Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Thiletonomics said:
Ash doesn't get Alain'd in his Grand Final match against Leon, and wins it! The episode even had cameo appearances from Ash's old team, i.e. Butterfree, Primeape, Pidgeot, Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Greninja, to name a few, show up.

TPC also posted this result on all of their social media, even spoiling the outcome for English-speaking viewers, which are not on that episode yet.

Japanese Yahoo article about the episode

Ash's win was even broadcasted, as it were a news report.

Unfortunately, we won't get to see Ash salt for him getting fucked over in a Finale, this time.
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The anime really did have this endgame feel going for it. Ash may still be going to the new region anyway, but I just want to know if OLM is going to treat it with more respect than Galar or continue to give the new regions the shaft.
 
More S/V game spoilers below:

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GF appears to have carried over the BDSP (even though it was due to how ILCA programmed that game) and PLA clauses, in regards to movesets.

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So Scald is effectively removed from the game now.
 
Thiletonomics said:
More S/V game spoilers below:

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GF appears to have carried over the BDSP (even though it was due to how ILCA programmed that game) and PLA clauses, in regards to movesets.

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So Scald is effectively removed from the game now.
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What a fucking dick move to make Scald a signature move for a legendary.Well done Game Freak.
 
Gorazul1978 said:
What a fucking dick move to make Scald a signature move for a legendary.Well done Game Freak.
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It also screws over a lot of Event Pokémon with unique moves and Event-only moves. Those include Happy Hour, Hold Back, the M14 Victini with Fusion Flare and Fusion Bolt, and the 15th anniversary Rayquaza with V-Create.
 
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So it looks like Toxic will be a Move Tutor move, but word is going out that it will be limited to Poison-types only, similar to BDSP. And I'm not sure what the cost will be for these Move Tutors, whether it's BP, or some other currency.
 
Thiletonomics said:
More S/V game spoilers below:

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GF appears to have carried over the BDSP (even though it was due to how ILCA programmed that game) and PLA clauses, in regards to movesets.
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Dear God, this is real shitty of them to do. Hopefully enough people learn of this before they transfer over their favs into the game just to find out too late their movesets get fucked.
 
We’ve got more info…
While you can get most species before the post-game, Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant can only be found after. Paradox Pokémon are also in the No Egg Discovered Group alongside most Legendaries and the Ultra Beasts.
They aren’t Shiny Locked so hunting for a Shiny deer, sabertooth cat, snail, and goldfish is possible.
Hyper Training has had its minimum level dropped, you can now Hyper Train Pokémon at Level 50 or higher.

Thiletonomics said:
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So it looks like Toxic will be a Move Tutor move, but word is going out that it will be limited to Poison-types only, similar to BDSP. And I'm not sure what the cost will be for these Move Tutors, whether it's BP, or some other currency.
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SWSH’s Move Tutors were restricted to the DLC outside of Grass/Fire/Water Pledge, the Grass/Fire/Water Hyper Beams, Draco Meteor, and Steel Beam so it’s probably the same case here unless you can breed them onto said ‘mons as well.
Thiletonomics said:
More S/V game spoilers below:

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GF appears to have carried over the BDSP (even though it was due to how ILCA programmed that game) and PLA clauses, in regards to movesets.

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So Scald is effectively removed from the game now.
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To be fair to Scald there’s a Water-type move being introduced in SV that does damage and drops the target’s attack. It’s also worth noting that the loss of Scald is in large part due to Stall ‘mons like Toxapex abusing the shit out of it.

As for the tranfer-induced move loss it’s not that bad in practice. Bulbapedia (yes, I know it’s a site run by a weirdo and is basically maintained by an asylum) has an explanation on how it works.
Depositing any Pokémon into HOME for the first time will assign it a HOME tracker value, a 64-bit number unique to it that is used to detect clones and other hacked Pokémon. (For example, a Pokémon hacked to have a random tracker value can be detected as HOME will not remember having assigned this value in the past.) This tracker value is stored with the Pokémon and stays the same even if (e.g.) the Pokémon is withdrawn and traded offline to another player.

As of v2.0.0, the tracker value is also used to keep track of data that is not transferred between games and must be stored server-side, such as:

  • A Pokémon's three movesets (between Sword and Shield, Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl and Legends: Arceus)
  • Met location and egg hatch location (since none of the three sets of games share location index numbers)
  • Gigantamax Factor, Technical Record flags, Sociability, effort levels, Alpha flag, and Zisu's Move Tutor moves and Move Mastery flags
For example, the Alpha Pokemon flag is not stored anywhere in the Pokémon data of Sword/Shield or Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl. If a Pokémon from Pokémon Legends: Arceus is transferred to one of these games and back, it must keep its Alpha flag. This is done by HOME associating that flag with that Pokémon's HOME tracker value. (The tracker value is also used for the once-per-save-file restriction on newly depositing certain Legendary/Mythical Pokémon from Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. A Pokémon is being newly deposited if it does not have a HOME tracker value.)

Effectively, HOME as of v2.0.0 keeps track of three sets of incompatible data for each Pokémon; however, only one set of data will be displayed when a Pokémon's summary is viewed in HOME. For example, the Legends: Arceus set of data will display significantly different stats and no Ability compared to the other two sets of data (even though the Ability is internally remembered by Legends: Arceus and is not game-specific data). On the Nintendo Switch version, only the Sword/Shield set of data will be displayed for all Pokémon unless the application is currently connected to Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl or Legends: Arceus. The type of Poké Ball shown will change depending on which set of data is being displayed, though the origin mark will always be correct. On the mobile version, the set of data displayed for a Pokémon is picked depending on the last game it was previously in (or Sword/Shield by default if that Pokémon has never been in a Generation VIII game). The type of Poké Ball shown will always be correct.[

If HOME attempts to display (for example) the Sword/Shield set of data for a Pokémon incompatible with Sword/Shield, the results vary depending on version. On the mobile version of HOME, this can only happen if a Pokémon incompatible with Sword/Shield is transferred from Bank or GO, and the app will display the stats and moveset as they last were in Bank (or as determined by GO Transporter). On the Nintendo Switch version before v2.0.0, the application behaved identically to the mobile version. On the Nintendo Switch version from v2.0.0 onward, the app will not display any stats or moves for incompatible Pokémon.
So basically when you deposit a Pokémon into HOME it records the moveset it has in that specific set of games and, if you transfer it to a new set of games, it’ll give the Pokémon its default learnset from that set of games (up to its current level) since there’s no data assigned to that Pokémon for that specific game you’re transferring it to

And yeah, it sucks that certain Event Pokémon will lose any non-standard attacks they may have but we’ve seen how nasty some Pokémon can get if they’re allowed to keep their Event moves.
 
I think they end not making designs that are close to well-spread fakemon, and that covers A LOT of cool things. Probably anything in Nintendo-C&D'd games is in "do not copy by accident!" list.
 
All of the Pokédex artwork has been compiled, so if you wanted a better look at any of the new Pokémon, this is a good opportunity: https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/180Qp0wrGEwomjoU78vFMDJTEkI42Bmql?usp=sharing

Personally, I'm happy to finally see Glimmora in full.
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EDIT: It's my lucky day, apparently. It looks even cooler in motion than I was imagining.

Also...
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CausticMinory said:
I came back just to point out its kinda shifty that scald is volcanion's signature move now.. when it already has Steam Eruption.
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Toxapex used Scald!
Those three words are why they limited Scald. Never mind that VGC is only in doubles.
Also, the joke about Rock Head Aerodactyl getting no recoil moves besides Take Down will continue. Imagine spending a lot of time breeding a pokemon only to have it get nerfed into the dirt by that transfer. I can understand limiting event moves, but someone that bred something from RSE should be able to transfer it to SV unmolested.
 
Thiletonomics said:
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Until now, I didn't know that China actually banned time travel themes in media, but given how it can be used (i.e. someone going to the past to witness the Great Leap Forward, the Chinese Cultural Revolution, and the Tiannemen Square Massacre), I can see why the CCP would ban that.
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I am still pretty surprised by the fac that 21 and Over got a different starting and ending in Red China!
 
I just came here to say that I just realized Galarian Mr. Mime makes me think of goddamn Binky the Clown and I cannot unsee it.
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