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For Xbox this is a generation of QoL first and foremost it seems, which is fine by me. I never really cared about the exclusives past the 360 era anyways.
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Wrong. It's a corporation-thing in general.
Microsoft was also afflicted by the same "3rd console curse" of arrogance after their 2nd console was a big hit alongside Nintendo, Sega, Sony, & Atari.
It's simple really, when a company sees the army of consoomers they've accumulated embrace their brand as a lifestyle and their logos as religious iconography, it's easy to understand why they think they can serve their congregation shit and get away with it.
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If it was real QOL they wouldn't be pushing cloud garbage.
Everything they're offering has some sort of caveat attached to it. Like the backwards compatibility for example, that's all online server based and the games that this works for is limited. it's still better to keep the original systems around than to buy the modern alternative if you want to play older games.
And streaming games can just fuck right off, you have zero ways of backing up or controlling the actual game data. All that the Gamepass is, is basically a rental service, but once the price gets raised and they put games out that will be intended for the higher tiered version of the service, it's going to show it's flaws in a major way.
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No. It was the XBO that had the superior ESRAM.
Problem was the bloody thing was weak in every other dept due to budgeting. Since they were hellbent on bundling the kinect with it, if they had made a console on par with the PS4 graphically, they'd have to sell it at $7-800. The og XBO was the 360 on a slight steroid boost. Many of it's games couldn't even run at 1080p30FPS, instead going for 900p24FPS or 720p30FPS.
It's funny you think Nintendo doesn't please woketards even though they donated millions to BLM and bent the knee multiple times to the DNC as far back as the 90s.
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It gets ignored/doesn't count. They have hired both bill Nye and Brie Larson to do adverts, despite both being pozzed to hell
Labo was just pozzed in general because they even hired a bunch of gender special children to even promote it
But there's a fuckton of the stuff going around, it's just the general multinational corporation schtick. Like how the 1950's had it's own style of companies and ways of advertising, it's just like wokeism of today.
Just look at any 1950's ad, they have some bullshit claim backed up by a Soda Advisory Council board or some made up bullshit. It's really no different than today.
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Yeah not being able to make games is definitely a fly in Microsoft's ointment.
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>tfw a subscription service and Switch have more value than owning a Sony PS5
Yes, I'm aware PC exists but I'm speaking in context with consoles.
Yes, I'm aware PC exists but I'm speaking in context with consoles.
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This age-old maxim will always be true:
Nintendo × PC Master Race
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The difference is that in the past and in your example, companies were trying to sell their prouct. Make a potential buyer from a carefully considered market feel as though they're making an informed purchasing decision. Via truth or deception convince people to buy units.
Today, companies try to sell ideology or sell the idea that their product is libtard friendly. The product, which is the only thing that delivers value to the customer, is an after thought.
It's more akin to a grift than advertising. Associate with the loudest and most beligerent public opinion and hope a few passersby throw some coins their way. Are they reaching their target audience or a market compatible with their offering? Will they alienate member of their current client base? Doesn't matter they have the same message that is popular on Twitter.
What we have today is far more pathetic and gay than greasy corporations latching on to advertising trends of the time to sell product.
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Yes, it's better to own the original hardware. The fact that MS worked to even ADD backwards compatibility to Xbox One after launch is admirable in and of itself. Especially after their botched launch with "always on DRM."
They basically had to build an Xbox 360 onto an Xbox One, two different architectures running in tandem.
It's limited because developers and publishers have to agree to the BC program.
That's ... the idea. Like PlayStation Now, it's a streaming subscription service akin to Netflix or Hulu. You pay to stream or "rent" games on the services. Game Pass Ultimate has the advantage of streaming select games on devices AND the EA Play subscription included with it.
It's an option and you still have the ability to purchase the game outright.
Personally, I find the aspect of streaming video games to be next generation.
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The whole problem with streaming is that it's taking away whatever rights the end user had and is putting it entirely in the hands of the company itself. It's not like movies' where you can just record what's going on screen to watch later. With games all the data is belonging to the company itself which means any type of fuckery like a Warcraft 3 reforged or any type of update that breaks something, there's no option on the user's end to revert back like if you owned the physical media itself.
And the same thing is going to happen like with movies, you're now going to get the larger companies like Ubisoft or Activision having their own streaming services and everything will start to migrate off the larger services gutting them, so now if you want new stuff you can't just buy a disc and be done with it, you have to stay subbed to like 5 or 6 different services.
Like Disney is dead set on having Mandolorean not get a physical release, what's to say the next Elder Scrolls or Fallout will be streaming only? You're sacrificing whatever freedom you may have on your software and exchanging it all for convenience. People are acting like these streaming services will continue to be a dollar forever and that nothing will change or alter the course of these services if they become embedded enough.
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Only Xbone exclusive that was really worthwhile was Sunset Overdrive. A game that now has a PC port. I can dress up as a member of a crossover thrash band and kill energy drink monsters while listening to punk rock and doing parkour. What's not to love?
Seriously, Sunset Overdrive is awesome. If you're running a CPU with a higher boost clock speed than it's stock clock speed, ignore the warning that pops up when you start the game. It runs fine once boost turns on. Hope Insomniac can make another game like this one day.
Microsoft seemed to focus more on multiplats by the middle of the 7th gen. 360 was the multiplat console, PS3 was the exclusives console. Wii was, well, the Wii.
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PS3 was the shittiest era by far imo, by and large the worst Sony has ever done:
- a console that was absolutely shit to develop for
- by and large abandonment of their classic series (crash, spyro, jak, etc)
- super expensive without a lot to set themselves apart from the rest.
Frankly the only thing that makes the PS4 not as trash by comparison are that they didn't make the thing so damn complex that nothing games could be made for it and they brought back a lot of classics to it, along with better price points. None of that would've mattered if Xbox wasn't content with fucking up everything at every turn tho.
This generation is almost certainly going to be another huge fuckup for sony tho. Xbox out the gate is swinging hard with the Series S as an option and made a massive power play by swallowing up bethesda. Meanwhile, Sonys getting rid of a ton of legacy content by taking down the PS3 and Vita stores, and pissing a lot of people off in the process. Nevermind a lot of promised games (7R parts and Beyond Good and Evil 2) almost certainly coming out on PS5 exclusively
- a console that was absolutely shit to develop for
- by and large abandonment of their classic series (crash, spyro, jak, etc)
- super expensive without a lot to set themselves apart from the rest.
Frankly the only thing that makes the PS4 not as trash by comparison are that they didn't make the thing so damn complex that nothing games could be made for it and they brought back a lot of classics to it, along with better price points. None of that would've mattered if Xbox wasn't content with fucking up everything at every turn tho.
This generation is almost certainly going to be another huge fuckup for sony tho. Xbox out the gate is swinging hard with the Series S as an option and made a massive power play by swallowing up bethesda. Meanwhile, Sonys getting rid of a ton of legacy content by taking down the PS3 and Vita stores, and pissing a lot of people off in the process. Nevermind a lot of promised games (7R parts and Beyond Good and Evil 2) almost certainly coming out on PS5 exclusively
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Don't forget removing the ability to install Linux onto the system when it was first launched despite it being one of the main selling points for it.
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Poor sales.
Those games are essentially sandboxes for modding. The vanilla Beth experience by itself is unbelievably droll and mediocre.
Agreed.
It's all about conditioning people to accept then require these services in their daily lives.
15 years ago virtually no one was onboard music streaming when Rhapsody, Zune, and iTunes were doing it. Once they figured out that it's better to gauge a fiver than a twenty from suckers forever, the people flocked and abandoned their CDs and MP3 libraries. Today, most people can't live without their spotify or apple music.
I'd say it's too late for games right now as well; even if you buy physical now, the games come broken and require massive patches to work, and some games don't have any data on disc besides a confirmation key, meaning you don't even own the game you bought for offline play. Do people, even in this thread, care? No. "It's more convenient to have digital library than a physical one."
You will own nothing and be happy.
Honestly, the same could be said anywhere. Just check their browsing histories.
The 2000s Vita models are shit screen-wise.
Get a 1000-1001 version with an OLED instead, it's much better outdoors and is more modding friendly.
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They should add it on Game Pass Ultimate. Insomniac needs to find a developer for it since they're a Sony first party studio now. It's under limbo at this point.
I don't like how Sony and Activision are doing timed exclusivity with CoD. A month early access to DLC, okay. But a whole game mode for a year? Come one. Other companies are doing this too with Sony. It's very anti-consumer.
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Every single platform is doing this in some fashion, this isn't something that's exclusive to sony.
Exclusive DLC, modes, and even performance patches now. I've doubled dipped more in the last generation than previous because some games came packaged with stuff that wasn't present on the other.
Monster Hunter Rise will have exclusive events, armor, and weapons that the PC version will not have. But Rise also may not be coming to steam and another storefront may apparently want to put their own stuff into the game.
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I was thinking about DRAM, PS4 did not have ESRAM but it had GDDR5 which was better than Xbone's DDR3, however Xbone put the RAM to better use since Sony can't make a decent operating system.
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This happened with the 360. It was mostly timed exclusives that would come to PS3 and PC later on. Most of Oblivion's DLC was PC and 360 exclusive. Exclusive content for the top selling console of that generation has, sadly, been standard since the 7th gen.
Had broadband internet access been more widespread throughout most of the 6th gen, the PS2 would have had exclusive DLC. Only the Dreamcast and original Xbox had built in online. You had to get add-ons to use the online for PS2 and Gamecube.
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Advertising can be considered a from of grift("Burgers?" anyone), the term Snake oil Salesman exists for a reason.
Them claiming that their products are ideologically sound and pure is no different than someone claiming their magic oil can cure all your physical pains. In both instances it's effectively just a placebo.
In both instances they're just trying to sell you a product. Their advertising hooks are different, but they are the same.