One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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Kari Kamiya said:
>mental health reasons

Sure, Jan.
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What other reasons could there be?

6MillionCoofs said:
I mean, I’d buy it. Can’t be easy working on this. And he’s already done it for years. Eventually the shit you deal with builds up.
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I’m pretty sure that trying to figure out how to bring a story as long and ambitious as One Piece on a Netflix budget has to do a number on you. And then you have to take into account everything you do needs Oda’s stamp of approval.
 
Random Internet Person said:
What other reasons could there be?


I’m pretty sure that trying to figure out how to bring a story as long and ambitious as One Piece on a Netflix budget has to do a number on you. And then you have to take into account everything you do needs Oda’s stamp of approval.
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Yeah. It’s a lot of work. And then you’ve got to deal with OP insane fans. And then you’ve got to juggle private life. And he’s been doing it for 6 years.

6 years to do 2 Seasons of a show that is probably going to take 14 seasons to do.

Realising there is no way the series is even tenable at current requirements and scope would fuck me up to.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
6 years to do 2 Seasons of a show that is probably going to take 14 seasons to do.
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14 seasons may be conservative. As I said before, I think practically every arc after Alabasta may warrant a season dedicated to itself, and that’s just considering the aspects centering around Luffy.

And then you have to consider that Oda has done things where one small thing affects several bigger things, and he wants thing to click at a VERY specific time, and not a minute too soon. And may God have mercy on anybody who lets a spoiler get loose (at least that’s what I’m assuming.)
 
Random Internet Person said:
14 seasons may be conservative.
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It is conservative. You could do it. But that’s the thing. It’s 14 at a minimum at the current pace with just the imporant bits.

That’s decades of time. That’s stupid and absurd. 6 years is already hard enough.

Hopefully it’s just a break for health reasons and he comes back but even if it is just an honest break for health I do not see him coming back when he gets better. It was clearly taking too much of a toll on him.

Funny when you consider the anime just had several months of break for the first time ever so they did not have to filler and would not have to kill their staff anymore.

Dude is burnt out or crossed people he should not have crossed or both.
 
Ainchiemi said:
The one piece LA is shit. And Matt owens is shit. That's the only two things we should be talking about. It's the reason why we have tourist factors in the scene so fuck it.
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Any thing gets Tourists when it actually gets put out to a wider audiance. And it has nothing to do with the Tourists. If anything Covid did because it finally gave everyone chance to catch up and Oda announcing Final Saga.

If anything the people OPLA got in are far less insufferable.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
Any thing gets Tourists when it actually gets put out to a wider audiance. And it has nothing to do with the Tourists. If anything Covid did because it finally gave everyone chance to catch up and Oda announcing Final Saga.

If anything the people OPLA got in are far less insufferable.
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Misspoke. But the china -virusers and la noobs are the same to me.
 
Ainchiemi said:
The one piece LA is shit.
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One Piece live action is Jump getting a glorified stage show that Netflix pays to create. Including, I suspect, the Japanese voice actors so Oda can have the version he considers tolerable.

That they have taken it a step further and can do licensing deals with Lego and others for the live action One Piece but not the real one is icing on the cake for Jump.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
It is conservative. You could do it. But that’s the thing. It’s 14 at a minimum at the current pace with just the imporant bits.

That’s decades of time. That’s stupid and absurd. 6 years is already hard enough.

Hopefully it’s just a break for health reasons and he comes back but even if it is just an honest break for health I do not see him coming back when he gets better. It was clearly taking too much of a toll on him.

Funny when you consider the anime just had several months of break for the first time ever so they did not have to filler and would not have to kill their staff anymore.

Dude is burnt out or crossed people he should not have crossed or both.
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I’ve said it before but it bears repeating: This first season was probably the simplest of One Piece’s story before the timeskip.

To my knowledge, these were all the major changes season 1 did (feel free to add any I missed):

-The barrel scene (it originally happened after Loguetown and before Reverse Mountain)
-The subplot of Coby and Helmeppo being Marines (granted, that was just a cover story so whatever)
-the reveal of Garp being Luffy’s grandfather
-I’m not too sure about when Shanks got Luffy’s wanted poster, but that was made to be a big point in the season
-the plot point of Nami stealing the Going Merry to go to Arlong Park was scrapped (honestly, I forget how the Going Merry scenario plays out in the manga, but I remember the big part of the finale being when the sail with Luffy’s Jolly Roger is lowered.

Any other changes were for practicality (Zoro doesn’t have that many scenes where he fights with his sword in his mouth) or character related (Nami doesn’t steal the Going Merry, instead sticking around for when Zoro makes his vow to never lose again. Also, Kuina’s death isn’t expanded on so it isn’t a fall down the stairs or having her shit wrecked by a sore loser or several.)

All that to say…it took two years for Netflix to finish One Piece AT ITS MOST SIMPLE.

From here, it’s more VFX/CGI to take into account more ridiculous character designs and devil fruit powers (Alvida could just be her actress dedicating herself to getting the look right, maybe losing some weight. Beyond that? Good luck.), not to mention you have characters like Whitebeard who’s made to be an ABSOLUTE UNIT that can make the likes of Brock Lesnar, Scott Steiner, Bron Breakker, Samoa Joe, and Braun Strowman look a runt littler of Yorkshire terriers , chow chows, corgis, and chihuahuas. (You gonna just shoot him at an upward angle enough so you don’t get his crotch?)

Then you got folks like Bon Clay and Ivankov who are SUPPOSED to be chewing as much scenery as they can by design, and from all the talk that Sanji had his simping toned down where it’s just hitting on female characters that are less than impressed, get ready for heart eyes, nosebleeds, and spending two whole years running away from cross dressers , later calling that time Hell. Also, you got his code of chivalry that it’s argued could get him killed, but that ain’t the biggest hurdle to jump over.

And then you have all the worldbuilding that doesn’t get payoff until much later, much less introduced. Not to mention that last I checked, any changes no matter how practical, like having Garp go after Luffy after episode 1 to drive home that Luffy is a wanted criminal. (I also would not be surprised if it comes out that Oda told the writers, “Hey so I’ve heard folks speculate that the treasure is the friends Luffy made along the way or some bullshit like that. Add a scene where it’s explained that line of thinking is completely false.” I just think it’d be pretty funny.)

Whoever takes the mantle has their work cut out for them. Good luck. You’re gonna need it.
 
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I don't think Netflix ever had the intention to adapt the entire series in the live action show. Certainly not at the pace of 1 season every 2-3 years. If they did, they wouldn't be paying for the Wit Studio remake.
 
A lot of people will not watch a cartoon no matter what you tell them, so in a sense, to reach a wider audience, going live-action is the way to do it. Not everything translates well to live-action, however, and the same still holds true here in spite of the VFX artists' best efforts, and yet so many Netflix normies ate it up anyway because it's live-action.

If it wasn't for this, One Piece might not have been on the Vegas Sphere when it did. Doesn't matter the Gear 5/Egghead hype at the time, doesn't matter it's the best-selling manga of all time, more eyes needed to be on One Piece somehow or another for that to work, and for a Macy's Thanksgiving Parade float. Oda I think is aware of this from his travels, that's why he approved a live-action adaptation (as long as he was involved).
 
if matt owens is dead then who will stop netflix from achieving their goal of filling the live action one piece with homosexual imagery

we already lost koby (and that was under that fucker's watch, too), what if they turn baroque works into a gay pride parade at whiskey peak
 
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