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Nimbat Out Of Hell said:
Partner finally got a new GPU that can actually play PoE. Looks like an aurabot is back on the menu, boys.
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Funny that you mention this, as I was just wondering what kind of hardware this game actually needs to run somewhat smoothly. I'm not saying 4k 180fps max details, but holy shit, I have a 5600 + 9060XT and Delirium is enough to tank my fps, while blighted maps are almost impossible to run and survive as it often dips in the single digits fps, even with lowest settings possible (FSR max performance or NIS 50%, low/medium details). Is this normal or a me problem?

Anyway, league is not the best ever but I'm making good currency, and drops are being kind to me overall, so I'm happy
 
Gamer (not racist) said:
Funny that you mention this, as I was just wondering what kind of hardware this game actually needs to run somewhat smoothly. I'm not saying 4k 180fps max details, but holy shit, I have a 5600 + 9060XT and Delirium is enough to tank my fps, while blighted maps are almost impossible to run and survive as it often dips in the single digits fps, even with lowest settings possible (FSR max performance or NIS 50%, low/medium details). Is this normal or a me problem?

Anyway, league is not the best ever but I'm making good currency, and drops are being kind to me overall, so I'm happy
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It's not really something anyone can give a straight answer on. Things I know do help way more than people give them credit for are having more RAM and running on an M2 SSD that isn't nearly full. The skill you play also matters so god damn much. Especially in Blight, you need to really nuke the enemies ASAP or they stack up and then the game slows to a crawl because of how many enemies it has to calculate. It's a fun league mechanic but the performance is definitely an issue if you don't have corpse explosions.

For a little bit of context, I use a 4060, with 32gb RAM and running off an M2 SSD, and the game runs mostly smooth for me. However, I choose to eat the frame loss and I disabled upscaling completely. For most gameplay I can maintain 60fps as long as I'm not playing anything silly like Spark + Celestial Herald of Ice with all the speed and projectile count bonuses possible. But playing anything like Delirium + Beyond is just always gonna run like shit. I don't think there's a system on earth that can play maps like that at a steady framerate.

Back in Affliction, I played a Kinetic Blast Deadeye with Headhunter that could run 100% Deli + Beyond + Breach, and the frame rate was so bad you just right click and pray.
 
Gamer (not racist) said:
I have a 5600 + 9060XT and Delirium is enough to tank my fps, while blighted maps are almost impossible to run and survive as it often dips in the single digits fps
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Your CPU is poopy and POE is a notorious CPU rapist. Whatever graphics you set it to will barely matter in this situation. Avoid projectile and DoT spam builds and it'll chug a bit less. Don't crank the mob density in maps. Close off any background programs, especially web browsers.
 
Nimbat Out Of Hell said:
It's not really something anyone can give a straight answer on. Things I know do help way more than people give them credit for are having more RAM and running on an M2 SSD that isn't nearly full. The skill you play also matters so god damn much. Especially in Blight, you need to really nuke the enemies ASAP or they stack up and then the game slows to a crawl because of how many enemies it has to calculate. It's a fun league mechanic but the performance is definitely an issue if you don't have corpse explosions.

For a little bit of context, I use a 4060, with 32gb RAM and running off an M2 SSD, and the game runs mostly smooth for me. However, I choose to eat the frame loss and I disabled upscaling completely. For most gameplay I can maintain 60fps as long as I'm not playing anything silly like Spark + Celestial Herald of Ice with all the speed and projectile count bonuses possible. But playing anything like Delirium + Beyond is just always gonna run like shit. I don't think there's a system on earth that can play maps like that at a steady framerate.

Back in Affliction, I played a Kinetic Blast Deadeye with Headhunter that could run 100% Deli + Beyond + Breach, and the frame rate was so bad you just right click and pray.
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Well, that does make me feel a little better! I only have 16GB of RAM, but have 20% free m2. You're right, though, and I completely forgot about the skill I'm using, which is VD/Desecrate (which should consume enough corpses in Blight) triggered off of Frenzy and I do make a lot of fire balls and projectiles despite not having amazing DPS, so monsters in blighted maps often pile up (alive).

CPU is definitely the bottleneck though, since I see little difference between FSR max performance and quality.

lol at the KB combo. I do that in Blighted maps sometimes, lowest I see is 4-5 fps

estacks said:
Your CPU is poopy and POE is a notorious CPU rapist. Whatever graphics you set it to will barely matter in this situation. Avoid projectile and DoT spam builds and it'll chug a bit less. Don't crank the mob density in maps. Close off any background programs, especially web browsers.
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Yes, I was just reaching the same conclusion while replying to Nimbat. I think I'll have to look for a better CPU, which I hadn't considered yet because I haven't played PoE in a few years and only recently started again. Plus, I'm playing VD triggered off of Frenzy, which does spawn a good amount of projectiles, and that doesn't help
 
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Gamer (not racist) said:
You're right, though, and I completely forgot about the skill I'm using, which is VD/Desecrate (which should consume enough corpses in Blight) triggered off of Frenzy and I do make a lot of fire balls and projectiles despite not having amazing DPS, so monsters in blighted maps often pile up (alive).
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Sorry, I meant that you want stuff that blows up enemies, not removing corpses specifically. Stuff like Inpulsa's Broken Heart, Chieftain corpse explosion with 100% ignite chance, even Herald of Ice, and so on. The big issue with Blight is that it throws hundreds or thousands of monsters at you at once, which really slows the game down a lot if you're having to kill them all individually. Being able to blow them up to deal HP% damage helps thin the herd a lot and makes a noticeable difference in your frame rate.

For what it's worth, my CPU is also my bottleneck, usually sitting at close to 1.5x the response time of my GPU when I press F1 generally.
 
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Nimbat Out Of Hell said:
Sorry, I meant that you want stuff that blows up enemies, not removing corpses specifically. Stuff like Inpulsa's Broken Heart, Chieftain corpse explosion with 100% ignite chance, even Herald of Ice, and so on. The big issue with Blight is that it throws hundreds or thousands of monsters at you at once, which really slows the game down a lot if you're having to kill them all individually. Being able to blow them up to deal HP% damage helps thin the herd a lot and makes a noticeable difference in your frame rate.

For what it's worth, my CPU is also my bottleneck, usually sitting at close to 1.5x the response time of my GPU when I press F1 generally.
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Oh, I get it now. I guess I can try to slot an Inpulsa and see how it goes, though that would nuke my survivability. Thanks for the tip! edit: PoB says I'd lose 20k EHP which isn't little. I guess survivability hasn't been too much of an issue in Blighted maps and I can give it a try. Worst case scenario I wear the Inpulsa only for Blighted and not normal mapping, if I feel a lot more squishy

Same here, but my CPU takes up to 5x what it takes my GPU some times, even with less aggressive FSR. Time to start looking for an upgrade I guess, somewhat juiced maps are a nightmare to run like this
 
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Gamer (not racist) said:
Oh, I get it now. I guess I can try to slot an Inpulsa and see how it goes, though that would nuke my survivability. Thanks for the tip! edit: PoB says I'd lose 20k EHP which isn't little. I guess survivability hasn't been too much of an issue in Blighted maps and I can give it a try. Worst case scenario I wear the Inpulsa only for Blighted and not normal mapping, if I feel a lot more squishy

Same here, but my CPU takes up to 5x what it takes my GPU some times, even with less aggressive FSR. Time to start looking for an upgrade I guess, somewhat juiced maps are a nightmare to run like this
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Inpulsa was just a generic example, since I have no idea what your exact build is (besides VD). If you make a https://pobb.in/ link for your current POB then we can take a look for better ideas.
 
Nimbat Out Of Hell said:
Inpulsa was just a generic example, since I have no idea what your exact build is (besides VD). If you make a https://pobb.in/ link for your current POB then we can take a look for better ideas.
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Thanks, Inpulsa actually works great, since I shock: I'm VD Ele with Shaper of Storms allocated! The ES and Life hit is considerable compared to a rare body armor, but it's still manageable.

Here's the pobb, though: https://pobb.in/XBMYOSYYXsOM

I appreciate the help!
 
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One thing you can do if your PC is struggling is go look up how to disable game sounds in the config files. Some stuff has notoriously horrible impact on performance, corpse explodey business being one of those things. I think disabling main game sounds also disables loot filter sound, one of them does at least, but other than that disable as much as possible. Give it a try and see if it helps at all.
 
Disguised In Cognito said:
One thing you can do if your PC is struggling is go look up how to disable game sounds in the config files. Some stuff has notoriously horrible impact on performance, corpse explodey business being one of those things. I think disabling main game sounds also disables loot filter sound, one of them does at least, but other than that disable as much as possible. Give it a try and see if it helps at all.
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This is why I never play POE with the sound on unless it's my first time meeting an NPC or doing a boss fight. If you are playing any build with a modicum of cast or attack speed or triggers a lot of spells, the audio's gonna break eventually anyway.

I have filters with custom LowTierGod soundbites as filter tinks but I have to make do without them because I'd rather the game run well while mapping.
 
Gamer (not racist) said:
Thanks, Inpulsa actually works great, since I shock: I'm VD Ele with Shaper of Storms allocated! The ES and Life hit is considerable compared to a rare body armor, but it's still manageable.

Here's the pobb, though: https://pobb.in/XBMYOSYYXsOM

I appreciate the help!
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A little late, but as you're playing an Elementalist, Inpulsa's Broken Heart is a good option. You have guaranteed shock, which means every enemy you kill is guaranteed to explode for 5% of their max HP as a random element. So long as you aren't giving up something extremely important for your build, it's what I would go with. I do have some questions about your build, like the lack of flasks lol
 
Nimbat Out Of Hell said:
A little late, but as you're playing an Elementalist, Inpulsa's Broken Heart is a good option. You have guaranteed shock, which means every enemy you kill is guaranteed to explode for 5% of their max HP as a random element. So long as you aren't giving up something extremely important for your build, it's what I would go with. I do have some questions about your build, like the lack of flasks lol
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Ended up buying a Inpulsa and clear is much better, the loss of life and ES compared to my previous body armor isn't too big a problem so I'm sticking with it

I do have flasks but I mainly used pob to find ways to increase damage and survivability (and a better pathing on tree), and that's the only flask that has an impact in this sense, since my other ones are life, mana, quicksilver and phasing flasks. didn't bother adding them to the pob. what else makes you scratch your head?
 
I got boned. I went from having a 90% XP bar at level 96 to hitting level 98 just running Defiled Cathedrals trying to get Nameless Seer and scry the map's cards. And guess what? Still no seer.
 
Tommy John Surgery said:
running Defiled Cathedrals trying to get Nameless Seer
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That is a shit map to scry, don't do it. It's never going to drop (as there's no space in atlas strategies to juice up div cards), and even if you get one apo to drop in 500 maps from now you then have to compare it with the value of all the other cards you could have dropped instead, and dropped them much earlier (lower inflation + snowball effect from having the currency earlier). Scrying a map with only one good but very rare card is a dented-head, dopamine addict play where you lower your income for one potential dopamine hit.

Not playing this league, but I remember Ivory Temple being good reliable extra income, there was one or two other decent choice (Basilica?) but I'm not sure I remember properly.

Anyway, you want to fill your map device with all the scarabs giving additional packs of X mobs, as killing all monsters of a kind is what spawn the seer.
 
Nimbat Out Of Hell said:
A little late, but as you're playing an Elementalist, Inpulsa's Broken Heart is a good option. You have guaranteed shock, which means every enemy you kill is guaranteed to explode for 5% of their max HP as a random element. So long as you aren't giving up something extremely important for your build, it's what I would go with. I do have some questions about your build, like the lack of flasks lol
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Just in case you were planning on helping with that build: don't, it's not necessary anymore (I respecced half of the tree and changed everything except for ascendancy), but thank you nonetheless!

I wasn't really feeling VD even though last time I played it dual Poet's Pen was the BiS equip (i.e. a few years ago). Oh well!
 
Nimbat Out Of Hell said:
One of my strongest builds (in terms of power vs current meta) was a similar build. Mana stacking Heirophant with Indigon + Poet's Pen. Those were good times.
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I played it low life with Shavronne's Wrappings, I really liked it and loved Poet's Pen

Now I'm playing with the new Foulborn Doedre's Scorn (Impending Doom) and mapping is a breeze (bossing a bit less), though VD was much quicker at clearing Hive Fortresses even with lower DPS thanks to the balls homing in on the waves, while now I have to wait for them to at least get close to the borders of my screen... not that I've had much luck with Breach this league
 
I think I'll skip the next PoE2 league. I have a nagging feeling we'll be infested with a lot of furries and global will become an even more cesspool then it already is.
 
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