The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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Most people don't admin their own systems so copilot must be for Microsoft to locally generate reports to send back to the mother ship. They've been doing this at least XP[1] which they claimed was to cut down on botnets, but since jeets run the company now at every level, its more likely they just want bobs and vagene in "\Users\TRANNY_TITS\Pictures".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Error_Reporting

Back when white men were in control of computing everything was compared to beer and airlines.

If Operating Systems were Airlines

DOS Airline: Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides,
then jump on and let the plane coast until it hits the ground
again, then push again, jump on again and so on.

Mac Airline: All the stewards, stewardesses, captains, baggage
handlers, and ticket agents look the same, act the same, and
talk the same. Every time you ask questions about details, you
are told you don't need to know, don't want to know, and
everything will be done for you without you having to know, so
just shut up.

Windows Airline: The airport terminal is nice and colorful,
with friendly stewards and stewardesses, easy access to the
plane, an uneventful takeoff...then the plane blows up without
any warning whatsoever.

NT Airline (old): Everyone marches out on the runway, says the
password in unison, and forms the outline of an airplane. Then
they all sit down and make a whooshing sound like they're
flying.

NT Airline (new): Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses
much bigger planes, and takes out all the other aircraft within
a 40-mile radius when it explodes.

Unix Airline: Everyone brings one piece of the plane with them
when they come to the airport. They all go out on the runway
and put the plane together piece by piece, arguing constantly
about what kind of plane they're building.

Linux Air: Disgruntled employees of all the other OS airlines
decide to start their own airline. They build the planes, ticket
counters, and pave the runways themselves. They charge a small
fee to cover the cost of printing the ticket, but you can also
download and print the ticket yourself. When you board the plane,
you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the
seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very
comfortable, the plan leaves and arrives on time without a single
problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful. You try to tell customers
of the other airlines about the great trip, but all they can say is,
"You had to do what with the seat?"


OS/2 Airline: To board the plane, you have your ticket stamped
ten different times by standing in ten different lines. Then
you fill out a form showing where you want to sit and whether
it should look and feel like an ocean liner, a passenger
train, or a bus. If you succeed in getting on board the plane
and the plane succeeds in getting off the ground, you have a
wonderful trip...except for the times when the rudder and
flaps get frozen in position, in which case you have time to
say your prayers and get yourself prepared before the crash.


If Operating Systems Were Beers...
DOS Beer:
Requires you to use your own can opener, and requires you to read the directions carefully before opening the can. Originally only came in an 8-oz. can, but now comes in a 16-oz. can. However, the can is divided into 8 compartments of 2 oz. each, which have to be accessed separately. Soon to be discontinued, although a lot of people are going to keep drinking it after it's no longer available.
Mac Beer:
At first, came only a 16-oz. can, but now comes in a 32-oz. can. Considered by many to be a "light" beer. All the cans look identical. When you take one from the fridge, it opens itself. The ingredients list is not on the can. If you call to ask about the ingredients, you are told that "you don't need to know." A notice on the side reminds you to drag your empties to the trashcan.
Windows 3.1 Beer:
The world's most popular. Comes in a 16-oz. can that looks a lot like Mac Beer's. Requires that you already own a DOS Beer. Claims that it allows you to drink several DOS Beers simultaneously, but in reality you can only drink a few of them, very slowly, especially slowly if you are drinking the Windows Beer at the same time. Sometimes, for apparently no reason, a can of Windows Beer will explode when you open it.
OS/2 Beer:
Comes in a 32-oz can. Does allow you to drink several DOS Beers simultaneously. Allows you to drink Windows 3.1 Beer simultaneously too, but somewhat slower. Advertises that its cans won't explode when you open them, even if you shake them up. You never really see anyone drinking OS/2 Beer, but the manufacturer (International Beer Manufacturing) claims that 9 million six-packs have been sold.
Windows 95 Beer:
A lot of people have taste-tested it and claim it's wonderful. Others say its flat. The can looks a lot like Mac Beer's can, but tastes more like Windows 3.1 Beer. It comes in 32-oz. cans, but when you look inside, the cans only have 16 oz. of beer in them. Most people will probably keep drinking Windows 3.1 Beer until their friends try Windows 95 Beer and say they like it. The ingredients list, when you look at the small print, has some of the same ingredients that come in DOS beer, even though the manufacturer claims that this is an entirely new brew.
Windows NT Beer:
Comes in 32-oz. cans, but you can only buy it by the truckload. This causes most people to have to go out and buy bigger refrigerators. The can looks just like Windows 3.1 Beer's, but the company promises to change the can to look just like Windows 95 Beer's - after Windows 95 beer starts shipping. Touted as an "industrial strength" beer, and suggested only for use in bars.
Unix Beer:
Comes in several different brands, in cans ranging from 8 oz. to 64 oz. Drinkers of Unix Beer display fierce brand loyalty, even though they claim that all the different brands taste almost identical. Sometimes the pop-tops break off when you try to open them, so you have to have your own can opener around for those occasions, in which case you either need a complete set of instructions, or a friend who has been drinking Unix Beer for several years.
AmigaDOS Beer:
The company has gone out of business, but their recipe has been picked up by some weird German company, so now this beer will be an import. This beer never really sold very well because the original manufacturer didn't understand marketing. Like Unix Beer, AmigaDOS Beer fans are an extremely loyal and loud group. It originally came in a 16-oz. can, but now comes in 32-oz. cans too. When this can was originally introduced, it appeared flashy and colorful, but the design hasn't changed much over the years, so it appears dated now. Critics of this beer claim that it is only meant for watching TV anyway.
VMS Beer:
Requires minimal user interaction, except for popping the top and sipping. However cans have been known on occasion to explode, or contain extremely un-beer-like contents. Best drunk in high pressure development environments. When you call the manufacturer for the list of ingredients, you're told that is proprietary and referred to an unknown listing in the manuals published by the FDA. Rumors are that this was once listed in the Physicians' Desk Reference as a tranquilizer, but no one can claim to have actually seen it.


I just wanted to post the oldest memes of the usenet.
 
Oh, you're so wrong here...
I don't remember the particular case when Gates showed his predatory teethes to competition but it was something regarding the early days of internet. Bill knew that MS needed to hop on the wagon but they didn't had the means. If I recall it correctly it was something regarding e-mail service, like the very early iteration of @hotmail.com or something like that. It also involved some rich Indian dude who wanted to participate in project but Bill was hesitant to split the revenue... or something... you may correct me if I am wrong but the clip you are referring to as "company with soul and fun in heart" was a monopolist when the clip was released.


I think that comes from necessity to keep up the software up-to-date unlike the Windows/DOS era when product once shipped stayed outdated because user either didn't had internet to download the patches or didn't thought it was a thing. With this the majority of consumer computers are on similar release and it is easier to keep them maintained.
But hey, maybe Nadella is Linux agent after all.
ok then why do the more usable distros like fedora and ubuntu or mint not do rolling release models, rolling release models suck and cause issues

debian literally stays outdated for the purpose of pure stability

if he wants to make it like troonix, make it like a distro that just works

outside of being a shitposter and finding it funny to laugh at how angry troonix fags get, i am a moderate in the linux vs windows debate and see pros and cons to both
 
I never had that happen. Plus, "Copilot" on Windows is just a glorified WebView window.
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Bro I literally had to add/remove copilot. I have annihilated it in the registry manually, along with a bunch of other shit using winaero and utils. It's the home version so group policy editor is off the table. I have literally done everything possible to silence this motherfucker and trim it down, including manually trawling the registry. Some of the shit I have found is part of my reason for saying "I cannot find what this shit does".
I use 11 IoT LTSC 2024, AKA 24H2 Enterprise SKU with extended updates, and nothing like that happens to me.
This is literally why you do not have shit forced into your computer.
 
Corporations used to give a modicum of a shit to appease to the masses back in the day, to seem human.
I think the real difference is founders vs later executives. Execs at companies like HP and IBM were soulless drones. Today, Jensen Huang, love him or hate him, is a forceful personality, but he also founded the company. I'm sure the guy who follows him will be a soulless dork (and probably a jeet).
 
Bro I literally had to add/remove copilot. I have annihilated it in the registry manually, along with a bunch of other shit using winaero and utils. It's the home version so group policy editor is off the table. I have literally done everything possible to silence this motherfucker and trim it down, including manually trawling the registry. Some of the shit I have found is part of my reason for saying "I cannot find what this shit does".

This is literally why you do not have shit forced into your computer.
Do you use the home edition to have something to complain about or what? Just switch to IoT
 
Do you use the home edition to have something to complain about or what? Just switch to IoT
Nah because I'll wait until I build a new PC... to install W10 LTSC on it lol. There is a lot of software and packages configured on this PC that I still have need for. This can go into storage when a new one comes around. Which, at this rate, is "never".
 
major feature updates
These are the most common reason why things return on people's systems. It even happens to an extent when doing LTSC upgrades. When I upgraded from Win10 LTSC to Win11 LTSC, a few settings and tweaks got rolled back. Just the way it is, you're essentially doing a full-blown upgrade, like how you would upgrade from XP to Vista, from 7 to 8 and so on.
Isn’t IoT edition also slowly turning to shit because crap is being added to it?
News flash: every Windows version turns to shit because crap is being added to it. Windows 7 got worse at the end of it's life due to extra updates thrown onto it. Infamously, Windows XP Service Pack 2 bloated Windows XP all the way back in 2002, effectively doubling the hardware requirements. Something that was a common complaint back in the day that no one seems to know, instead looking at XP through rose-tinted glasses.

If anything, Windows 11 LTSC is getting better with updates due to the K2 initiative actually improving on things for once instead of haphazardly throwing in more bullshit no one asked for. But that's more of a consequence of Microsoft not giving a shit about Windows 11 for like four years of it's existence, and only now starting to pull the fuck up and trying to keep it together.

But it's because they're afraid of Apple eating into their market share, the Macbook Neo flipped the table a little now that you can have a macOS laptop for cheap, Apple M SoC's are topping the performance charts, so just recently Satya Nadella and Jen-Hsun Huang have officially announced the Microsoft Surface Ultra as well as other RTX Spark based machines.
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They're openly gunning at Apple, and it's the real reason why they suddenly care about Windows' quality. Contrary to what tech journalists and YouTube talking heads would want people to believe, Microsoft couldn't care less about SteamOS or gamers. The real market share they're afraid of losing are all the average home consumers and business clients, casual web browsers and white-collar workers. That's the real moneymaker for Windows, not perpetually unsatisfied entitled manchildren playing with digital toys.
 
ok then why do the more usable distros like fedora and ubuntu or mint not do rolling release models, rolling release models suck and cause issues
They don't have rolling releases but updates regarding very narrow system functions are updated constantly. There isn't a day I don't have some minor Kernel upgrade on my Linux Mint. For example, updating the kernel from 6.X to 7.0 unmounted my remote partitions on NAS in fstab. I wouldn't call it stable.

Corporations used to give a modicum of a shit to appease to the masses back in the day, to seem human.
I think the wider picture of changes in corporate management happened once the guys in related field were running the business now are replaced by some schmucks after management or with MBA diploma with no understanding the business they are leading and their only prerogative is how to make charts in Excel green.

If you had a home PC with Windows XP that was directly connected to a modem, it had a non-zero chance of getting completely obliterated by viruses.
Back in the days the people behind malicious software moved from mockery of "You are an idiot" spam on desktop to more profitable operations. Unlike the rest of civilized world in Poland you still had the threat of dialers that was more threatening to any virus that would erase data on your computer. TP S.A. (Orange) came in collaboration with some punks and offered "Antydialer" to their modems because consumers were reporting unusual connections coming from their modems.It was during Windows 2000/XP era when broadband connections was gaining popularity.
 
I think the wider picture of changes in corporate management happened once the guys in related field were running the business now are replaced by some schmucks after management or with MBA diploma with no understanding the business they are leading and their only prerogative is how to make charts in Excel green.
Basically what Steve Jobs said about why Xerox failed. The sales and marketing people took over the company and are driving it into the ground. Now the entire industry is that.
It was during Windows 2000/XP era when broadband connections was gaining popularity.
Apparently 202122 is still operational. I couldn't test it myself as the only device I have with a modem is a ThinkPad T420 where I don't know if there are any drivers to get it working (or if it's working at all) and as far as I'm aware the phone line to my house hasn't been operational in years.
 
You know why I despise Linux and Linux users so much? They're all lying two-faced assholes. All of them. Louis Rossmann had a point with the whole "don't accept the premise of assholes" thing. Linux users are those assholes. They expect you to know every little technical detail about Linux and always be as truthful and thorough when talking about it, where they'll jump in and correct you on even the slightest mistake. They'll go on a tirade if you say that "you have to do everything in a command line on Linux".

But when it comes to Windows? Oh that's Microslop so like, we can blatantly lie about it and if anyone tries to correct us we'll just insult them and say they're corpo shills, suck Bill Gates' cock or are pajeets. They love to poster that they're pragmatists, yet every time I had the displeasure of interacting with one, I met an emotional lunatic instead that refuses to apply pragmatism to software they personally dislike. Of course, they'll act like it's only a "loud minority", except that I'm yet to encounter someone of that silent majority that doesn't have all the same traits that make me despise the Linux world so much.

I hate nothing more than people who actively lie to my face and try to gaslight me into believing I'm wrong. All of my interactions with Linux users online were nothing but that. So I'm glad that Linux is gaining more market share from gamers, I hope that the entire Linux desktop ecosystem gets thoroughly enshittified by Linux users finally getting their wish and having any sort of relevance. I hope they'll seethe about the "normification" of FOSS because they deserve every single fucking bit of it for doing nothing but lying and gaslighting everyone for over three decades.
What really gets me is the people who say that Linux runs older Windows programs/games better then Windows 11, which is complete bullshit. Maybe backwards compatibility has gotten a bit worse, but I have never had an issue with getting 90s and 2000s games working with Windows 11. This is one thing I will continue to praise Microsoft for, their backwards compatibility is still really great.

Linux on the other hand, you have to constantly tinker shit with Proton or Lutris in order to get games to launch or run correctly. I still haven't been able get Crysis to launch correctly, despite Crysis Warhead, its expansion running fine. Call of Duty 2 and BO2 both ran at 5 FPS for different reasons that all the solutions I found wouldn't resolve. And getting MIDI playback to work was a complete nightmare. I wouldn't have had any of these issues on Windows 11.

I will say to people who are considering switching from Windows to Linux, to try and make the most out of fixing their problems on Windows. Despite Microsoft's bullshit, it is the most popular line of operating systems, and there is a dedicated community of people actively fixing Microsoft's shit. There are a lot of tools available that remove bloatware, replace the shitty UI, etc.
 
which is complete bullshit
Not exactly. Wine does tend to run older software better than modern Windows, just because they did a solid job replicating how Windows NT works up to WinXP. Vista and later is much harder to accomplish, and especially if it's a behemoth like the Adobe suite that expects to live under a modern Windows OS and not a simulated framework of it under a Linux-based system.

A good example of that is how you cannot run Win16 software on 64-bit Windows. As in, Virtual DOS Machine, or VDM, the component that allowed you to do that, was never ported to 64-bit Windows back when it first became a thing with Windows XP, all the way back in 2005. Microsoft did work on porting it, and there's leaked code of it, but they never finished it. Wanna know how you can still run 16-bit software on modern Windows? Through a port of Wine's VDM. Wine team kept better backwards compatibility here just because they've stayed behind so much and didn't arbitrarily cut features. But now us Windows users can benefit from that so it's a mutually beneficial endeavor.

There are other things Microsoft has broken in terms of backwards compatibility over the years, such as DirectDraw support, the API many older games used before DirectX, like Sims 1. This is where projects like DDrawCompat come into play, that implement various fixes and workarounds for these new issues, and applying it is as easy as copying and pasting a single DLL file. I'm very keen on this topic and know a good bit on how DLL injection works and what projects are out there, it's very fun.
I mentioned this already, but I was pleasantly surprised to see that Wine/Proton finally links EXE libraries like on Windows, so to apply DLL files like DDrawCompat, you no longer need to manually declare an overwrite, it's as easy as on Windows. If it exists next to the executable, and the executable wasn't hardcoded not to look for alternative DLL's, which sometimes may happen, it'll use what's in the installation folder and you're off to the races.
 
A good example of that is how you cannot run Win16 software on 64-bit Windows. As in, Virtual DOS Machine, or VDM, the component that allowed you to do that, was never ported to 64-bit Windows back when it first became a thing with Windows XP, all the way back in 2005. Microsoft did work on porting it, and there's leaked code of it, but they never finished it
It was never ported because it would bring many other problems regarding... I don't know... rendering this stuff, memory management and CPU cycles which many games relied on back then. You still have DirectDraw builtin system but I doubt it would render this stuff correctly that was supposed to be working on 640x480 max. It was easier for MS to dump this and leave it for enthusiast who want to tinker with obsolete software that works specifically Intel DX for which instructions are not included in modern systems.
 
It was never ported because it would bring many other problems regarding... I don't know... rendering this stuff, memory management and CPU cycles which many games relied on back then. You still have DirectDraw builtin system but I doubt it would render this stuff correctly that was supposed to be working on 640x480 max. It was easier for MS to dump this and leave it for enthusiast who want to tinker with obsolete software that works specifically Intel DX for which instructions are not included in modern systems.
Well nowadays we have 86Box so we can perfectly emulate legacy PC's with all their quirks for maximum backwards compatibility. Not just virtualization, NeXT did that with MS-DOS back in 1992. Full-blown emulation, down to emulating the CPU's and their instruction sets.
 
They don't have rolling releases but updates regarding very narrow system functions are updated constantly. There isn't a day I don't have some minor Kernel upgrade on my Linux Mint. For example, updating the kernel from 6.X to 7.0 unmounted my remote partitions on NAS in fstab. I wouldn't call it stable.


I think the wider picture of changes in corporate management happened once the guys in related field were running the business now are replaced by some schmucks after management or with MBA diploma with no understanding the business they are leading and their only prerogative is how to make charts in Excel green.


Back in the days the people behind malicious software moved from mockery of "You are an idiot" spam on desktop to more profitable operations. Unlike the rest of civilized world in Poland you still had the threat of dialers that was more threatening to any virus that would erase data on your computer. TP S.A. (Orange) came in collaboration with some punks and offered "Antydialer" to their modems because consumers were reporting unusual connections coming from their modems.It was during Windows 2000/XP era when broadband connections was gaining popularity.

I respect Linux Mint tbh, the ones that are deliberately overcomplex and unstable are just dumb trannybait

BBport works on Troonix as an appimage so there is real reason for normies to use a Troonix dual boot
 
Windows 95 Beer:
A lot of people have taste-tested it and claim it's wonderful. Others say its flat. The can looks a lot like Mac Beer's can, but tastes more like Windows 3.1 Beer. It comes in 32-oz. cans, but when you look inside, the cans only have 16 oz. of beer in them. Most people will probably keep drinking Windows 3.1 Beer until their friends try Windows 95 Beer and say they like it. The ingredients list, when you look at the small print, has some of the same ingredients that come in DOS beer, even though the manufacturer claims that this is an entirely new brew.

Windows NT Beer:
Comes in 32-oz. cans, but you can only buy it by the truckload. This causes most people to have to go out and buy bigger refrigerators. The can looks just like Windows 3.1 Beer's, but the company promises to change the can to look just like Windows 95 Beer's - after Windows 95 beer starts shipping. Touted as an "industrial strength" beer, and suggested only for use in bars.
Unix Beer:
This is sooo 1995, even 1995 was less 1995 than this.
 
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