Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Why aren't early copies leaked yet? What are the starter evolutions?
 
Auk Autist said:
Im pretty sure critics gave it an average score, but then people who were disappointed with Pokemon began review-bombing it despite having never played the game, and then the shills began reverse-bombing with perfect scores. You're probably gonna have to look into it on your own if you want a good picture of what you're actually gonna enjoy.
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Honestly the game deserves the hate, it's only difficult because it's pure RNG the whole way through. It feels like a lot of the worst aspects of Darkest Dungeon combined with some more RNG. That and remove all the team building and a lot of customization (more RNG) then you have Little Town Hero. Outside of battles there is literally nothing to it at all. Game is just terrible.

As far as Pokemon S/S, Gamefreak really has me worried. 90% of the game is recycled from 3DS assets, the reveals have been few and far between, and none of the new features seem at all interesting. That whole Ponyta reveal was so bad that I'm definitely not buying it unless they really have some amazing content they haven't revealed. But knowing Gamefreak I'm starting to feel like there is very little to reveal at this point. I really hope I'm wrong.
 
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UntimelyDhelmise said:
I get the feeling a real life Pokemon world would be a lot more dystopian than the games would have us believe. Even assuming legendaries aren't catchable normally, there's still plenty of regular mons with near nuke level capabilities. Psychic types would probably be the worst, dictators could all too easily utilize the more powerful ones to mind control the masses in any which way they choose. And that's even before getting into all the ecoterrorism the elementally-inclined types could render across the globe. And no, despite what GF would tell you no 10 year-old is going to stop that shit.
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TrippinKahlua said:
Why aren't early copies leaked yet? What are the starter evolutions?
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Just had a thought, but aren't most of the leaks that happen a result of someone working in or for OLM? Alola's starter evo leaks were of the model sheets for the anime, and Mega Evolution was leaked (without context) from someone who worked at (and was fired from once discovered) Corocoro. The new anime doesn't look like it's sticking to the status quo, from what I can tell, so it's not just GF that's keeping a tight lid on this, it's also OLM and Corocoro keeping people in line. The threat of termination is too much of a risk for most people over there, they might even potentially be blacklisted from the industry should they get caught.
 
So I went to get the shiny Lunala and Solgaleo and I needed a phone app called pokemon pass??? I dont have that much space on my phone, and it only works at game stop so if I want to use it I have to spoof my location. What dumbass thought this was a good idea?
 
I'm gonna believe the leaks about the final starter evos though.
Scorbunny is a Soccer Bunny
Grookey is a Drum Gorilla
And Sobble is Chameleon Gex.

Just based off context of their reveals and the region it's in.
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
I get the feeling a real life Pokemon world would be a lot more dystopian than the games would have us believe. Even assuming legendaries aren't catchable normally, there's still plenty of regular mons with near nuke level capabilities. Psychic types would probably be the worst, dictators could all too easily utilize the more powerful ones to mind control the masses in any which way they choose. And that's even before getting into all the ecoterrorism the elementally-inclined types could render across the globe. And no, despite what GF would tell you no 10 year-old is going to stop that shit.
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Yeah, you can tell this whole setting about "10 year olds leave home fully unsupervised to explore the world, full of creatures that are are fully capable of incapacitate a full grown adult at the very ñeast or destroy entire cities at the very worst" was mostly an afterthought, since GF didn't think Pokemon would get big in the first place , to be honest, i think that's why Pokemon shouldn't try to take itself very seriously, in a world where some creatures have god-like powers to the point to cause massive extinctions or veven re-write reality, there is no way humans would be the dominant species, so i think it's better to keep things simple
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
I get the feeling a real life Pokemon world would be a lot more dystopian than the games would have us believe. Even assuming legendaries aren't catchable normally, there's still plenty of regular mons with near nuke level capabilities. Psychic types would probably be the worst, dictators could all too easily utilize the more powerful ones to mind control the masses in any which way they choose. And that's even before getting into all the ecoterrorism the elementally-inclined types could render across the globe. And no, despite what GF would tell you no 10 year-old is going to stop that shit.
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And that's only if pokemon like Mewtwo haven't already completely taken over the world by then. Really, any pokemon that's strong and intelligent enough is probably going to start that kind of revolution. It doesn't even necessarily need to be a legendary.
 
We kinda had that in SuMo with Lusamine and Nihelgo. But it'd be cool that instead of an evil team trying to control a legendary, it was a Pokemon secretly controlling the evil team to awaken the legendary.
 
CausticMinory said:
We kinda had that in SuMo with Lusamine and Nihelgo. But it'd be cool that instead of an evil team trying to control a legendary, it was a Pokemon secretly controlling the evil team to awaken the legendary.
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Y'know the X/Y anime actually touched on that kind of scenario with Malamar and it's hynotising abilities.
 
Are there any good reasons to pick up S&S? The more I look at it the more I want to just give up on the series all together. Pokemon used to be my favorite game serious, Crystal is still my favorite video game, but it feels like it's finally strayed from everything that originally made it special. S&S just looks like garbage and the Pokemon don't even look like Pokemon anymore.
 
No Exit said:
the Pokemon don't even look like Pokemon anymore
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When people say that, I get a little confused. Was there ever really a standard set for what a pokemon should look like? Sure, they should look like monsters, but even the first generation had pokemon like Pikachu who didn't evolve into anything fearsome, just something that looked just as cute or a little cooler than the previous Evo.
 
Nauseated Courgi said:
When people say that, I get a little confused. Was there ever really a standard set for what a pokemon should look like? Sure, they should look like monsters, but even the first generation had pokemon like Pikachu who didn't evolve into anything fearsome, just something that looked just as cute or a little cooler than the previous Evo.
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I don't know what other people mean by it but for me it means they don't look like Sugimori's original art style. There was a big shift for Gen 3 where the characters look less 90's rad and more "fisher price-y" as well as the change from water colouring.
So I guess when I say they don't look like Pokemon what I mean is they don't look like my original concept of an official Pokemon.
 
No Exit said:
I don't know what other people mean by it but for me it means they don't look like Sugimori's original art style. There was a big shift for Gen 3 where the characters look less 90's rad and more "fisher price-y" as well as the change from water colouring.
So I guess when I say they don't look like Pokemon what I mean is they don't look like my original concept of an official Pokemon.
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I would also add on that as the number of pokemon climbed higher and higher, you started to have a lot more "redundant" pokemon.

Like, how many pokemon are just birds? It was fine for Pidgey; but, Starly and Pidove just feel like "Pidgey, but slightly different" from a looks and a gameplay perspective. This also happens with Spearow and Ratata - there are slight variations that take on a similar role in the game play (most of those being ones to just collect/fight in random battles).

The game just isn't deep enough to justify literal copies of pokemon (there is a ~10 stat difference between Pidgey, Starly, and Pidove's final forms and all of them are normal/flying - for example and none of them would be considered competitively powerful) and as more pokemon come out, the more copies or slight variations that exist and the more boring the whole thing becomes.

The starters also suffer from this, with them most commonly being a 3-stage water/fire/grass type with some slight variations (usually dual-typing) as do the legendaries (which are frequently /psychic, /flying, /dragon).

Cool pokemon are cool, but it gets a bit tiring when so many are kind of boring.
 
Holy crap, more Kanto-will GF ever stop? I doubt. But Gigantamax Butterfree looks quite cool for its design and like UntimelyDhelmise said, the Pikachu, Eevee and Meowth's Gigantamax designs are SO bland- not even a bit of creativity smh. I just want a Galarian or Gigantamax form of a pokemon not from Gen 1, like idk Shinx? Bewear that could be designed around Winnie the Pooh? (i'd like that though). The only time Ive liked Gen 1 was only because of Bulbasaur and thats it
 
Tanner Glass said:
I would also add on that as the number of pokemon climbed higher and higher, you started to have a lot more "redundant" pokemon.

Like, how many pokemon are just birds? It was fine for Pidgey; but, Starly and Pidove just feel like "Pidgey, but slightly different" from a looks and a gameplay perspective. This also happens with Spearow and Ratata - there are slight variations that take on a similar role in the game play (most of those being ones to just collect/fight in random battles).

The game just isn't deep enough to justify literal copies of pokemon (there is a ~10 stat difference between Pidgey, Starly, and Pidove's final forms and all of them are normal/flying - for example and none of them would be considered competitively powerful) and as more pokemon come out, the more copies or slight variations that exist and the more boring the whole thing becomes.

The starters also suffer from this, with them most commonly being a 3-stage water/fire/grass type with some slight variations (usually dual-typing) as do the legendaries (which are frequently /psychic, /flying, /dragon).

Cool pokemon are cool, but it gets a bit tiring when so many are kind of boring.
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What's so disappointing is that it doesn't HAVE to be like this. There's so many real world animals, objects and myths/legends to draw inspiration from that are completely untapped to this day while they recycle concepts over and over ad nauseam. There's loads more they could do. Where's a dolphin Pokemon? Or a wendigo? Hummingbird? Centaur? Pepper? Clock? Hell there isn't even an actual GRASS Pokemon despite that being the name of an entire type.

Just looking at Galar alone it's sad how many of the few new mons we've got so far already share design origins with past incarnations.

Grooky = Pansage
Scorbunny = Buneary/Bunnelby
Sobble = Kecleon
Eldegoss = Whimsicott
Wooloo = Mareep
Corvinkight = Honchkrow + Skarmory
Alcremie = Slurpuff
 
UntimelyDhelmise said:
What's so disappointing is that it doesn't HAVE to be like this. There's so many real world animals, objects and myths/legends to draw inspiration from that are completely untapped to this day while they recycle concepts over and over ad nauseam. There's loads more they could do. Where's a dolphin Pokemon? Or a wendigo? Hummingbird? Centaur? Pepper? Clock? Hell there isn't even an actual GRASS Pokemon despite that being the name of an entire type.

Just looking at Galar alone it's sad how many of the few new mons we've got so far already share design origins with past incarnations.

Grooky = Pansage
Scorbunny = Buneary/Bunnelby
Sobble = Kecleon
Eldegoss = Whimsicott
Wooloo = Mareep
Corvinkight = Honchkrow + Skarmory
Alcremie = Slurpuff
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It is a bit lazy I feel like - but it feels like they've got the game kind of "set in stone" - you encounter similar pokemon in similar locations (for example - low level birds (Pidgey) and rats (ratatta) with a few others mixed in outside of the starter town) but the game doesn't want to expressly reuse those same pokemon so they make newish versions.
 
Tanner Glass said:
It is a bit lazy I feel like - but it feels like they've got the game kind of "set in stone" - you encounter similar pokemon in similar locations (for example - low level birds (Pidgey) and rats (ratatta) with a few others mixed in outside of the starter town) but the game doesn't want to expressly reuse those same pokemon so they make newish versions.
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Well yeah there will always be the "sets" in every gen (3 starters, first route rodent/bird/bug, psuedo legendary, box legendaries, ect.) I'm more focusing on them as individuals here. Starters in particular need to branch out, they've always a mammal, bird, amphibian or reptile. I'd kill for an arthropod starter (insect/arachnid/crustacean). And before the excuse of "not being cute enough" for the base form comes up, I present to you Joltik.
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