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Answer said:
I imagine the reason for that is they're trying to give runners lower in the leaderboards a chance and to get them some exposure, figuring that it would be boring if it was the same handful of faces at every GDQ. Ironically a lot of these mid-level runners are themselves boring and so are their runs since they're not as skilled as the top competitors. GDQ should narrow their pool from the Top 100 to the Top 50 or something, I'm sorry but no one wants to see some nn that's miles behind the WR.

But probably the worst aspect of this GDQ were the runs that were near or just before some bonus game, because that meant the announcer was shilling H A R D to get the donation limit met, often interrupting the runner and his couch. Must have been demoralizing for those runners, as their moment to shine was getting clouded by the announcer reading donations for the bonus run up next and not theirs. Aggressive announcers were a real fucking problem this time around, just constantly looking for an opportunity to speak. They should only speak when asked to by the runner or the couch.
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I don't think it's anything that complex, I think it's just a case the bigger names aren't applying because they don't need GDQ to boost their reputation or they don't like the strict rules. I think they'd actually prefer the same runners each time because it makes it easier to run a by the numbers marathon.

I make a point of not watching certain runs based on where they are in the schedule/donation counter because the run gets completely overshadowed by the crowd or donation readers pushing hard to get the milestone/incentive unlocked. One of the big reasons I think more people are tuning in for the smaller marathons is the lack of aggressive donations. Part of it is the smaller groups naturally get significantly fewer viewers, but it feels like the announcers are typically more laid back. And even the donators are arguably better, at worst making a lame joke or a meme instead of awkwardly making the donator read a story about how the game got through them depression or losing a family member or whatever while the runner is mashing into a wall to zip out of bounds.
 
yeah, while i agree that they try and keep the faces somewhat diverse, it‘s also the case that top speedrunners don’t really seem to submit to GDQ anymore. the vibe i get from really dedicated players inside the community is something many would agree with, that GDQ doesn’t really represent speedrunning. there’s also this really strange phenomenon where, perhaps surprisingly, the top top runners of many games are actually...fairly normal people. because it takes intelligence, planning, creativity, efficiency, time-management, mental discipline, etc., to push speedruns to their limit, there are fewer trannies/SJWs/spergs at the very top, and those kinds of people see what a joke GDQ has made out of their passion and are frankly embarrassed by it.

(by “fairly normal” i don’t mean that they aren’t a bit odd, just that they often have a pretty balanced temperament, emotional stability, and ideological worldview, unlike the attention whores plastered all over GDQ who have the intelligence and social/emotional depth of a kumquat)
 
I think for a lot of top runners, once you've done a run, it's not worth doing again unless something significantly changes in the route. Some runners will even comment they ran the game X years ago then describe how there's a bunch of new skips that make the run interesting to show off again. I think that's also why they finally mercy killed some of the repeat runs, like super metroid, despite the save/kill the animals being such a huge donation draw.

I'll give GDQ the faintest bit of credit, they've tried to adapt their schedule and include a few more unique runs. But I'll instantly get rid of said credit by pointing out they ruin a lot of what could be interesting with nonstop commentary and limiting what the couch/runner(s) are able to say. And some of these newer/more interesting runs tend to suffer from this the most since they're usually used as a draw for other incentives. A trend that I like with ESA and other marathons is they're more willing to embrace things like races or interesting challenge runs. Again, faint credit for GDQ at least trying to incorporate these, but they only really seem to get it with the Mario runs.

I mentioned it before, and this may be way off because I only caught a few runs, but I think the remote runners were actually higher energy and more interesting than the local runners. It felt like the remote couches were more willing to fill the air and it was harder for an announcer to interrupt with donations. Plus, they tended to know the game/run and could actually chime in with relevant stuff.
 
This GDQ had the lowest viewership in years (stream struggled to break 100k when older streams EASILY shot past it). Its actually insane, peak viewership fucking HALVED right after covid hit and hasn't recovered since.
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Answer said:
I imagine the reason for that is they're trying to give runners lower in the leaderboards a chance and to get them some exposure, figuring that it would be boring if it was the same handful of faces at every GDQ. Ironically a lot of these mid-level runners are themselves boring and so are their runs since they're not as skilled as the top competitors. GDQ should narrow their pool from the Top 100 to the Top 50 or something, I'm sorry but no one wants to see some nn that's miles behind the WR.

But probably the worst aspect of this GDQ were the runs that were near or just before some bonus game, because that meant the announcer was shilling H A R D to get the donation limit met, often interrupting the runner and his couch. Must have been demoralizing for those runners, as their moment to shine was getting clouded by the announcer reading donations for the bonus run up next and not theirs. Aggressive announcers were a real fucking problem this time around, just constantly looking for an opportunity to speak. They should only speak when asked to by the runner or the couch.
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I think it's a little more obvious than that.

If you go lower in the leaderboards, you can invite more of your friends and dive deeper into "diversity and inclusion". I can't think of an actual woman speedrunner in the top 10 for any game that has 10 or more runs in it.

The top 10 runners probably stop submitting because it's pretty clear what the GDQ staff is shooting for - not the best, not the most entertaining, but the most marketable (See also - GDQ's "Frame Fatales"). It's also a pretty raw deal for GDQ runners - you fly on your own dime, pay for your own hotel space, and all of your own food/essentials to perform for GDQ for free - mainly for an audience that only watches GDQ events. GDQ is of course, a gigantic corporation that makes untold sums of money 2 to 3 times a year. For some runners, it is not cheap - airfare can get expensive, as can hotels.

I'd stay home too.
 
Answer said:
This GDQ had the lowest viewership in years (stream struggled to break 100k when older streams EASILY shot past it). Its actually insane, peak viewership fucking HALVED right after covid hit and hasn't recovered since.
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I tried watching, and was almost excited for it, but the second I turned the stream on and saw all those retarded troons wearing masks I switched it off. Waiting for ESA Summer, I guess.

I always thought it was ironic how less cucked ESA has been both about the troon stuff and COVID. ESA came back last Summer to live events, a full year before GDQ.
 
The Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance run was removed from GDQ's Youtube channel. (Technically privated, but even if you have the link you still can't see it.)
It's still on the Twitch VOD, starts around here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1518162268?t=21h23m03s

The runner, Mekarazium, admitted to showing a prerecorded, spliced video, instead of playing it live. (Only applies to the DLC part, not familiar so I'm assuming some sort of bonus incentive, separate run from the main game)

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(screenshot of discord, taken from reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/c...tal_gear_revengence_run_removed_from/iewy4ml/)

What a retard lmao.
 
Tanner Glass said:
I think it's a little more obvious than that.

If you go lower in the leaderboards, you can invite more of your friends and dive deeper into "diversity and inclusion". I can't think of an actual woman speedrunner in the top 10 for any game that has 10 or more runs in it.

The top 10 runners probably stop submitting because it's pretty clear what the GDQ staff is shooting for - not the best, not the most entertaining, but the most marketable (See also - GDQ's "Frame Fatales"). It's also a pretty raw deal for GDQ runners - you fly on your own dime, pay for your own hotel space, and all of your own food/essentials to perform for GDQ for free - mainly for an audience that only watches GDQ events. GDQ is of course, a gigantic corporation that makes untold sums of money 2 to 3 times a year. For some runners, it is not cheap - airfare can get expensive, as can hotels.

I'd stay home too.
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Reminds me of what Nigel Ng said on a podcast about the televised "Live at the Apollo" standup specials. They've gone so hard at diversity and inclusion that if he sees a white guy in the line up he thinks "I have to watch that" because against all odds the honkey clawed his way into getting a spot so he must be extremely funny.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
Reminds me of what Nigel Ng said on a podcast about the televised "Live at the Apollo" standup specials. They've gone so hard at diversity and inclusion that if he sees a white guy in the line up he thinks "I have to watch that" because against all odds the honkey clawed his way into getting a spot so he must be extremely funny.
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Yeah, but, in speedrunning it's even worse.

"Live at the Apollo" standup specials are fine by me because black comedians can be extremely funny and are some of the greatest of all time (Richard Pryor, Patrice O'Neal, Chris Rock, even Wanda Sykes gets praise) but "diverse" Speedrunners are always terrible.

They can't replace everyone with diversity just because someone has to the hard runs - but they can absolutely try and pad the schedule with complete uninteresting garbage games that also happen to be run by only like 3 people and the 3rd person is they/them (so hey, they got a trans/non-binary top3 runner!) or try and find games that were popular but aren't anymore - have someone else find new tech/new route and then just copy that - boom! now you're a top 3 in a game that has 200 entries (but 197 of them haven't been updated in 3 years).

Speedrunning is pretty much rife with - not exactly "cheating" - but there's a huge amount of room for "gamesmanship". Finding unpopular games, unpopular runs in popular games, finding old games with new tech, and so on. You could even - right this second - do a casual let's play of https://www.speedrun.com/80_days and just by virtue of finishing it and posting it, become a world record holder. You can even make your own category and see if it takes (the Borderlands ones of "Start with full legendaries in every slot and W+M1 through the whole game" ones are fucking horrendous for this). You can set a speedrun record for "Played the game with one hand" or "turned the TV upside down".
 
Is TMR still around or did he get unpersoned for yelling angry slurs at NES games on his personal streams?

moocow said:
That's a spiffy card and all, but why'd you just repeat "FREE SPACE" in all the boxes? Doesn't seem like a very challenging game of bingo to me.
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Here's a better challenge : Take the squares mentioning transgenders and replace them with other things that aren't immediate misses if the runner isn't trans (I suggest 'orb joke' and 'runner stumbles trying to use an inclusive term' ). Now watch any GDQ run that's over an hour and try not to get a bingo. Some of the big billing runs could hit blackout.

Tanner Glass said:
I think it's a little more obvious than that.

If you go lower in the leaderboards, you can invite more of your friends and dive deeper into "diversity and inclusion". I can't think of an actual woman speedrunner in the top 10 for any game that has 10 or more runs in it.
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pidge01 has (or had, I haven't paid attention) some spot in the top 10 for Mario RPG and iirc one of the top ff5/ff4 runners is also female.
 
ducktales4gameboy said:
pidge01 has (or had, I haven't paid attention) some spot in the top 10 for Mario RPG and iirc one of the top ff5/ff4 runners is also female.
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pidge01 is #11 in the SMRPG category that anyone actually runs.

The other 2 categories (Beat Cluex, Low Level) she's top 10 by virtue of less than 10 people ever running either category.

Pidge01 also owns a bunch of "Top 10" "Top 3" in some other worthless game that no one runs as well (Crystal Caves 1).
 
GDQ stopped being tolerable after they banned all the genuinely talented/funny runners for wrongthink or swearing, started pushing those fucking dono messages hard even if it means interrupting a runners explanations and made it a weird pronoun-fest.
 
EmpGulcasa said:
GDQ stopped being tolerable after they banned all the genuinely talented/funny runners for wrongthink or swearing, started pushing those fucking dono messages hard even if it means interrupting a runners explanations and made it a weird pronoun-fest.
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Trannies ruin everything

Ancient greek proverb
 
ESA started today if anyone is looking for some new background noise. Haven't actually caught any so can't comment on the quality, and I think there's only been a handful of runs so far.
 
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