The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

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I don't think Steven would forgive Hitler.
He forgave the diamonds
He didn't though.
Bro, not killing them is basically forgiving them [not sarcasm or joking, btw]. They're LITERALLY SPACE HEETLARZ. Letting them live is so fucking retarded and unjustifiable it's beyond parody
Killing them would go against Steven's whole pacifist thing and just wouldn't work thematically with everything else. Getting them to reform and try to fix things is more in line with everything else.
You can't "reform" a dictator.
Not peacefully anyway. "The ends justify the means" goes both ways as far as I'm concerned.
As shown in the movie and future, (but mostly future) the diamonds do make an effort to change for the better. Outside of killing them, how do you think the diamonds should have been handled?
It's hilarious how Steven only had to make White Diamond blush once to change her mind.
Steven had no issue punching stuff early on and jasper, people really overrate his pacifism.

It wasn't pacifism that drove steven to talk it out, it was the fact the diamonds are his aunts, which is also the only reason the diamonds didn't instantly atomize Steven. Also consider the context of the situation:

The diamonds thought Rose killed pink diamond and steve is rose's son, but then it's revealed rose is pink diamond and also steven.

The diamonds cannot understand this. As far as they know, their retarded pink sister killed herself because she hates them but somehow she survived and started identifying as her own son. They keep insisting that Pink is faking it.

If it was anyone else other than Steven this would be impossible. Like, it was ALL nepotism. No one convinced the diamonds that being a dictator is bad, they stopped so their transgender nephew wouldn't cry about it. If Steven didn't ask they would simply ignore earth and continue being dictators.

In hindsight, it WAS the best way to solve the problem considering how outmatched they were but it wasn't portrayed as an intentional plan in-universe or adressed properly. The ending is super rushed and comes across as Steven conveniently guilt tripping his aunts about #family until they feel bad, then they all become friends and the show expects you to forget they commited gem holocaust.
I know this is unrelated, but I have to give in my two-sense of the whole "Diamond Arc" of Steven Universe:

The reason why that whole arc failed, is because how quickly they tried to wrapped up everything that was being built up to. We don't even get the reveal of Rose Quartz actually being Pink Diamond until halfway through the last season. So that whole big reveal that recontextualizes everything from the past 4 seasons can't get the proper focus it needs because we have to get through everything else in the next 14 episodes. And each episode of Steven universe is about 11 minutes long. So we get the whole fight scene with Yellow and Blue, where Steven shows them he has Pink Diamon's gem at episode 24. Which is the latter part of a 2-parter, with the first part being focused on Sapphire's and Ruby's wedding. Then in the next episode, we finally get to see Homewold present day and our first real glimpse of what White Diamond is like. The next couple of episodes kind of focus on life in Homeworld and Steven not fitting in. And the episode after that is Steven's mind being in a watermelon (don't ask). And would you look at that; we only have four episodes left for the series. So let's quickly rush through with Blue and Yellow getting "reformed" to be on Steven's side, a quick sequence of events of Steven fusing with each crystal gem so you can see what the fusions look like, and then a final fusion of all four together to beat the White Diamond's head ship so Steven can get on for our second time of seeing White Diamond (lucky us). Then Steven basically dies, we get that meme of Pink Steven yelling at White Diamond, a beautiful animation scene by James Baxter of the two Steven's becoming one, and White Diamond getting embarrassed or whatever so now she's reformed too. And they can now all uncorrupt the gem and everyone is happy (except Jasper because she can't be redeemed or something) now, so hooray! Yeah, you can see why many SU fans got upset by this anticlimactic, disappointing series finale.

While there is blame on Cartoon Network with it's very weird scheduling of Steven Universe and the fact they wanted to keep this serialized show as an episodic 11-minute one, Rebecca Sugar is not fully innocent either. She should have had the Diamond arc be the full fifth season, instead of having it start in the latter half because she wanted the first part to basically be filler episodes on characters that no one really cared abour anymore. I don't care about the drama of two 12-year olds relationship issues; I don't care about Sadie forming a band; and I especially don't care about the fucking Mayor getting reelected.

There's also the fact that Rebecca could have had another entire season for the show if she had just waited on doing the wedding episode with Ruby and Sapphire. That storyline was being conceived way back in the production of the episode where we see that Garnet is a fusion between Sapphire and Ruby, which was being worked on before same-sex was legal throughout the entire USA. So I can understand why Cartoon Network wasn't jumping on to this. Even after it was legalized, I can understand why they were wary on it still since, at the end of the day Steven universe is a show for kids, and they probably would lose a huge chunk of their international market. I also think that the wedding being at the end of the show as a season finale or epilogue episode works much better story-wise as it kind of interrupted the flow of the main diamond arc. Like right after the whole reveal of Rose being Pink, the next four episodes kind of pushes that to the side to focus on Ruby's and Sapphire relationship before BOOM! WEDDING EPISODE. But Rebecca wanted this, and she got it; even if it was a detrimental to the main plot.

If you want to related this to TADC, I guess you could compare what I mentioned before to the production of TADC and the writing choices that Gooseworx made.
 
There's definitely a case for them trying to make this the post-TADC cash cow. I feel like there's been considerably more astroturfing with Gameoverse compared to the other pilots. Gaslight let its pilot speak for itself, Knights of Guinevere just had Dana's scorn for Disney as its main draw, but for Gameoverse there's this narrative of "This is RubberRoss' passion project 11 years in the making! And WE'RE bringing it to life when nobody else would because we're indie cinema!" that feels extremely forced. That and the concept lends itself to a more episodic, long-running series, possibly setting itself up as Glitch's first multi-season show since Meta Runner.
I think it looks like a fine, harmless show for middle schoolers so far, but jfc it being mostly hand drawn has got to be expensive. Bold choice too for a show focused on videogames which tend to be cgi.

It was definitely the best at being a pilot/first episode so far from the glitch pilots concerning the degree of lore explanation (not too much not too little), the fight choreography, the flow in general, etc, but it kind of just feels like a regular marketable cartoon that couldve been made by any big company instead of something specifically indie. Way easier to watch than the Knights of Guinevere one or even the TADC one, tho, those felt very clunky.
 
If you want to related this to TADC, I guess you could compare what I mentioned before to the production of TADC and the writing choices that Gooseworx made.

For me, the biggest irony between Steven Universe and TADC is that they both failed miserably at getting the audience they wanted. In fact, they were both aiming for each other’s age group.

Simply put: Steven Universe is a better “adult show” and “TADC” is a better “kid’s show.” That’s not about quality, but whom the real fans actually are.

Steven Universe was made by millennial women to reach and indoctrinate young boys and teens, and break “gender roles,” and embrace an effeminate boy as a role model — and they failed miserably. Real boys had Ben 10, not Steven, as their kid hero. Everyone who cared about that show on the internet was college-aged, at their youngest.

TADC is, allegedly, a horror show aimed at adults. It has cussing, explicit references to sex, and is based on a notorious dark short story. Yet it was embraced by the iPad kid generation. Millions have been made from kids watching content farms and making their parents buy them toys and merch.

Millennial women love Steven; iPad kids love Jax.
 
More Australian taxes for the 1000 year old loli cartoons!
We shouldn't be so prissy about Japanese anime and porn site bans considering the government output of goonerbait.
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With how much money media like Mixtape and the shows from Glitch Productions get from the Australian government, I am really shocked there’s been no Nick Shirley clones making videos on that whole tax payer pipeline.
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I know this is unrelated, but I have to give in my two-sense of the whole "Diamond Arc" of Steven Universe:
Every single thing you said in your post was correct, especially the part about the terrible pacing.
The show's worst flaw is how it wasted over half the episodes on garbage filler which resulted in basically every important plot point throughout the show having to be resolved anticlimactically in five minutes.
The fifth season isn't even the worst offender. The entirety of season four barring the human zoo arc and the finale are literally nothing but filler.
Yeah, you can see why many SU fans got upset by this anticlimactic, disappointing series finale.
It wasn't good, but it was infinitely less shit than the terrible mental health PSA clumsily disguised as the final season that ends with gay Godzilla getting defeated via a group hug.
 
It wasn't good, but it was infinitely less shit than the terrible mental health PSA clumsily disguised as the final season that ends with gay Godzilla getting defeated via a group hug
We don't talk about Steven Universe Furture. Not even the diehard fans like that one.
 
As shown in the movie and future, (but mostly future) the diamonds do make an effort to change for the better. Outside of killing them, how do you think the diamonds should have been handled?

There is no other option. Do you seriously think that Hitler would have gotten even prison? I'm amazed the diamonds weren't ganged up on

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2_7Z_gZM-c0
The REAL episode 9 just dropped!!!

Chazington is a tumblr faggot


what about the one where Jax slaps Ribbit's ass while Kaufmo can only look on in bewilderment

Where did you see THAT SHIT

The hype has died down so much people are debating an unrelated show that ended several years ago.

Which one?
 
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