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Eddie Gluskin said:
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LOLOL. Morons thinking this is supposed to be the Klan when some executioners in the past wore pointed hoods to conceal their identity
 
This thread missed one bit of historical MtG drama: Pucatrade.

Pucatrade was supposed to be an "online card exchange". They started to do business around 2014. It was at best an ill-conceived idea and at worst an outright scam.

Pucatrade site, archive of Wayback Machine page

The idea was that you sent Pucatrade (graded) cards, they would exchange these for "puca points" which you could then use to buy cards off other users of the site. The number of points you got depended on the "ruling prices" at which cards traded on the site at that time.

Pucatrade talked their site up as "the fairest way to trade".

In about 2016 they began to shill on YouTube in a big way. Almost all the MtG influencers took their sponsorship: I remember Quarterpounder(then called MTGHQ), that "Professor" guy and this fat guy called "Wedge" - pretty sure he called his channel "the mana source", all talking this up. Rudy (Alpha Investments) and MTGLion were the only ones who didn't. (They were also the only ones with any background in real finance).

One of the problems here was that all these youtubers were being paid in "Puca Points", which diluted the value of said "points".

The other, bigger, problem is that there was no way to cash out of the site. Puca Points couldn't be exchanged for real money, and there was no guarantee that there would be enough cards available for sale so that everyone could cash out that way (the proprietors didn't promise to hold on to anything they got sent).

Last I heard of Pucatrade was people on reddit complaining about runaway inflation of their points.

I see their site was up until last year, which is actually quite surprising.

Does someone know if they redeemed themselves despite all odds?
 
Cyberpunk Panatela said:
that "Professor" guy and this fat guy called "Wedge" - pretty sure he called his channel "the mana source", all talking this up.
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Oh god, I remember these two cucks. The Professor looked like someone who would simp for trannies, and Wedge was always e-begging for cash to pay his medical bills because even though he had some intestinal disorder he'd continue to eat shit he wasn't supposed to, making his problem worse.

Cyberpunk Panatela said:
The other, bigger, problem is that there was no way to cash out of the site. Puca Points couldn't be exchanged for real money, and there was no guarantee that there would be enough cards available for sale so that everyone could cash out that way (the proprietors didn't promise to hold on to anything they got sent).
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So it was a preview of cyrptobros, except with soyboys.

You'd think after the Mt Gox fiasco, these people would know better, but I guess not.
 
Water-T said:
Wedge was always e-begging for cash to pay his medical bills because even though he had some intestinal disorder he'd continue to eat shit he wasn't supposed to, making his problem worse.
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That fat faggot was always doing dumb things then begging for money to "fix" them.

The stupidest and most reprehensible thing he ever did was hurt his back by trying to lift something, get told by his doctor to stay in bed for a month, then decide: "fuck that, I've got a GP to play at on the weekend".

He then broke his back at the GP and got hospitalized, upon which he released a set of videos prevailing upon the "Magic the Gathering community" to pay for his medical bills (his insurance refused because he was being reckless, IIRC). In return he'd make a series of videos.

He got the money (Hambly and the 'Professor' helped spread his message). He also never made the videos and used the money left over from his bills to buy cards instead of refunding people.
 
Cyberpunk Panatela said:
The idea was that you sent Pucatrade (graded) cards, they would exchange these for "puca points" which you could then use to buy cards off other users of the site. The number of points you got depended on the "ruling prices" at which cards traded on the site at that time.
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I must've joined at a time they vastly changed that system, because at no point did PucaTrade ever make you send THEM cards when I was on there. It was peer to peer; you earned points for sending, you lost points if someone sent to you.

But yeah, the points system was a bit annoying, they shot themselves so hard on the lack of cash out.

I see their site was up until last year, which is actually quite surprising.

Does someone know if they redeemed themselves despite all odds?
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They actually ended up shutting down last year due to the falling numbers, IIRC. What few people I know who did trades this way migrated to Cardsphere instead.
 
Flexo said:
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The Professor is a fucking Carpet Bagging Faggot.

I would say that he makes the worst MTG content, but those Command Zone retards exist and their stupid "We paid someone to look at every turn 1 Sol ring game and decide it is not a problem because it doesn't boost win percentage despite using the game where Tomer of MTG Goldfish used his entire Advantage off his Sol Ring...to play Greed and the proceed to sink 30 Lifepoints to draw cards when he had several playable cards including things that WOULD GAIN HIM LIFE BACK"
 
Double Dee said:
They actually ended up shutting down last year due to the falling numbers, IIRC. What few people I know who did trades this way migrated to Cardsphere instead.
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Whats your opinion on Cardsphere? Being able to set up a digital trade binder seems pretty handy. I hadn't heard of either PucaTrade or Cardsphere before this point, but I was more of an LGS person until the Covid madness.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
The Professor is a fucking Carpet Bagging Faggot.

I would say that he makes the worst MTG content, but those Command Zone retards exist and their stupid "We paid someone to look at every turn 1 Sol ring game and decide it is not a problem because it doesn't boost win percentage despite using the game where Tomer of MTG Goldfish used his entire Advantage off his Sol Ring...to play Greed and the proceed to sink 30 Lifepoints to draw cards when he had several playable cards including things that WOULD GAIN HIM LIFE BACK"
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I always hear The Professor sucks at the game. I can never bring myself to watch his shitty content, but I can only assume its true.
 
Violink said:
I always hear The Professor sucks at the game. I can never bring myself to watch his shitty content, but I can only assume its true.
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He's been on IHYD like 5 times and still hasn't won AFAIK.
 
Polock said:
Whats your opinion on Cardsphere? Being able to set up a digital trade binder seems pretty handy. I hadn't heard of either PucaTrade or Cardsphere before this point, but I was more of an LGS person until the Covid madness.
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I've only used CS a handful of times, but it's not bad, IMO. Definitely not advisable if you're practicing OpSec.

Honestly, though, I'm in a similar mindset with LGS, I'd rather still go visit shops than send via the mail. Comfiness aside, if my shop has the card, I'll just get it there and save myself the fees (3% per trade and 10%/$10 on cashing out, whatever's greater.)

YMMV, though, especially if your nearby shops are garbage or nonexistent.
 
Double Dee said:
I must've joined at a time they vastly changed that system, because at no point did PucaTrade ever make you send THEM cards when I was on there. It was peer to peer; you earned points for sending, you lost points if someone sent to you.

But yeah, the points system was a bit annoying, they shot themselves so hard on the lack of cash out.
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That's already a massive improvement from the original system, where the initial "trade-in" served to give you a credit balance of points to trade with, and there were all sorts of ways to accumulate points without trading(early adopter bonuses, referrals and giving fuckheads like Wedge points which will just be pissed right into the system for cards right before Wedge buggers off never to return).

The idea behind the trade-in was possibly to ensure that there was a good assortment of cards available to trade for right at the beginning - if I were to give them the benefit of the doubt, that is.

I wouldn't be surprised if the original guys behind that site were bought out at some stage by people who wanted to turn it into a legit trading platform.
 
Cyberpunk Panatela said:
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Somehow, someway I came out ahead on Pucatrade and got out minus a little bit of points before it crashed.

So as you know the Street Fighter Secret Lair shipped recently and there is a Hadoken that's actually just a Lightning Bolt. Well I caught this sperg out on Facebook about it.

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Wonder if this nigga knows about the Godzilla cards?

Also there are early cards with text smaller than that shit. (I sorta think they are just butthurt they don't have them)
 
Ebonic Tutor said:
Somehow, someway I came out ahead on Pucatrade and got out minus a little bit of points before it crashed.

So as you know the Street Fighter Secret Lair shipped recently and there is a Hadoken that's actually just a Lightning Bolt. Well I caught this sperg out on Facebook about it.

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Wonder if this nigga knows about the Godzilla cards?

Also there are early cards with text smaller than that shit. (I sorta think they are just butthurt they don't have them)
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At first I assumed it would be some sped getting mad that they reprinted Lightning Bolt, but apparently it's being reprinted pretty often now.
 
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