Speedrun Event General - AGDQ Up! - Exceptional people play games really fast
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The dancing game 'runs' were already pretty shit/underwhelming the last few years anyway. I'm usually not a fan of showcases in the first place, but them doing it while wearing a mask is sure to make things worse; Though I'm pretty sure they'll be doing it remotely, since that's why they ended up introducing them after 2020 in the first place, as pretty much the only 'gimmick run' left in GDQ.
It's really not worth watching anyway. It gets boring, fast, and if you've seen them do it once, it really doesn't change much between the editions they've ran on GDQ.
Regardless, the mask thing is really dumb considering that not only have restrictions been pretty much completely removed everywhere, but even before that, most on-screen productions went out of their way to avoid having people wear masks when they were presenting to camera. You can see the reason why here, in all honesty; In the few runs I've watched, the masked speedrunners seem to be even worse at commentary than usual.
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Somewhat-related to music games, but a few weeks before this, GDQ held a mini "Juneteeth" pander-thon. During this, a Japanese arcade music game called Chunithm Paradise Lost was showcased.
You'll notice it was clearly skipped over in the GDQ YT channel... (in between Rhythm Heaven Fever and Mario Kart 8 .)
....and that's because the "runner" had the bright idea to stream the game using homebrew pirated data on his own desktop and basically advocated pirating it. Which is a huge fucking no-no in the RGC due to it being a gigantic legal action lawsuit magnet from the Japanese. And it was somehow approved for public broadcast.
Naturally, when people called this out, this was the mods response.
(obv a troll acct but still)
However, GDQ clearly made an oopsie.
tl;dr (yeah i know it's tv tropes):
You'll notice it was clearly skipped over in the GDQ YT channel... (in between Rhythm Heaven Fever and Mario Kart 8 .)
....and that's because the "runner" had the bright idea to stream the game using homebrew pirated data on his own desktop and basically advocated pirating it. Which is a huge fucking no-no in the RGC due to it being a gigantic legal action lawsuit magnet from the Japanese. And it was somehow approved for public broadcast.
Naturally, when people called this out, this was the mods response.
(obv a troll acct but still)
However, GDQ clearly made an oopsie.
tl;dr (yeah i know it's tv tropes):
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I think someone else hit it on the head. We've seen the same games run over and over again for years and there are really only about 10-20 games that are interesting. The show itself became ultra-sanitized and I can only handle so many flagrant displays of autogynephilia per day.
It's about as exciting as watching a webcam feed of homeless guys shooting up, jerking each other off, and slowly killing themselves. On the plus side, it is a great display of what happens without a functioning and sane mental health care system.
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It's also the issue that GDQ isn't "the speedrun stream" anymore. You can just watch a speedrun whenever you want, however you want.
You can find streamers live on Twitch basically whenever you want who are constantly speedrunning. If you're pressed for time, you can just watch the "good" runs on Youtube or even highlights if you're extremely pressed for time.
The GDQ format is horrendous. It was neat at some point for it to be basically 24/7, but no one is going to watch Mario Party at 2 AM.
The runs are terrible - in an effort to get as many people as possible, the schedule has all kinds of extremely boring "gimmick runs" - either runs that are entirely boringly Out of Bounds or runs that are done in under ~20 minutes. There are parts of speedrunning that are really amazing, but "Jumping up and Down in a corner, going out of bounds, and just walking in a straight line to the end of level marker" is 100% not one of them.
The games are also all over the fucking place - it's flooded with garbage that only like ~13 people run or extremely uncreative runs. There's a borderlands run called (Geared UVHM) - you can create a character and give them any item in the game possible, as long as it's possible to get. It's just someone wrecking the game with a completely broken build - not because of a smart route or careful planning - just "what if we started with whatever we wanted".
It's hard to look at the schedule and think "I'd watch that", then hope it's during a time you might be free, and hope it's being run by someone who isn't complete dogshit. It's not shocking most people go "fuck it" and type the run into youtube instead.
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Are there any GDQ runs actually worth watching in the last couple marathons? My interest kinda died off when the wokeness started and covid killed it entirely since most of the runners have the charisma of a potato and lack the knowledge to really break the game codewise. The paper mario stop and swap run was neat but that's the last real one I can think of that was fun from a tech perspective.
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I think GDQ works better if they tried to be an entertaining showcase type of thing. Show interesting runs and strategies that gives some insight into the game, jumping out of the map and avoiding the entire game is boring as fuck.
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Yeah but that might make people not focus on how INCLUSIVE and BRAVE GDQ and the runners are.
We all know they don't care if it entertaining or not. GDQ at this point is a shambling walking tranny corpse after joining the 41%. It doesn't matter how awful it looks or how bad it smells. It is here to keep riding Woke train. Skimming money off idiots who are not donating because of what ever the charity is, but because it makes them feel good, and they get a bit of attention when funny man says what ever name they used, and shitty joke message they added to it.
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Yeah. Mario Maker team races were fun but they were denied doing another one a couple of years ago. Odd randomizers could be fun filler, shorter games I mean with that, like a Castlevania 1 where things change, even physics, between levels and it needs a skilled runner to complete it in 20-30 minutes despite the bullshit thrown at him or (him).
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Makes me nostalgic for when the 2am Mario Party afterstream from 2013? where everyone was drunk and swearing like mad and iirc trihex was so out of it he could barely string a sentence together yet he could still button mash like a demon.
It seems like something that funny happening out of the blue is inevitably the beginning of the end for whatever stream it's on.
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I think that's one of several reasons people prefer ESA. Before they were kinda a GDQ clone, at least in general format, but they allow their runners/commenters to have fun and not treat things too seriously. Over time, that fun attitude also led to accepting some weirder/more obscure runs/categories. They still have some duds and repeat games, sure, but it feels like they at least try and keep entertainment in mind.
There's usually a few worth watching on YouTube after. But out of all the runs each year, I'd say maybe a small handful. That number might increase if you enjoy cringe/so bad it's good videos. But even in that department, I think GDQ fails to deliver these days. Everything is just so stale and boring, so we're unlikely to get someone on the couch passive aggressively addressing the audience. I've only caught a few runs this year, and usually as background noise, but funny enough, some of the remote runners have way more energy and aren't phoning it in as much as the people who are physically there. I think not having to physically interact with the staff helps a lot with that.
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So many troons
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I sincerely enjoyed GDQ till a few years ago (the blueglass years) and was looking forward to every event. But already before they started with the stupid pronoun shit it went downhill more and more and nowadays I couldn‘t care less.
What started out as a fun-for-all event is now just a woke and soulless shell of itself.
The last bits of joy they killed with the mask mandates this year.
What started out as a fun-for-all event is now just a woke and soulless shell of itself.
The last bits of joy they killed with the mask mandates this year.
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I completely agree. A lot of people blame the troons for GDQ going downhill, and while that certainly isn't helping things, I don't think removing them would suddenly make GDQ as good as it was in previous years. It'd be a step in the right direction for sure, but there are still a lot of other issues.
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Member when they didn‘t end the stream right after the finale of the official show, but kept the thing going and allowed any attendee who felt like it to simply play whatever, without any schedule, restrictions or anything? I member. These were the good times.
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Wait, when's the last time TASbot wasn't all emus?
Depending on how far back you want to go, the 2019(?) Split/Second run is good and worth a watch. It was submitted by a troll who didn't even run the (totally dead) game competitively, had a random twitch streaming friend join as his couch at the last second and then thoroughly embarrassed her along with everyone else. 4chan loved it, copers were seething.
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Adding onto this if you want another troll run, Rocko's Quest from a couple years ago was pretty good.
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well, dread was about the only run i thought might be kinda hype, but somehow it has gone full cringefest. i know it is beating a dead horse at this point, but i remember getting into speedrunning nearly 10 years ago watching sgdq 2013 videos, and i loved the in-depth commentary and explanations from actual top level runners. that’s another thing i think might go unnoticed by the casual viewer, is that for a lot of games now (except for your extremely popular titles like SM64 and super metroid), top competitors are rarely the ones running. it’s just a continual cringefest of mid-level runners kind of semi-speedwalking through the game, while the announcer spergs out all “we just passed TWO MILLION DOLLARS OMFGLMAOOOOLOLOLOLOL!!!11!1” it’s honestly hard to believe people with normal social skills even watch anymore because of how downright annoying it is.
the guy running dread right now, no offense to him, is playing a category that has had a new trick for almost three months that allows a route change which saves multiple minutes, that he just refused to learn. it’s actually easily one of the most interesting tricks in the category, but he just grinded the old route for 3 months instead. GDQ is an event by amateurs, for amateurs, used to scam socially retarded dipshits out of millions of dollars for charities that are probably corrupt as shit anyway.
the guy running dread right now, no offense to him, is playing a category that has had a new trick for almost three months that allows a route change which saves multiple minutes, that he just refused to learn. it’s actually easily one of the most interesting tricks in the category, but he just grinded the old route for 3 months instead. GDQ is an event by amateurs, for amateurs, used to scam socially retarded dipshits out of millions of dollars for charities that are probably corrupt as shit anyway.
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That's a spiffy card and all, but why'd you just repeat "FREE SPACE" in all the boxes? Doesn't seem like a very challenging game of bingo to me.
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I imagine the reason for that is they're trying to give runners lower in the leaderboards a chance and to get them some exposure, figuring that it would be boring if it was the same handful of faces at every GDQ. Ironically a lot of these mid-level runners are themselves boring and so are their runs since they're not as skilled as the top competitors. GDQ should narrow their pool from the Top 100 to the Top 50 or something, I'm sorry but no one wants to see some nn that's miles behind the WR.
But probably the worst aspect of this GDQ were the runs that were near or just before some bonus game, because that meant the announcer was shilling H A R D to get the donation limit met, often interrupting the runner and his couch. Must have been demoralizing for those runners, as their moment to shine was getting clouded by the announcer reading donations for the bonus run up next and not theirs. Aggressive announcers were a real fucking problem this time around, just constantly looking for an opportunity to speak. They should only speak when asked to by the runner or the couch.