Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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I've been playing the game for a few days now, and i really, really like it. The pokedex still seems to be fucked(maybe not, i'm not sure.) but man this is honestly the ideal pokemon game i had in my head ever since, shoot, at least Pokemon Colosseum on the gamecube disappointed so badly almost 20 years ago. The only thing about it that puts me off is the crappy frame rate on a real switch coupled with the new designs being kinda dumb looking. Haven't really played pokemon since Y, but aside from the Donkey and Flamingo pokemon i haven't really found any new pokemon i really liked, even the starters were underwhelming.
 
KorokiKokoro said:
Looking at some of the leaks I feel the game is going to suffer from some major balancing issues (more than usual anyway), everything about Palafin Hero seems especially broken with a 160 attack stat. Is it supposed to be offset by it's evolution method or what?

Can see this being a big point of contention.
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If you play singles, Smogon might just ban it. If you play doubles, the doubles can balance it out as they do a lot of the extra OP Pokemon for singles.
 
huecoffs02 said:
If you play singles, Smogon might just ban it. If you play doubles, the doubles can balance it out as they do a lot of the extra OP Pokemon for singles.
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It’s also worth noting that Palafin needs switch out with a waiting Pokémon and then switched back out, making it somewhat easier to predict in the long run.
 
Reviews for S/V are coming in, and it's not looking too good, even though the scores still feel inflated:

Digital Trends - Giovanni Colantonio - 3.5 / 5

Pokémon Scarlet and Violet's open-world pivot is exactly what the series needed, though poor tech holds back its true potential.
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Eurogamer - Lottie Lynn - No Recommendation

An interesting reworking of the traditional Pokémon gameplay for an open-world setting brought low by its lifeless environments and graphics
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GameSpot - Jacob Dekker - 8 / 10

Pokemon Scarlet & Violet's open-world approach reinvigorates the long-running series.
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GamesRadar+ - Joel Franey - 3 / 5

"The open world inherently changes so much for the series that it needed a total ground-up rethink of the mechanics"
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Geeks & Com - Anthony Gravel - French - 8.5 / 10

Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet bring some interesting new innovations such as a complete open world and a fun new Let’s Go! mechanic that speeds up fighting. The fact that you can now tale multiple paths really helps to diversify gameplay and the narrative behind is the best the series has to offer. Unfortunately, some technical issues such as texture problems and Pokémons that load too slowly in the open world will irritate players.
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Glitched Africa - Marco Cocomello - 9 / 10

Some ideas might not work and there are some obvious visual issues to overcome but there’s never been a grander, more exciting Pokemon adventure.
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God is a Geek - Adam Cook - 7.5 / 10

Pokemon Scarlet and Violet are great games mired by a host of technical issues.
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Guardian - Tom Regan - 3 / 5

Technical problems and an evident lack of development time take the shine off this ambitious new outing for the world-conquering critters
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IGN - Rebekah Valentine - Unscored

[Review in progress] There really isn’t a moment in these games where I’d say Pokémon Scarlet and Violet run well.
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Inverse - Jess Reyes - 7 / 10

Pokémon Scarlet and Violet give you more choices than ever before. In exchange, it expects you to adapt to its half-baked open world and mostly optional new features. These latest games aren’t the great leap forward from Pokémon Legends: Arceus that fans were hoping for, but it is a small step.
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Metro GameCentral - David Jenkins - 8 / 10

A significant advancement on Pokémon Sword and Shield and while it's not hard to see how it could be improved further this is the most ambitious and entertaining Pokémon has been in a long while.
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Nintendo Life - Alana Hagues - 7 / 10

It's a smaller step than many may have hoped for, especially considering what Pokémon Legends: Arceus did, but it's definitely one in the right direction.
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Polygon - Kenneth Shepard - Unscored

Despite my frustrations with its structure, mechanics, and the fact that it looks and runs like a middling GameCube game most of the time (there were several instances, even outside of the open-world areas, where character animations would drop to near stop-motion levels of movement), I still left Scarlet and Violet enamored by its character relationships and neatly tied-up themes of finding one’s own joy in the big, wild Pokémon world.
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Press Start - Harry Kalogirou - 7.5 / 10

Whilst there's still stumbling missteps as Game Freak try to find their footing in the future of Pokémon, Scarlet and Violet is an endearing, and enjoyable attempt at a fundamentally different Pokémon experience. New ideas, some quality of life improvements, and some excellent new Pokémon designs make the trip to Paldea worthwhile.
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Screen Rant - Cody Gravelle - 4.5 / 5

Pokémon Scarlet & Violet is engrossing at its best but clunky at its worst, offering an uneven but ultimately exceptional experience on Switch.
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Shacknews - Donovan Erskine - 7 / 10

Pokemon Scarlet and Violet are ambitious new entries in the franchise that are held back by abysmal performance issues.
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TheSixthAxis - Jason Coles - 7 / 10

Pokemon Scarlet and Violet feel like the awkward second evolution of one of its starters. It's growing into something resplendent, it's showing signs of an exciting second type, but it's got that weird vibe of a 20-something that hasn't quite figured out who they actually are. Add that weirdly stretched feeling to the constant technical oddities and you've got a game that's undoubtedly good fun, but it's still not even it's final form. I can't wait to see what Pokemon becomes, but it's not quite there yet.
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Unboxholics - Στράτος Χατζηνικολάου - Greek - Worth your time

Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet bring some innovative ideas to the series and freshen it up slightly, with new features that are certainly worthwhile. It's Nintendo's classic and successful formula, with the ninth generation being extremely interesting, with brand new Pokémon, new missions and ideas that are sure to "ring a bell" for hardcore gamers. Is this the next step that Game Freak has been waiting for? The answer is...sort of.
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VG247 - Alex Donaldson - 4 / 5

Pokemon Scarlet & Violet is more than the sum of its parts. Those parts include the woeful performance and optimization problems, which are a real drag – but much of the rest of the title soars so high that it does go a long way to make one ignore them, after a fashion.
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XGN.nl - Luuc ten Velde - Dutch - 7.5 / 10

Pokémon Scarlet & Violet takes the next step for the franchise thanks to the lush open world. Even the new Terastallizing mechanic is great fun, although it is kinda a reskin of an earlier mechanic. Amazing music and some smart design choises make it a game you can't miss. At least, that is what we would've said if the performance wasn't as bad as it is.
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It feels like the game gets an extra +2/10, or +1/5, solely based on the Pokémon brand name. Or maybe they fear that either Nintendo or Ohmori-san will kill them in their sleep, if they rate the games lower.
 
Does anyone know if you can move Pokemon back from Pokemon Bank to Sun/Moon? I found out that Protean only works once per battle now... I have a Keckleon with Protean, so that essentially destroys the defensive use of that ability. I was also irritated when they nerfed Aegislash quite a bit in Sword and Shield. Not to mention, I don't know if all Pokemon will be included between Sword and Shield and Scarlet and Violet.

Please calm it down on the Nerfing Game Freak.
 
Quiet Guy said:
Does anyone know if you can move Pokemon back from Pokemon Bank to Sun/Moon? I found out that Protean only works once per battle now... I have a Keckleon with Protean, so that essentially destroys the defensive use of that ability. I was also irritated when they nerfed Aegislash quite a bit in Sword and Shield. Not to mention, I don't know if all Pokemon will be included between Sword and Shield and Scarlet and Violet.

Please calm it down on the Nerfing Game Freak.
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If you mean from HOME to Bank, then sadly no, since the Bank-to-HOME transfer is only one-way. But if you mean Bank to Sun/Moon, yes you can still do that, as long as you already downloaded it, and have an active subscription, before the 3DS store shuts down next March.

And in terms of Switch games, with S/V's release, there's still about 20 or so Pokémon that still can't be used. Some of those include the Snivy and Tepig-lines, the Gen 5 monkeys, Furfrou, and Minior. And if you don't count BDSP and LA, that's even more that can't be used.

And yes, the sheer number of nerfs in Gen 9 feels like overkill. And it's not the first time GF overdid nerfs, the Dark Void accuracy nerf in Gen 7 was too much, when just making it that Smeargle can't use Dark Void would have sufficed.
 
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Thiletonomics said:
If you mean from HOME to Bank, then sadly no, since the Bank-to-HOME transfer is only one-way. But if you mean Bank to Sun/Moon, yes you can still do that, as long as you already downloaded it, and have an active subscription, before the 3DS store shuts down next March.

And in terms of Switch games, with S/V's release, there's still about 20 or so Pokémon that still can't be used. Some of those include the Snivy and Tepig-lines, the Gen 5 monkeys, Furfrou, and Minior. And if you don't count BDSP and LA, that's even more that can't be used.

And yes, the sheer number of nerfs in Gen 9 feels like overkill. And it's not the first time GF overdid nerfs, the Dark Void accuracy nerf was too much, when just making it that Smeargle can't use Dark Void would have sufficed.
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Actually, it looks like after the eshop shuts down, Pokemon Bank can be used for free, but a subscription of Pokemon Home would be needed to transfer them to the Switch: Pokemon transferring.

Serperior isn't available? That is vexing, since it has a fantastic hidden ability.

I think I may keep my Pokemon on the 3DS for now. The nerfing wouldn't be near as much of an issue if I could transfer Pokemon back and forth.
 
Quiet Guy said:
Actually, it looks like after the eshop shuts down, Pokemon Bank can be used for free, but a subscription of Pokemon Home would be needed to transfer them to the Switch: Pokemon transferring.

Serperior isn't available? That is vexing, since it has a fantastic hidden ability.

I think I may keep my Pokemon on the 3DS for now. The nerfing wouldn't be near as much of an issue if I could transfer Pokemon back and forth.
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Just as long as you downloaded Bank (and Transporter, for Gen 5 and VC transfers), yes you can still use Bank after the E-Shop closure.

Going back to the games, apparently GF removed a lot of enterable buildings, as in the Pokémon Centers are just rest stops now. It's now becoming a game of what feature will get removed in the next Pokémon games, at the sheer rate of features being removed.

And here's some examples of poor performance of the game in action:

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4, which features STOP MOTION ANIMATION students!

The Day 1 patch has not fixed those said performance issues.
 
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Thiletonomics said:
Just as long as you downloaded Bank (and Transporter, for Gen 5 and VC transfers), yes you can still use Bank after the E-Shop closure.

Going back to the games, apparently GF removed a lot of enterable buildings, as in the Pokémon Centers are just rest stops now. It's now becoming a game of what feature will get removed in the next Pokémon games, at the sheer rate of features being removed.

And here's some examples of poor performance of the game in action:

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4, which features STOP MOTION ANIMATION students!

The Day 1 patch has not fixed those said performance issues.
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oh sweet Jesus I’m getting flashbacks to the 90s.

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Wait... The engine pokemon's pokedex entry says it has 8 cylinders...
It only has six and they look more like exhaust pipes.
Great job designer!
 

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I would really like this to finally kill the "D-day One Patch will fix it guiz" cope that absolutely plagues every discussion of shitty looking games ahead of launch. I know there are some rare instances where the game actually is fixed on launch day, but every single fucking time a game comes out with glaring graphical or gameplay issues in trailers or leaks every fanboy screeches about how it'll definitely be fixed and it almost never is.
 
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