r/mendrawingwomen - "STOP DRAWING WOMEN THE WAY YOU WANT TO"

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Shit like blatant cleavage and womanly hips, or more specific?
That, yes. I can't be bothered to dig up examples right now, but there's an artist specific over in the SJW art and extremes thread that draws Leon from RE2 with pecs that more closely resemble big flat feminine breasts.

Also yaoi hands, or big long taffy bodies, or just adding too many abdominal muscles.
 
Holy shit this looks terrible. The hawkeye initiative shit is usually stupid, but fuck me this is on a whole other level. These people truly think men and women are the same, don't they? Ffs the guy on the bottom literally has the hips of a woman. @RazorBackBacon
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These people are truly pathetic. These are the same people who "laugh" (more like seethe) at and cry about muh "degenerate male coomers". @mortal decay

This subbreddit is full of people that need to be gatekept out of every hobby ever.
 
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They're still doing that?
EDIT: Some clarification. The "Hawkeye Initiative" was a meme from around 2010. I had to make sure it wasn't an old post but it's fairly recent.
 
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" They're still doing that?"


They still cry about characters like r mika and quiet from mgs. These people will never stop seething about sexy characters from the past, even when most western game developers cater to them anyways. Its almost like they genuinely believe thay anything that is "sexist" shouldnt be allowed to exist in the first place.
 
" They're still doing that?"


They still cry about characters like r mika and quiet from mgs. These people will never stop seething about sexy characters from the past, even when most western game developers cater to them anyways. Its almost like they genuinely believe thay anything that is "sexist" shouldnt be allowed to exist in the first place.
Which makes no sense to me, instead wasting your time circlejerking the same old oversexed female of the month, why not lift up female representation that isn't overtly sexualized? but nah, negativity is what makes the world go reeee for these folks. Like, I once saw a poster complaining about the amount of positivity post as of late, despite them being the least crappy part of the subreddit (which is saying something).
Holy shit this looks terrible. The hawkeye initiative shit is usually stupid, but fuck me this is on a whole other level. These people truly think men and women are the same, dont they? Ffs the guy on the bottom literally has the hips of a woman. @RazorBackBacon

I can see the reason the hawkeye initiative exist but I can't help but feel these satire post are emblematic of the "men are unsexy" thing that's been festering society for ages. Any attempt at making a "sexy" male character is normally done for subverting expectations and sticking it to the CISheteronormative patriarchy, ignoring how the straight female gaze even works. Most sane women don't want to see barely clothed men presenting their asses to the viewer. they want tasteful, scenic stuff which showcases the male subjects inner thoughts and desires. Of course there's the nymphos out there who want to go straight to the horny but for others, this is the best thing there is to catering towards them. But as we all know, most r/mendrawingwomen posters are either sexless femcels, lesbos, and male simps who have no clue how women actually work.

There's a time and place for critiquing and laughing at sexy lady pin-ups that turn out to be unsexy abombnations because the artist didn't even bother looking up a anatomy book. That image right there ain't it In my opinion.
 
Most sane women don't want to see barely clothed men presenting their asses to the viewer. they want tasteful, scenic stuff which showcases the male subjects inner thoughts and desires.
I don't know if that's a "normal" straight woman thing but my wife is a big fan of Captain America in the MCU. Not necessarily because Chris Evans is a hunk there (and he is), but he gets plenty of scenes where he's not just looking like a big chunk of beefcake, he's also using those muscles. That short scene where he's arguing with Tony Stark while they both chop wood, for example, is one of her favorites for it.

It all circles back to men and women being different, and so putting a man in a traditionally "sexy female" outfit and/or pose is only going to make him look ridiculous. Just like putting a scrawny woman in a uniform tailored for men is going to make her look like a child. But since most of these people are as you mentioned sexless idiots of various stripes (both femcels and incels-turned-troons) whose sexuality has been twisted into pretzels, they don't actually understand how real people operate.
 
It still shocks me just how much this circle of Socjus hates Sakimichan. She does admittedly have some issues with edging into sameface, but it really does feel that they hate her for showing that women like drawing beef and cheesecake just as much as men do.
Eh, even the best artists do have cases of 'same face', but that's because symmetrical faces are deemed more beautiful, and there is a scientific basis for that. The artist of my pfp, Dandon Fuga, does have this issue, but there is enough diversity within that you can tell which character is which. Anime is known for same-face and back in the day DrShaym pointed it out and I haven't forgotten it since.

Sakimichan's real issue with me is that sometimes the legs on the women she draws end up looking like chicken legs. I think she's tried to improve that over time. Otherwise, I love the way she draws leather.
Dangerhairs love to nitpick male artists getting some tiny little bit of female anatomy wrong, but if I had a nickle for every female artist who had glaring issues with male anatomy I'd be a wealthy pig.
Upside down dicks and wrongly placed anuses are things I've seen.
 
I guess we can just post stuff in the spirit of r/mendrawingwomen.
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Where are we in a society where someone thinks the Sisters of Battle from Warhammer are too sexy? Okay, so there are guys who like to give them flesh colored leggings but that's hardly GW's fault. In the end though, all this guy did was draw a Space Marine.
 
These people truly think men and women are the same, dont they?
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Really looks like in the "communist paradise" of SJW delusion, sex differences magically stop at genitals and chromosomes, and it's "sexist" to see the sexes as different.

And "gender is a social construct" to SJWs, so they think they can identify as any "gender" they feel: all the "genders" on Tumblr.
 
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Really looks like in the "communist paradise" of SJW delusion, sex differences magically stop at genitals and chromosomes, and it's "sexist" to see the sexes as different.

And "gender is a social construct" to SJWs, so they think they can identify as any "gender" they feel: all the "genders" on Tumblr.

- Leftists and Progressives' goals include fighting any "system of oppression".
- Reality is for them a system of oppression.
- Therefore reality must be denied and cancelled.

Once you realize that this is how the left thinks, then you can understand their actions.
 
Where are we in a society where someone thinks the Sisters of Battle from Warhammer are too sexy?
They've complained about the sororitas for years, in between demanding female space marines and almost literally worshipping slaneesh. It's like they don't get that the 40k universe is supposed to be fucking awful, or that the minis are meant to be easily recognisable at tabletop distances. L

That redesigned sisters armour is the most generic, uinteresting blob of nothing. It would be impossible to distinguish from all the other generic designs they demand for the setting.
 
I don't know if that's a "normal" straight woman thing but my wife is a big fan of Captain America in the MCU. Not necessarily because Chris Evans is a hunk there (and he is), but he gets plenty of scenes where he's not just looking like a big chunk of beefcake, he's also using those muscles. That short scene where he's arguing with Tony Stark while they both chop wood, for example, is one of her favorites for it.

It all circles back to men and women being different, and so putting a man in a traditionally "sexy female" outfit and/or pose is only going to make him look ridiculous. Just like putting a scrawny woman in a uniform tailored for men is going to make her look like a child. But since most of these people are as you mentioned sexless idiots of various stripes (both femcels and incels-turned-troons) whose sexuality has been twisted into pretzels, they don't actually understand how real people operate.
It kind of is though? it's the real reason behind woman's love of hands. They don't care for the hands themselves but what the hands can do to them when it's sexy time or when he gets to use it in day to day task. The thing these people often forget is sexuality isn't just based on visuals but also movement and action. Some guy sitting around does nothing but when he speaks, showcasing his character and actions, instant swoon bait. Not trying to hammer in the whole "men are visual" since I learn this aspect was a load of bull, but there's more that goes on with a woman's attraction to a man that most people don't realize.

Many of these so-called guys in uncomfy, titillating poses does nothing for a lot of women and feels borderline insulting to actual female sexuality as a whole. Very unfeminist if you ask me, but most mainstream feminist never had women in mind these days.

I guess we can just post stuff in the spirit of r/mendrawingwomen.
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Where are we in a society where someone thinks the Sisters of Battle from Warhammer are too sexy? Okay, so there are guys who like to give them flesh colored leggings but that's hardly GW's fault. In the end though, all this guy did was draw a Space Marine.

Why do some people insist on highlighting a character's femininity even when blatant gender markers have been removed? The character is implied to be a "woman" underneath the armor, but it's not explicitly stated. So I ask what even is the purpose of mentioning that? Are some dudebros gonna forget she's female as soon as you remove her boobplate? not trying to say it's a bad thing or anything, lord knows I hate it when a female characters only personality trait is "WOMAN" with neon signs pointing to her womanhood. but, at the same time, this has always bothered me for ages now and this image is representative of everything wrong with needing highlight a character's trival traits. These are also the same individuals who claim to speak on the behalf of the downtrodden only for it to turn out they had none to savory intentions behind it all.

Really looks like in the "communist paradise" of SJW delusion, sex differences magically stop at genitals and chromosomes, and it's "sexist" to see the sexes as different.

And "gender is a social construct" to SJWs, so they think they can identify as any "gender" they feel: all the "genders" on Tumblr.

Biological sex has a huge impact on everything, from how your body works to how people perceive you. Sure, men and women are still both humans who deserve some form of equity. But, we're simply not the same and folks preaching this narrative that we are the same, just "built different", is a load of horseradish.
 
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Did you mean "equality" there? "Equity" is some SJW buzzword that seems to mean preferential treatment of a "marginalized group" as if they're a homogeneous collective.

And yeah, it's a modern delusion to think that men and women somehow only differ physically.
I assumed equality meant making everything equalized, getting rid of differences whereas equity is fairness and allowing the gaps to close while also acknowledging the pros and cons and each person. But yea maybe equal would have made more sense.
 
Old post but fuck it, found this little gem.
The post title really spells out why I hate these people. They think that their disregard for verisimilitude is perfectly acceptable, but get pissy when somebody tells them to suspend their disbelief just the slightest bit. After all, how dare people want Medieval European Fantasy to look like Medieval Europe, and how dare they think that having a cast mostly composed of beautiful people is an acceptable break from reality!

I know I should probably oppose the Power Girl statement on principle due to my hatred of the "verisimilitude no real cuz magic" line, but I still comprehend the point clearly: superheroes, as a sort of American God Mythos, represent human glory and components of existence personified into an idealized human form, and so Power Girl being a buxom bombshell is par for the course of those design principles just as Superman is designed as a tall, muscular, and ruggedly handsome man. Complaining that an idealized woman has physical traits that are considered exceptionally desirable is stupid if you're not also going to complain about her being a literal superhuman with abilities far beyond what is normal for humanity.
 
More seething from these people. Apparently drawing conventionally attractive women means you "don't respect women". Also LMAOING at the "comic books need to have more diverse depictions of women", since if I were to make a comic with 10 female characters, and 9 of them were "realistic", and 1 was sexy, they would still get mad that the sexy one exists. And most mainstream media appeals to these people now anyways. When was the last time a marvel or dc comic had blatant fanservice?
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More power girl seething (they really have a hate boner for frank cho). @Flaming Insignias
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More power girl seething (they really have a hate boner for frank cho). @Flaming Insignias
Please see my post above about superheroes and the Human Ideal. Power Girl's cleavage window is a rather iconic part of her design, and it irritates me that they have to try to come up with a hundred different explanations when “she's hot and she knows it” should suffice. Hell, Kryptonians could theoretically fight naked with minimal issue because of how tough they are. That said, I found her explanation on why she doesn't wear a mask to be hilarious.
More seething from these people. Apparently drawing conventionally attractive women means you "dont respect women". Also LMAOING at the "comic books need to have more diverse depictions of women", since if I were to make a comic with 10 female characters, and 9 of them were "realistic", and 1 was sexy, they would still get mad that the sexy one exists. And most mainstream media appeals to these people now anyways. When was the last time a marvel or dc comic had blatant fanservice?
“Writers respect cats more than women” because they draw different breeds of cats but not fatass heroes? Give me a break. Of all the characters to complain about body types for, they choose the acrobatic cat burglar in a catsuit (who also themes herself after cats). Selina's got a gymnast's body, stop acting like she should look like Momokun.

There, I think I got it out of my system.
 
Please see my post above about superheroes and the Human Ideal. Power Girl's cleavage window is a rather iconic part of her design, and it irritates me that they have to try to come up with a hundred different explanations when “she's hot and she knows it” should suffice. Hell, Kryptonians could theoretically fight naked with minimal issue because of how tough they are. That said, I found her explanation on why she doesn't wear a mask to be hilarious.

“Writers respect cats more than women” because they draw different breeds of cats but not fatass heroes? Give me a break. Of all the characters to complain about body types for, they choose the acrobatic cat burglar in a catsuit (who also themes herself after cats). Selina's got a gymnast's body, stop acting like she should look like Momokun.

There, I think I got it out of my system.
More seething from these people. Apparently drawing conventionally attractive women means you "dont respect women". Also LMAOING at the "comic books need to have more diverse depictions of women", since if I were to make a comic with 10 female characters, and 9 of them were "realistic", and 1 was sexy, they would still get mad that the sexy one exists. And most mainstream media appeals to these people now anyways. When was the last time a marvel or dc comic had blatant fanservice?
More power girl seething (they really have a hate boner for frank cho). @Flaming Insignias
You know, the more I see these people, the more I laugh and/or scoff at them.

These people have so much time on their hands and they want to spend it doing stupid shit like this.

It’s just embarrassing really.
 
The post title really spells out why I hate these people. They think that their disregard for verisimilitude is perfectly acceptable, but get pissy when somebody tells them to suspend their disbelief just the slightest bit. After all, how dare people want Medieval European Fantasy to look like Medieval Europe, and how dare they think that having a cast mostly composed of beautiful people is an acceptable break from reality!

I know I should probably oppose the Power Girl statement on principle due to my hatred of the "verisimilitude no real cuz magic" line, but I still comprehend the point clearly: superheroes, as a sort of American God Mythos, represent human glory and components of existence personified into an idealized human form, and so Power Girl being a buxom bombshell is par for the course of those design principles just as Superman is designed as a tall, muscular, and ruggedly handsome man. Complaining that an idealized woman has physical traits that are considered exceptionally desirable is stupid if you're not also going to complain about her being a literal superhuman with abilities far beyond what is normal for humanity.

I could careless when a few brown folks pop up here and there as long as majority of the cast are white but I guess that's unsatisfactory for some uber woke folks. If you so much as ask why their fantasy story that takes place in some nordic medieval state has most of its cast being some kind of PoC or queer, they'd be having a hissy fit rivialing a five year old. Really shows how screwed their priorities are. If these guys are fine with inaccurate historical fantasies, then why get your panties in twist when a fictional story has hot people in it? believe it or not, not everyone is into being reminded of how ugly the real world is, and shoehorning that in is a needless endeavor.

The keyword here is escapism, a brief break from reality when things get stressful. Piling in more stress just makes for a worse story, I say.

I use to have the inclusively body positive mentality that had rotted these people's brains and made them woke husk of their former selves. I was drawn in by the ventful rants that society is cruel to any that don't fit their unholy beauty standards and their treatment of female characters. But as time went on, the cracks begin to show and it was clear their motives were self-serving at best. They didn't REALLY care about the lives of actual people, but literal pixels on a screen that has no autonomy because they're byproducts of the creators who made them. They can't be beholden to the same agency as real people because they're fictional and realizing that should clue them in on how unnecessary this all was. But what really broke camel's back for me was them getting pissed at actual porn art, where the logistic actually make sense for everything to be horny because lord forbid you draw a conventionally attractive female.

it was a clear as day I just wasn't welcome in that space and packed my bags and left. And honestly, did wonders for my mental health. I can draw whatever I want without the worry of trying to appease a crowd of self-entitled narcs who wish to hijack creator's personal visions for their own self gain. They don't care about justice, just their own self-righteous entitlement. And the sooner some more sane members of that subreddit realize that, the more and more folks leave in droves.
 
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