Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines: 2 - I want to believe, but...

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=uwXf5nMa-UI
Sorry for the double post, here is a summary of what the video is.

The protagonists name is Phyre (I don't like the name) an elder who diablerized a modern thin-blood named Fabien. Fabien acts as your guide and because of Fabien your powers are flexible. There is character creation (sex/clan/clothes) outfits will have an impact on the environment. I am going to be cautiously optimistic about Bloodlines 2 being a mid-tier game and nothing more, which is as good as it will get considering it's predecessor.
This is one of the most reddit character designs they could have come up with.

If you're going to have dialogue between vampires, especially between an old and "young" vampire, at least make it somewhat interesting and not two chicks being coy with each other:
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uwXf5nMa-UI
Sorry for the double post, here is a summary of what the video is.

The protagonists name is Phyre (I don't like the name) an elder who diablerized a modern thin-blood named Fabien. Fabien acts as your guide and because of Fabien your powers are flexible. There is character creation (sex/clan/clothes) outfits will have an impact on the environment. I am going to be cautiously optimistic about Bloodlines 2 being a mid-tier game and nothing more, which is as good as it will get considering it's predecessor.
The basic plot idea is even dumber than the previous iteration since while amaranth doesn't completely snuff out the victim's soul, I really fucking doubt that a thin-blood would be able to maintain theirs in the aftermath. Soul remnants are usually an issue more for if you're going after a lower generation vampire. Most other times, they're consumed and obliterated.

Also fuck you for shoving that thin-blood clan and that fucking alchemy garbage they got from 5th; it was one of the dumber decisions and it will NOT sell copies IMO. I get the feeling that this and having him around is a decision made because these idiots are only good for walking simulators and they need a mouthpiece for said walker.

All I do know is Paradox is likely going to gas and kill this take too and replace it with a third company. Mainly predicting that because they're going to be a complete trashfire due to a lack of coding expertise, and Paradox is obsessed with getting this shit out one way or another.
 
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bruh don't tell them about kue-jiin lore.
Specifically how a soul can get stuck in a different body creating a vampire tranny.
 
You know now that I think about it, wouldn't the plot have been better if you were not only a kue-jin, but a kanbujian? Makes more sense than weird magic soul incest.
It would explain why you could freely learn any discipline, with an ability to fully "devolve" into a cainite clan.

It would also explain a lot of interesting hooks. Like kue-jin interaction with you (they will literally fucking murder you not just out of piity but out of Vampire CCP anger). And a secret magic ending akin to revealiing the Taxi Cab driver was Cain.

You're not a kue-jin at all, but a full blown solar exalted, exaltations and all. It's just the World in World of Darkness is so shit you've become what is essentially a parody of what you were and what you should be as the messengers (100% angels, one of which might be gaia herself [which would then let you add a werewolf pastiche since they won't INSTINCTUALLLY murderfuck you like other vampires) attempt a new version of imbuement.
Alongside this being the reason you either rise in bloodline or whatever asian soul vamps have. 13-8 bloodline is nothing if you scale it on Essence 0 - 1

There: World of Darkness gets to advertise literally everything a la BG3.
And we finally get lore tying the grimdark shitheap to Dragon Ball Z land so I can finally be happy :(

I really do wish they delved more into actual lore as well honestly. Like the history of cainites is so fucking awesome in WoD - in that, Cain wasn't just the first sinner, he invented murder. As in he taught angels how to kill. As in, in a way - he was more responsible for the War in Heaven than even Lucifer ever was (because the implication is not even Lucifer fathomed the concept of killing his peers until he saw Caine do it to his brother). Which is probably why God hates us here. So much so that he invented weirdass shapeshifting angels to not only murder angels in retaliation. But left them there as halfbeasts to predate on humans.
That's right, God hated humans so much he might've invented furries.
 
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Lol, they copied the worst part of Cyberpunks story. This is going to be utterly dogshit. The mere fact that you're playing an Elder is fucking retarded; what challenge will there be? You should be able to walk into everyone you meet and say 'obey or die faggot' and they will pretty much have to do that, or die.

EDIT: "AnOtHeR VamPiRE dRaiNed My PoWeRE with ThIs mArK!"

Oh, so you're not actually an elder lol, you're just some faggot that is functionally no different from a new sire because the writing for this is going to be bad. No one can see it but I'm doing a dismissive wanking motion now.
 
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I don't think I've ever seen a game get this level of Anti-Hype before. We went from "HOLY SHIT VTM IS GETTING A SEQUEL" to "Oh god let this game fucking die", and surprisingly its not just us at the latter stage - even over on Zuccbook, people are disappointed on VTMB2's own post about the game.

I've said before, I want this game to finally come out so I can laugh at the dumpster fire, and it probably will release just to try and make back some of what got sunk into it, but at this point I'm more interested in just how hard the game is going to bomb more than anything else.
Did these niggas seriously add the Yes, No, sarcastic, sarcastic no, dialogue wheel from Fallout 4?
Wait, they added the thing even Todd Howard said was a bad idea? Jesus fuck just when I think we've hit rock bottom...
 
It's not quite a dialogue wheel but it might as well be. The screenshot they were showing has three options.

-Explain everything
-Show the mark
-Assert your position

Extremely vague and when the option was picked the PC said like three full sentences so you know it's going to just be yes, yes, and yes but I going to be a dick about it.
 
What even is the point in making you an elder if you're really just another new fledgling everyone can boss around? And who asked for a faggot in your head to annoy you the whole game? I don't want voices in my head unless I play a Malkavian.

Holy shit the dialogue system, it's awful! 3 choices and all of them lead to the same result, really? Where is the role-play?

I expected this game to be terrible and I'm still disappointed.

Time to install Bloodlines again.
 
Let's give the player character a heavy accent and make them impossible to take seriously. :story:

Please amp this shit up to dracula level for the male character so I can roleplay as an idiot.

I'm calling it, this is either going to be complete crap or at BEST stupid fun jank.
 
So the whole point of calling this Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2 should be that it has something to do with the first game. Now, to me, it's not essential that Beckett, Jeanette or other characters from VtM:B1 show up in this one. Here is what I would expect:
1. Character Creation: Ideally you'd have the option to do a questionnaire or select your clan and initial stats to create your character. You should have access to all the same clans as in the 1st one (and maybe some that weren't available in that one too). I'd love it if they implemented some of the cut content character background ideas Troika intended for the original.
2. Different clans should have different playthrough experiences, different player homes and different options to proceed. Nosferatu can't be seen, Malkavians have trouble with communication, etc.
3. You'd select stats and build your character based on your play style, whether seductive con-artist, vampire ninja, or brutal tank.
4. Multiple possible endings (and playthroughs besides just the ending) based on who you ally with and the choices you make in the game.
5. Side quests that net you interesting perks, like that blood draining artifact you get for questing for the nice lady who lives in the hospital basement in the first one.
6. Even the low level quests should be interesting. Like the Gimble quest from the first one.

What do I actually expect? It's kind of a loop, as I try to keep my expectations down in the gutter, but then I think, "How can it be even worse?" and wonder if there is some other, dirtier gutter I haven't yet considered.
 
So the whole point of calling this Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2 should be that it has something to do with the first game. Now, to me, it's not essential that Beckett, Jeanette or other characters from VtM:B1 show up in this one. Here is what I would expect:
1. Character Creation: Ideally you'd have the option to do a questionnaire or select your clan and initial stats to create your character. You should have access to all the same clans as in the 1st one (and maybe some that weren't available in that one too). I'd love it if they implemented some of the cut content character background ideas Troika intended for the original.
2. Different clans should have different playthrough experiences, different player homes and different options to proceed. Nosferatu can't be seen, Malkavians have trouble with communication, etc.
3. You'd select stats and build your character based on your play style, whether seductive con-artist, vampire ninja, or brutal tank.
4. Multiple possible endings (and playthroughs besides just the ending) based on who you ally with and the choices you make in the game.
5. Side quests that net you interesting perks, like that blood draining artifact you get for questing for the nice lady who lives in the hospital basement in the first one.
6. Even the low level quests should be interesting. Like the Gimble quest from the first one.

What do I actually expect? It's kind of a loop, as I try to keep my expectations down in the gutter, but then I think, "How can it be even worse?" and wonder if there is some other, dirtier gutter I haven't yet considered.
Here's the best case situation I'm thinking. I don't know if anybody played this game but there was a vampire title called Dark way back.

It was jank but it had an interesting plot, telltale art style and aspirations of being an RPG/mass effect style title. Trouble was it basically was a linear stealth game with barely any choices or side quests. It really tried to be good and I was actually fond of it for trying so hard, but it fell short.

I kinda get that feeling from this game. I'll be very surprised if they have a lot of quests.
 
Here's the best case situation I'm thinking. I don't know if anybody played this game but there was a vampire title called Dark way back.

It was jank but it had an interesting plot, telltale art style and aspirations of being an RPG/mass effect style title. Trouble was it basically was a linear stealth game with barely any choices or side quests. It really tried to be good and I was actually fond of it for trying so hard, but it fell short.

I kinda get that feeling from this game. I'll be very surprised if they have a lot of quests.
One of his funniest reviews, during his peak years.
That game sucked dick and the story was retarded.
 
One of his funniest reviews, during his peak years.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SOgXwElNSpUThat game sucked dick and the story was retarded.
He's not kidding about the weakness to bullets. There's one hilarious section where your squaring up against the vampire overlord and after puffing his chest to look badass a bunch of ordinary spec ops goons easily blow him away with nary a scratch. If I'm remembering it right he even tried to run away.

There's also a section where a bunch of museum security guards with hand guns manage to kill off an entire spec ops force. So that great too.


Ultimately while the gameplay was uninspired I really liked the soundtrack, the art style and the fact they had the voice of Geralt from the Witcher as the main character. Not perfect but probably a lot better then most shitty pozzed games these days. I also enjoyed vampire rain. That was underrated.
 
bruh don't tell them about kue-jiin lore.
Specifically how a soul can get stuck in a different body creating a vampire tranny.
....Are we sure that isn't what happened here? I mean the protagonist in that video looks very troonish, dresses like a seattle tier sjw, has a far left reddit troon name 'phyre' and has a headmate she hears the voices of

So either they inadvertently did that without being aware of that fact or the designer who came up with the character is a troon
 
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