Twitter 5/24 - Chris roasts Kengle again

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shilly_mays said:
Chris finally picked up a few tricks of the trade from trolls. This tweet and the other one saying Kengle can't draw got me good.
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I'm starting to develop a man-crush on Chris-Chan ffs! He may think he's a woman, but his balls have dropped into position HARD over the last couple weeks! I haven't been this entertained Chris-watching since the glorious days of Blarms and pepper spray. :woo:
 
MahFibro! said:
I'm thinking life size cutouts.
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I was thinking more in the line of kidnapped hostages that he's forced into playing the role of his children as they're bound down to their chairs as crude colored paper and crayola fucking model magic is plastered to their body's, muffling the cries and screams as Chris slowly begins to build his dream family.
 
It seems the autistic student has become the autistic teacher.

Good for you Chris. Now join us, and become one with the dark side!
 
Marvin said:
Some people are just really thirsty to believe in all the dumb shit the cwcki sells them on.

Y'know I own and operate the cwcki, right?
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I am well aware of that Marvin, but I hope you're not the reason why it is constantly offline days at a time. Also, it's not that some people believe every word on the wiki, it's more like they see the pictures on there as proof as to what Chris did.

Mariposa Electrique said:
Don't forget how straight he is, and how everyone just loves to be around him.
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That's right. I forgot how much of a.great friend Chris can be, especially after a breakup (see Kim Wilson), or after someone gives you advice.
 
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When even CWC roasts you, its time to quit the weening.

I may be optimistic here, but I think he is just trolling Kengle.
 
Mathas said:
Oh I know. Ken's just butthurt that Chris shot him down/pointed him out so brutally lol. But even still, that doesn't make his observations wrong. But it does say a bit about who Ken is as a person, imo.

EDIT: Also, since this is relevant to Kengle's tweet:
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I love this. Someone states that your behavior and statements are indicative of mental illness? Double down with a comment full of evidence that their assessment is probably correct! Never change, Chris.
 
asperhes said:
What's the difference between delusional and non-delusional belief in magic?

Yeah well, he's not wrong. Spiritual beliefs predominate throughout the world. I don't think a clear distinction can be made between magic and miracles, prayer and spell-casting.

For his whole life Chris has felt desperately powerless because he's stupid and dependent and socially ostracized. You know, like most of humanity. So he tries to influence the powers of the universe in his favor. But just as he creatively used an Attraction Sign to find a lady, he's creatively developed a syncretic mish-mash of beliefs from Christianity, gnosticism, folk magic, Roger Rabbit, and videogames to make his life better.

I don't know, Mariposa, I grew up Catholic too, and we were told in school to make room in your seat for the guardian angel sitting next to you. Chris's belief in the "reality" of his Sonichus doesn't sound all that unusual to me. It certainly doesn't sound like mental illness.

I am not a fan of armchair psychiatric diagnoses. Anyone saying with confidence that Chris suffers from schizophrenia or some other serious delusional disorder is talking out of their ass.
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The difference with religion is that it's cultural. It has a cultural and historic background, and it makes sense why someone taught those sorts of beliefs from birth might believe they're true. You could classify religion as magical thinking (and anthropologists often do) but that sort of classification at least makes sense from a societal standpoint. What Chris displays is no different than what someone with a mental illness might display. Mind you, that could entirely be a result of his Autism (and not a co-morbid disorder influencing his behavior at all). But the fact is, it's weird either way.

As for diagnosing Chris online? I don't think anyone is actually making legitimate diagnoses. We're simply speculating. No psychiatrist or psychologist would diagnose Chris online anyways. They'd need to meet with him in person (probably over the course of quite a few sessions), and actually get to know him before coming to any conclusions.
 
Marvin said:
He believes they'll manifest themselves tangibly someday.

Chris desperately wants them to, in fact. And that they haven't yet annoys the shit out of him.

But no, they're not tangible yet.
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they'll become tangible when he dies. like when a stand activates for the first time.
 
Mathas said:
The difference with religion is that it's cultural. It has a cultural and historic background, and it makes sense why someone taught those sorts of beliefs from birth might believe they're true. You could classify religion as magical thinking (and anthropologists often do) but that sort of classification at least makes sense from a societal standpoint.
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I think this is looking at existing religions through rose tinted glasses.

People invent new religions all the time. Or at least ones with barely a tangible connection to existing religions.

Consider all the new age religions people are getting into, Scientology, UFO religions, or hell, all of Mormonism. Black Israelites.

nvrwastetree said:
I am well aware of that Marvin, but I hope you're not the reason why it is constantly offline days at a time.
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I run the servers, so yeah, any downtime is my fault personally. If you're interested in the technical specifics, I've covered it here.

More personally, it's just that I wrestle with nonsense at work all week. When it comes to my precious free time, I have the choice of improving my life or fucking around with chris chan nonsense. Most of the time, I choose the former.

Although the cwcki might be moving servers soonish, so I'll use that opportunity to upgrade the servers and fix the issue.
nvrwastetree said:
Also, it's not that some people believe every word on the wiki, it's more like they see the pictures on there as proof as to what Chris did.
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It's a little more nuanced than that.

Basically, I could sell you any viewpoint of Chris that I wanted to, with a selective presentation of the facts. It's not the facts are biased, it's which facts we choose to present.

But I think that's totally OK, as long as you're aware that you're not receiving an unbiased presentation. The bias the cwcki portrays is the "funny" one.

Example: I could sell you on the idea that Chris is a serious, deep running pedophile with a selective choice of his quotes. Hell, I could even sell someone on the idea that Bluespike was sexually abused by Chris and just fucking snapped in that audio with him.

Well, and also with the cwcki, we first started writing back when we were sperglord sjws. Like a lot of people think chris is like some crazy klan leader, because of how the cwcki is written. But in fact, he's more like just some ignorant white dumbass from the suburbs. Chris barely knows what a black person is, basically. Y'know what I mean?
 
Marvin said:
I think this is looking at existing religions through rose tinted glasses.

People invent new religions all the time. Or at least ones with barely a tangible connection to existing religions.

Consider all the new age religions people are getting into, Scientology, UFO religions, or hell, all of Mormonism. Black Israelites.
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Yeah, but you're missing my point. Most normal people (theists and atheists both) think Scientologists, UFO cultists, and black israelites are insane. Those religions aren't culturally accepted. Yet.

I'm not saying that established religion isn't magical thinking, or that it's somehow more legitimate. That's super debatable. I'm saying that accepted historic religions are socially sponsored magical thinking, and without that social backing, people will naturally think you're a weirdo if you say you believe in alternate dimension hedgehog waifus that talk to you and wanna hook up with you lol. That social acceptance means something, like it or not.

Magical thinking is a known symptom of certain mental illnesses (schizophrenia sticks out) and developmental disorders like autism. This isn't all that unusual. Maybe worrying, but not a new phenomenon. But acting like it's no different from religion? That's a huge stretch bordering on willful ignorance imo.
 
Mathas said:
Yeah, but you're missing my point. Most normal people (theists and atheists both) think Scientologists, UFO cultists, and black israelites are insane. Those religions aren't culturally accepted. Yet.
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People think they're crazy, sure, but by medical standards, they can't be considered insane because in the historical and cultural context of the United States, psychologists couldn't categorize religious beliefs as mental illness and hope to keep their branch of medicine intact.

They had to really trim down their standard for insanity.
 
Marvin said:
People think they're crazy, sure, but by medical standards, they can't be considered insane because in the historical and cultural context of the United States, psychologists couldn't categorize religious beliefs as mental illness and hope to keep their branch of medicine intact.

They had to really trim down their standard for insanity.
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Oh no, I'm not saying they're actually insane. Dumb? Gullible? Yeah, maybe. But actually insane? No. I'd say most are normal people.

But Chris? Chris is autistic. Idk man, I just feel weird validating Chris's beliefs (regardless of whether you want to classify them as magical beliefs or flat out delusions) and comparing them to a religion, simply because religions (or even cults) involve more than one person. Shared delusions, if you will...
 
Mathas said:
Oh no, I'm not saying they're actually insane. Dumb? Gullible? Yeah, maybe. But actually insane? No. I'd say most are normal people.

But Chris? Chris is autistic. Idk man, I just feel weird validating Chris's beliefs (regardless of whether you want to classify them as magical beliefs or flat out delusions) and comparing them to a religion, simply because religions (or even cults) involve more than one person. Shared delusions, if you will...
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And Chris had Idea Guy photoshopping scenes from "cwcville" and telling Chris they were real. And Chris picked up his magical beliefs from pop culture (like how he thinks he can curse people) or actual legitimate woo peddlers online, like with the binaural beats.

Chris' delusions also involve more than one person.
 
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