The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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The problem with Linux is that everytime a Linuxfag makes something it goes like this.

"Look at this cool software application I made! It's only useful in this extremely niche theoretical situation but wow just think of the potential!"

"What are the practical application of such software?"

"Practical applications?"
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I'm not all opposed to R&D or innovation but eventually you need to make viable products and not just endless proof of concept projects and Linuxtroons seem to be too autistic to understand or accomplish this.
Even worse, every time someone does make a practical way of packaging an application like Snap where its packaged with all of its dependencies as to never break, it gets bashed for some reason
 
The problem with Linux is that everytime a Linuxfag makes something it goes like this.

"Look at this cool software application I made! It's only useful in this extremely niche theoretical situation but wow just think of the potential!"

"What are the practical application of such software?"

"Practical applications?"
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I'm not all opposed to R&D or innovation but eventually you need to make viable products and not just endless proof of concept projects and Linuxtroons seem to be too autistic to understand or accomplish this.
Reminds me of this old interview with Steve Jobs.
He was a massive egotistical cunt, but he had great opinions on what good products should be. There's plenty of golden material from the NeXT/90's Apple era.
It also made me realize just how gay current tech is. Jobs loved to bant and rib other companies and their products, and nowadays that would be unthinkable for anyone to do something like that in a keynote.
Even the Gates/Ballmer era of Microsoft had them making gems like these. They weren't just a soulless corporation aiming to thwart the competition, they had fun while doing so. Now everything has to be painfully sterile and clean.
 
Nadella is so pro-Linux that he decided to put Windows 10 and 11 on a rolling release model just like Arch Linux instead of service packs

I always thought it was curious that packages breaking in Arch was eerily similar to feature updates breaking random shit in windows but Troonix fags are only fine when Arch breaks for the 4th time this week

If anything windows is too much like linux now and not enough like windows

Vista was bad yeah, but it had charm and a vista is a place you want to be and that design language was perfected on windows 7

I genuinely wonder how much hate Windian 11 would get if it got service packs instead of the rolling release update model that King Jeet put it on
 
It also made me realize just how gay current tech is. Jobs loved to bant and rib other companies and their products, and nowadays that would be unthinkable for anyone to do something like that in a keynote.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IY2j_GPIqRAhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=8coHwAm-LyIEven the Gates/Ballmer era of Microsoft had them making gems like these. They weren't just a soulless corporation aiming to thwart the competition, they had fun while doing so. Now everything has to be painfully sterile and clean.
Oh to be a white man that didn't get to experience the 90s / early 2000s golden age of tech and gaming. I would kill 1,000 jeet children to go back in time.
 
They expect you to know every little technical detail about Linux and always be as truthful and thorough when talking about it, where they'll jump in and correct you on even the slightest mistake. They'll go on a tirade if you say that "you have to do everything in a command line on Linux".

But when it comes to Windows? Oh that's Microslop
I find it curious when Linux users balk at the idea of making mundane modifications in Windows. Most Linux distributions aren’t as complicated as the memes suggest, but someone savvy enough to tinker with Linux is more than qualified to tinker with Windows.

Sure, in theory you shouldn't have to. But in practice, what is it? Disable some shit in the settings, download a few .reg files from ElevenForum, edit a couple of policies? That's nothing to a seasoned Linux user.

Hence why some of these complaints sound to me less like actual Linux users and more like Windows users venting their frustrations.
 
I find it curious when Linux users balk at the idea of making mundane modifications in Windows. Most Linux distributions aren’t as complicated as the memes suggest, but someone savvy enough to tinker with Linux is more than qualified to tinker with Windows.

Sure, in theory you shouldn't have to. But in practice, what is it? Disable some shit in the settings, download a few .reg files from ElevenForum, edit a couple of policies? That's nothing to a seasoned Linux user.

Hence why some of these complaints sound to me less like actual Linux users and more like Windows users venting their frustrations.
It all goes back to Linux users being ideological twats driven by emotions and them seething over Microsoft for 35 years straight. In theory, you shouldn't, yes. But they twist it into that in practice, you should never under any circumstances try and tinker with a closed source OS, and if it's made by *bleugh* Microslop of all companies, you should ditch it ASAP and switch to Linux because this particular issue doesn't exist there.

It's all a mental illness really, a bunch of nerds who never could fit into any crowd that found something they could collectively obsess over, creating a cult essentially. There's no other explanation once you've interacted with these types enough. The actual sane Linux user that doesn't care about ideology and only about which piece of software is better suited for a given task is extremely rare to find in the wild, mainly because they don't make the software they use their entire personality, which is caused by them already having a personality of their own that lets them have a life. The average Linux user is nothing like that, hence why it's impossible to avoid them online. Just like trannies, they have nothing else to do in their lives, are permanently online and are perpetually circling the drain.
 
I find it curious when Linux users balk at the idea of making mundane modifications in Windows. Most Linux distributions aren’t as complicated as the memes suggest, but someone savvy enough to tinker with Linux is more than qualified to tinker with Windows.

Sure, in theory you shouldn't have to. But in practice, what is it? Disable some shit in the settings, download a few .reg files from ElevenForum, edit a couple of policies? That's nothing to a seasoned Linux user.

Hence why some of these complaints sound to me less like actual Linux users and more like Windows users venting their frustrations.
The trick is to not touch the registry at all. I think this is what trips people up. Updates can change the registry whereas Microsoft generally respects settings and group policies. I’ve only had to touch the registry for a few esoteric things outside the OS (e.g. some shitty app).
 
The actual sane Linux user that doesn't care about ideology and only about which piece of software is better suited for a given task is extremely rare to find in the wild, mainly because they don't make the software they use their entire personality, which is caused by them already having a personality of their own that lets them have a life.
Ironically, you could argue that DHH is pretty much that sane Linux user that doesn't care about ideology and only about which piece of software is better suited for a given task even though he makes the software he uses pretty much his entire personality.
 
anyone use the scoop package manager? https://scoop.sh/#/
thinking of switching from winget to scoop
I do. It works, not much to say. Updates are usually a bit delayed from upstream and compared to winget, though.
I also use UniGetUi to manage packages across winget/scoop/pip.
 
anyone use the scoop package manager? https://scoop.sh/#/
thinking of switching from winget to scoop
I don't use it really, it's not as much of a replacement to Winget as it is an additional way of installing software. Winget pulls the installers from source and runs them as silently as it can, and since Microsoft has been shipping it by default since some version of Windows 10 it's a very convenient way of installing software. Scoop on the other hand re-packages software so that it's as self-contained as it can be so that everything lives within Scoop and doesn't scatter across the system, which isn't always the most optimal way of doing things depending on what you install.

Personally, I like to keep a dedicated Programs folder on a secondary drive and move as much software as I can there instead of deploying it on the system drive. If needed, I just manually add those to PATH. IMO it's a good practice to keep your software on a secondary drive to reduce the friction if you ever need to reinstall your OS.
 
Even the Gates/Ballmer era of Microsoft had them making gems like these. They weren't just a soulless corporation aiming to thwart the competition, they had fun while doing so. Now everything has to be painfully sterile and clean.
Oh, you're so wrong here...
I don't remember the particular case when Gates showed his predatory teethes to competition but it was something regarding the early days of internet. Bill knew that MS needed to hop on the wagon but they didn't had the means. If I recall it correctly it was something regarding e-mail service, like the very early iteration of @hotmail.com or something like that. It also involved some rich Indian dude who wanted to participate in project but Bill was hesitant to split the revenue... or something... you may correct me if I am wrong but the clip you are referring to as "company with soul and fun in heart" was a monopolist when the clip was released.

Nadella is so pro-Linux that he decided to put Windows 10 and 11 on a rolling release model just like Arch Linux instead of service packs
I think that comes from necessity to keep up the software up-to-date unlike the Windows/DOS era when product once shipped stayed outdated because user either didn't had internet to download the patches or didn't thought it was a thing. With this the majority of consumer computers are on similar release and it is easier to keep them maintained.
But hey, maybe Nadella is Linux agent after all.
 
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you may correct me if I am wrong but the clip you are referring to as "company with soul and fun in heart" was a monopolist when the clip was released.
I am more than aware that 90's Microsoft was an aggressive monopoly to the point where the DoJ stepped in, hence why I didn't say "they weren't just a soulless" rather than "they weren't a soulless". Jobs was also a massive scumbag around this time, being particularly shitty towards the Woz, but what's different is that Gates and Ballmer used to do SNL-style skits. Jobs used to shittalk everyone and doing some smug sarcasm, like how he mocked MS-DOS in the internal NeXT videos, or how he mocked Longhorn being vaporware, or how the reveal of the iPhone wasn't a massive fart-huffing festival and had some mild humor sprinkled in.

Corporations used to give a modicum of a shit to appease to the masses back in the day, to seem human. Now it's all soulless keynotes with sterile aesthetics, and everyone is surrounded by yes men to the point where they have no idea what they're talking about. If Jobs wasn't such a massive asswipe, listened to the doctors and went to chemo instead of keeling over like he did, maybe things would've been different today.
I think that comes from necessity to keep up the software up-to-date unlike the Windows/DOS era when product once shipped stayed outdated because user either didn't had internet to download the patches or didn't thought it was a thing
If you had a home PC with Windows XP that was directly connected to a modem, it had a non-zero chance of getting completely obliterated by viruses. I know because it happened to our family computer once. A router with NAT became a mandatory safety measure for Windows XP, and for everything basically. If you're not behind a CGNAT then your home router becomes the only thing between your home network and what's our real life cyberpunk Net with rouge AI's trying their best to break through the Blackwall to fry your synapses.

These rolling patches became a thing circa Win2000/Me IIRC, with XP being the first mainstream push of them given how Me was something OEM's forced MS to release so it was a rushed disaster and 2000 was meant to be enterprise only but it all resulted in NT becoming the standard, so once again, acting like it used to be service packs and nothing but service packs is some weird rose-tinted glasses revisionism people love to do. Hell, Windows 7's SP1 was released in 2011 and it still had monthly updates changing and upgrading the OS every month, for four years before Nadella, then for five more years of the mainsteam support, and three more years of ESU support. People just don't understand or don't remember that back then you also had updates that needed a restart due to how NTFS works. What actually changed was that under Nadella these rolling updates got more enforced on the end user, which is what actually pissed everyone off, not the updates themselves.
This reminds me of another example of how Silicon Valley wasn't as serious back then. Billy G did a whole awkward skit about ending MS-DOS once XP moved everyone to Dave Cutler's magnum opus, rendering it obsolete.

I'd say that the whole 24H2/25H2/26H2 versioning of today's Windows are the service packs of old, with 26H2 coming out with the culmination of all the changes from 24H2 and 25H2. Windows XP SP3 from an RTM ISO and Windows XP SP3 after getting all the KB's are two different operating systems. The major change with 10 was that Nadella fired all of QA and ever since then Windows was tested in production rather than in house, with the current state of Windows 11 being the culmination of this tech debt rather than sudden overnight enshittification.
 
Microsoft generally respects settings and group policies.
HAH, no.

I've had copilot nuked in every possible way. Opt out of everything. Open PC (W10) yesterday "no network connection" box appears (ty Tinywall). I think to myself "huh, that's weird - Outlook is working". Turn on PC this morning and error message is the same.

Fucking copilot has installed itself. I know I know "automatic updates". Whatever. Give me control of my OS. I literally can't even find out what half of the running "services" processes are because THERE IS NO FUCKING DOCUMENTATION. This OS is utter fucking garbage. Even the documentation is so bad with technical manuals you can't find a description for what a particular thing is, or what it does. It is the ultimate spaghetti code - at every single scale.

Fuck this OS.
 
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HAH, no.

I've had copilot nuked in every possible way. Opt out of everything. Open PC (W10) yesterday "no network connection" box appears. I think to myself "huh, that's weird - Outlook is working". Turn on PC this morning and error message is the same.

Fucking copilot has installed itself. I know I know "automatic updates". Whatever. Give me control of my OS. I literally can't even find out what half of the running "services" processes are because THERE IS NO FUCKING DOCUMENTATION. This OS is utter fucking garbage. Even the documentation is so bad with technicalm manuals you can't find a description for what a particular thing is, or what it does. It is the ultimate spaghetti code - at every single scale.

Fuck this OS.
Understood. I have not tried to axe copilot (I use it), but back when Windows 10 first came out I was able to nuke Cortana with the GPE and it never appeared again.
 
I never had that happen. Plus, "Copilot" on Windows is just a glorified WebView window.
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This is the only Copilot executable I have in my OS. It's a part of Edge WebView that got pulled in via WU. But it's not enrolled into my system, double clicking it does nothing.

I really do feel like people just have an emotional reaction to the brand name rather than what's actually happening in their PC's. Microsoft decided to call everything "Copilot", down to rebranding Office 365 to Copilot 365, or Microsoft 365 with Copilot, so that they can woo investors into believing people actually use Copilot, while in reality they use other Microsoft products that just so happen to have some Copilot integration they never use or accidentally click on.

Also I do think that people just don't understand Windows so whenever something does turn back on for them or reinstall, it's quite literally because of a skill issue. Like trying to do everything manually instead of using something like WinUtil that'll automatically configure all the group policies you need. Or using Home edition which was always dogshit ever since it was introduced with Windows XP. The whole "you have to use a Microsoft account to use Windows 11" thing? It's only true for Home. Pro and anything above will let you join domain, although Microsoft made it so that it's as unintuitive as possible, but it is possible.

I use 11 IoT LTSC 2024, AKA 24H2 Enterprise SKU with extended updates, and nothing like that happens to me. Edge doesn't reinstall itself on Patch Tuesdays. Nothing Copilot is in my system outside of those WU files. Nothing that everyone keeps telling me whenever the discussion arises that it happens and that it will happen to me. It's a skill issue, and it's not a skill either, given how Massgrave and Chris Titus fucking handhold you in how to get your shit set up right.
 
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