:
Temporal Tempest
Overhauls the Temporal mechanics, Temporal Rifts are permanent until the Temporal Storm spawns but when that happens, enemies spawn near the Rifts instead of on top of you, making it more like a siege. Storms are longer and "ramps up" over time, but killing enemies reduces the Storm duration. Rifts also only spawn a fixed amount of entities.
Butchering
Overhauls butchering greatly, if you've every played the Minecraft mod Butchery, it's like that. Rather than hunting>harvesting>drops, the process of harvesting requires you to hunt it like normal, hook it's body, skin it with a knife, place skinned body on the new butchering table, use knife to harvest meat and other items, there's other items and mechanics like smoking meat to preserve it added to the mod I believe but that's the basics. Can be considered highly optional for people who don't want more busy work, but as someone who really likes this sort of stuff I'll recommended it and is pretty compatible with a few mods.
Rustbound Magic
Admittedly haven't tried this yet but it looks like it plays similar to my old favorite Minecraft magic mods and it looks interesting overall, so I'll just mention it. As it says on the tin, it adds complex magic.
Better Scrap
You can't do much with scrap, you'd think it would be more useful than some dyes and some shit tools but nope. This mod changes that, adds a bunch of new tools and armors, including a new upgradeable end game armor set and more uses for Jonas parts. Definitely needs more balancing but the idea is there and it looks promising.
Ancient Tools
Even more unga for your bunga, kind of. Adds a few basic stuff like a Mortar and Pestle for powders, curing meat with salt on cure racks, pitch for better fuel purposes, even a cart to luge things around longer distances. Not sure how compatible some of these features are with the Butchering mod.
Expanded Foods
I like cooking, I like cooking mods, that's about it. Highly optional and ultimately just more busywork.
Grenades
For fun, shoving flammable and explosive materials into canisters and throwing that shit and watching what happens. Does not damage blocks so perfect for a home invasion. Just as our pre-rift ancestors intended.
Would also like to note that mods here are just as poorly coded as Minecraft's. Lag spikes and memory leaks galore, beware. Better Ruins for example tends to be incredibly laggy even with strong PCs and staying in one location.
 
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