The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

[AssignedEva]

I loved it. I disliked that Jax got off the hook for hitting the button

Of all the characters to make the most reasonable point, it was Zooble. The button wasn't real and didn't matter, but Jax didn't know that, and deliberately acted in a way that he thought meant would deprive everyone of freedom.
I guess the resolution was more of a fatalistic thing - rather than "it didn't matter, Jax is forgiven", more "it didn't matter, there's no point in arguing about it, I don't want to listen to pointless bickering while I process that I'm trapped forever".

 

[WE'RE ALL GONNA]

I'm not defending goose, I'm sincerely asking the thread a question; when does having characters talk cross the line into therapy? I've seen a handful of shows be accused of having therapy shit, and while I generally agree with the accusations, I just want to "raise my consciousness" on it a little. There has to be a way to have characters communicate and have growth as people without it being labeled "therapy" (unless it's just a thought-terminating mantra and all we want are shonen action shows, which okay, but if that's the case I'd like to know.)

Therapy talk is gay. You know when its there, because real therapy or therapeutic discussions are mundane, personal and boring. There is no music that swells, no epiphanies or intense lighting. No people talking out of character.
TGDC is therapy slop because the voices of the characters switch to what the author wants the audience wants to hear, not what they would actually say.

 

[TheClorax]

Spoiler: Sorry I just couldn't help it

 

["Controlled Demolition"]

Of all the characters to make the most reasonable point, it was Zooble. The button wasn't real and didn't matter, but Jax didn't know that, and deliberately acted in a way that he thought meant would deprive everyone of freedom.

The moment Therapy Mode turns on, it's no longer the characters speaking, it's whatever needs to be said to feel Okay despite the things you did or did not do. Zooble wasn't speaking, the author was.

 

[AssignedEva]

The moment Therapy Mode turns on, it's no longer the characters speaking, it's whatever needs to be said to feel Okay despite the things you did or did not do. Zooble wasn't speaking, the author was.

IMO it was Gangle that pivoted the scene into therapy mode - Jax and Zooble having an argument felt more like a genuinely human interaction, it's after Gangle pipes up that suddenly everyone starts introspecting about how "chasing an impossible goal will drive us crazy" and "it's important we're all here for each other" and "you've left a mark on the world because you're important to me" and "you're a pain in the ass but you're still one of us" and other such platitudes

 

[Shlomo XL]

The code solve above gave answer for: KINGERLIES

tfw the writing is so mediocre you have to resort to ARG bullshit to make things interesting

 

[Strangolapreti]

IMO it was Gangle that pivoted the scene into therapy mode

I thought what she said was less about therapy and more trying to gaslight the group out of fighting each other.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

So which episodes end up mattering to the last episode? The first, the gummi bears, the horror game and the penultimate one? Like half the show can be skipped without any issue because the characters might as well be static besides Jax and Pomni.

 

[1337H4XOR]

Peak number of people watching it during premiere.
Source: Glitch on X

 

[AssignedEva]

So which episodes end up mattering to the last episode? The first, the gummi bears, the horror game and the penultimate one? Like half the show can be skipped without any issue because the characters might as well be static besides Jax and Pomni.

The quickfire episode teases that some of the characters have been in the circus for years and so presumably don't have bodies to go back to (Ragatha doesn't understand a Breaking Bad reference), and the guns episode establishes that Kinger is able to manifest things (he creates a healing butterfly) but they're relatively minor beats.

 

[Getmeout]

In a similar vein, I’ve seen spergs get mad that someone cool or physically attractive shares their mental disorder. As in, I’ve literally met autistics who said someone else couldn’t be autistic (despite their diagnosis) because they were “too hot to be autistic”.

Oh ya, I've seen that. Also the idea that if you go outside and go to events, you're not autistic. As if getting out and trying to socialize despite your disorder means you don't have it, it's like this idea that if you have autism you're doomed and any attempt to better your life despite it is a sign you don't have it.

There are core similarities that make both spergs, but the differences in other areas of life cause the spergery to manifest differently. Someone else in the thread remarked upon “feminine” and “masculine” autism

That was me

Bruh. Relisten to any of his monologue whininings. That's exactly how troonies cry about being a shitty person pre-transition and how nobody needs to fix them. Many of them have the exact same cynic with a fake arrogant smirk personality too.

Many people are like this. Many trans people also try to cope with people's disgust by internalizing the idea that they're perfect and because they're perfect, they can force others to cooperate with their lifestyle. Does that mean Caine is trans too?

I am simply disappointed in such users here.

Lol? Sorry, mom?

No, you can't. But people can lie to themselves.

You sound literally no different than the tumblrites you hate, saying it's problematic bad to watch any media made by someone who disagrees with you.

No trannies, no fag hags, no faggots in creative spaces.

You heard the man, boot this shit out

I'm not defending goose, I'm sincerely asking the thread a question; when does having characters talk cross the line into therapy? I've seen a handful of shows be accused of having therapy shit, and while I generally agree with the accusations, I just want to "raise my consciousness" on it a little. There has to be a way to have characters communicate and have growth as people without it being labeled "therapy" (unless it's just a thought-terminating mantra and all we want are shonen action shows, which okay, but if that's the case I'd like to know.)

Essentially when the plot screeches to a halt so the characters can suddenly have a degree is psychology and fix another character. There's nothing wrong with developing or growing a character's thought processes, there's also nothing wrong with acknowledging a character's mental state (Ragatha family dinner table scene), it only becomes a problem when everything else pauses so it can be solved in a way that kinda makes no sense. An example of good mental development is funnily enough, the IHNMAIMS video game. We see the characters grow, but we are still PLAYING the game as that happens. Nothing pauses for it, rather the story MUST progress for it.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Maybe I'm missing something, but it feels like entirety of Pomni's plan to use Kinger only works because of insane plot armor? How come Caine was able to hear anyone anywhere in the circus (even in the same episode he teleports Pomni right away when she starts talking shit about him), but when they talking about distraction plan he suddenly doesnt hear it?

To be entirely fair, this is kind of a plothole in I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream too, AM is momentarily distracted by his amusement at Benny eating Gorrister's face and that's all it takes to kill everyone but Ted.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

Fuck off.

No trannies, no fag hags, no faggots in creative spaces.

Edit: you are a tard who wants me to derail the thread by nitpick questioning. Said nitpicking questioning is irrelevant and you ask this only to defend your faggot creators like Goose. If you really want to talk about this, dm me or whatever.

At this level of crashing out against people watching the show, I’m halfway starting to think you’re Goose himself sperging on an alt.

 

[Judge Dredd]

I loved it. I disliked that Jax got off the hook for hitting the button

Of all the characters to make the most reasonable point, it was Zooble. The button wasn't real and didn't matter, but Jax didn't know that, and deliberately acted in a way that he thought meant would deprive everyone of freedom.
I guess the resolution was more of a fatalistic thing - rather than "it didn't matter, Jax is forgiven", more "it didn't matter, there's no point in arguing about it, I don't want to listen to pointless bickering while I process that I'm trapped forever".

Wasn't a large part of that because Caine was messing with head via some sort of mind control? In the episode Jax even calls it out. Turning him into a vegan, or making Ragatha stupid. I haven't followed the theory craft, but it seems to be heavily implied (if not stated by one of the characters) that abstracting is when Caine tries to mess with someones mind directly, he messes it up.

'm not defending goose, I'm sincerely asking the thread a question; when does having characters talk cross the line into therapy? I've seen a handful of shows be accused of having therapy shit, and while I generally agree with the accusations, I just want to "raise my consciousness" on it a little. There has to be a way to have characters communicate and have growth as people without it being labeled "therapy" (unless it's just a thought-terminating mantra and all we want are shonen action shows, which okay, but if that's the case I'd like to know.)

To expand on what others have said.

Therapy talk is usually lazy writing because it's the characters sitting, discussing their feelings instead of showing them through behaviour or natural interaction. It can serve as a cheap way to pad run time, as characters discuss things that we already saw. A more personal peeve is that it's a sign of the writers ideology and mental state. ie. They think it's normal and relatable.

Digital Circus usually does it well. Characters are in high stress, low urgency situations and these scenes play out naturally.

 

[Gingervitis]

One big criticism I have with the show (and I could be the odd one out here) is that these characters all had the most mundane “trauma” out there before entering the Digital Circus. I know I’m talking about the point and click adventure here, but compare “people laughed at me : (“ and “my mother acts like an asian woman” to I Have No Mouth’s “I was raped in an elevator” and “I deserve to live with my role in the Holocaust.” It really just supports my theory that troons have never faced real trauma or regret in their lives, or even hung around anyone who has.

That said, despite my personal distaste for Rochon (I shared a forum with him back in the day), god damn did I enjoy Caine’s crashout. It’s like if Genie sang Friend Like Me after Aladdin implied he couldn’t get him out of the Cave of Wonders.

 

[Vibralldo]

I think that this episode proves that Digital Circus really didn't need to be more than 4-5 episodes long.

 

["Controlled Demolition"]

One big criticism I have with the show (and I could be the odd one out here) is that these characters all had the most mundane “trauma” out there before entering the Digital Circus. I know I’m talking about the point and click adventure here, but compare “people laughed at me : (“ and “my mother acts like an asian woman” to I Have No Mouth’s “I was raped in an elevator” and “I deserve to live with my role in the Holocaust.” It really just supports my theory that troons have never faced real trauma or regret in their lives, or even hung around anyone who has.

That said, despite my personal distaste for Rochon (I shared a forum with him back in the day), god damn did I enjoy Caine’s crashout. It’s like if Genie sang Friend Like Me after Aladdin implied he couldn’t get him out of the Cave of Wonders.

It's another point towards being kid friendly. Even the one actual mention of sex is paved over as a throw-away joke when, in something that's an actual homage to IHNMAIMS, sex would very much be a serious part of it. Not only are the characters largely samey and irrelevant and the worst, most "unforgivable" one of them all is just kind of a jerk, they also have no interesting past experience, even within the episode specifically dedicated to exploring such. Wow, you were a bar tender? Incredible backstory.

Not to say it's bad to have mundane, every-day character, but not every single character should be mundane or it all becomes forgettable. Once again, Jax is the odd one out because he might be suffering from a traumatic event. All the show has going for it is appearance and plot.

Also, I forgot the best shot in the series thus far:

Look at that fucking coffee.

 

[Castoreum]

One big criticism I have with the show (and I could be the odd one out here) is that these characters all had the most mundane “trauma” out there before entering the Digital Circus.

This is why ppl act like it's a kids show.

Esp parents who stare at their phones while their children watch it and insist, "It's not inappropriate. I watch it with my kids."

 

[YWNBAM]

Many people are like this. Many trans people also try to cope with people's disgust by internalizing the idea that they're perfect and because they're perfect, they can force others to cooperate with their lifestyle. Does that mean Caine is trans too?

....The entire show is made as a self-therapy of a troon, Duh. You moe pig retard.

Lol? Sorry, mom?

I do pity your mother. To have a child that consoooms and praises tranny slop is one hell of a karma punishment.

You sound literally no different than the tumblrites you hate, saying it's problematic bad to watch any media made by someone who disagrees with you.

That's literally not what i was saying in that passege. But i guess you people need to use all the standart defense stock phrases. But even if so, why not use such tactics? Tumblr people did these whinings for decades and now dominate the artistic industry. You laughed and didn't take them seriously and now consooom blissfully the cum they spew after their inflation forced femm sissy porno sessions and call it animated series.

I don't see any improvements as decades pass. People need to push back against these creators or else nothing is going to change. But i guess you are pretty happy with what you have already, huh? Yummy troony slop you can pick apart and discuss your genius theories and writting spins. On a simulacrum of a good show.

You heard the man, boot this shit out

If the higherups everywhere unironically do this, everything will get better, i am serious . Cut down the creepy faggot fetishists and you will get back better plot/character writting.

At this level of crashing out against people watching the show, I’m halfway starting to think you’re Goose himself sperging on an alt.

Now, that's just silly and you know it. The real Goose jacks off to the praises y'all give him, obviously.

I do dislike the tranny media consoomers, be it games or animation. You keep the apperances of still not agreeing with creators like Goose, not realizing it's your support that helps this ship stay afloat. Although, who am i kidding. Half of the people here are probably from the lgbtq kiwi thread, yuck.

 

[Castoreum]

@YWNBAM lol calm down