Official Kiwifarms Based Christianity Thread

[Stan]

It contextualizes your nonsensical rants

What reason do you have that women shouldn’t be in the pulpit? Besides Catholic tautology; I mean.

Also when’s the last time YOU took Communion? When did you last go to church? C&E Christians are as bad as armchair quarterbacks.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Why does my sex matter so much to people who disagree with me, eh?


Better an Episcopalian Heretic than a papist goon. Anyway, when did both of you last go to Mass? March 2023 for Easter??? Lmao you’re larping as inquisitors and hardliners, but I question your basic practice.

Last week you fucking retard, and the week before that, and the week before that, along with this Sunday, and so forth and so before, until I finally die, get out nigger.

 

[Stan]

Last week you fucking retard, and the week before that, and the week before that, along with this Sunday, and so forth and so before, until I finally die, get out nigger.

Good for you!! Now, try to learn something from church when you go tomorrow. Like actually pay attention to the sermon and credo instead of ruminating on how you hate Protestants.

If you ask nicely they may even let you attend remedial Sunday school so you can learn how to be nice to other people, tolerant of differences, and interested in making the world a better place, as Jesus teaches all Christians to do.

As for me leaving this thread… no.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Good for you!! Now, try to learn something from church. Like actually pay attention to the sermon and credo instead of ruminating on how you hate Protestants.

I don't even "hate" protestants, I just hate hypocrisy, just as much as how most people on this site don't truly "hate" most niggers and most of your fellow kikes. Its also quite ironic considering your clear seething hatred of Catholicism despite how a grand majority of us aren't just little clones of our heretic pope, learn some nuance for once in your life.

 

[Stan]

I don't even "hate" protestants, I just hate hypocrisy, just as much as how most people on this site don't truly "hate" most niggers and most of your fellow kikes. Its also quite ironic considering your clear seething hatred of Catholicism despite how a grand majority of us aren't just little clones of our heretic pope, learn some nuance for once in your life.

I’m seriously honestly not a Jew, so that becomes funnier and funnier every time someone says I am. I’m an Episcopalian. I have some history and admiration for the Jews but I have been sternly advised by other Jews that I am not Jewish.

I mistrust Catholics for very good reasons. Their priestly class are hypocrite faggots who preach a doctrine of homophobia, they’re plagued with sex scandals, and there’s dead naked Jesus images everywhere in the worship space.

Maybe you should get your facts straight?

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I’m seriously honestly not a Jew, so that becomes funnier and funnier every time someone says I am. I’m an Episcopalian.

I mistrust Catholics for very good reasons. Their priestly class are hypocrite faggots who preach a doctrine of homophobia, they’re plagued with sex scandals, and there’s dead naked Jesus images everywhere in the worship space.

Maybe you should get your facts straight?

I myself don't trust much of our clergy, considering what our current pope is tolerating and who our city cardinal is, however that doesn't change the fact that the original foundations of our faith, i.e., what's actually said in the bible, are still rock solid, and nigger, just cut the jew thing from your subtitle, it will go a long way with people not mistaking you for one.

 

[Stan]

I myself don't trust much of our clergy, considering what our current pope is tolerating and who our city cardinal is, however that doesn't change the fact that the original foundations of our faith, i.e., what's actually said in the bible, are still rock solid, and nigger, just cut the jew thing from your subtitle, it will go a long way with people not mistaking you for one.

I don’t mind, like I said I find it amusing. I’m also white btw

Sounds like you don’t like the Catholic Church liberalizing any of its policies. So I assume you prefer your Mass read in Latin? That would explain why you have no idea what the message of the Gospels are despite your “rock solid” belief in the Bible. (Ugh btw faith is not “believing in” the Bible. The Bible exists without you needing to believe it does. Faith is when you trust the Holy Spirit to guide you when your path is scary and uncertain. So believing in the Bible is like sitting in a comfy bed, and having faith is like skydiving from a plane because you have faith that your parachute works.)

Are you one of those Leviticus Christians? The ones who quote Jewish law as absolute hardcore tenets of the faith when it’s convenient to do that, but also eats shrimp and pork and thinks it’s fine?

Rebbe Avi taught me once that you can’t just feed the Bible through the fine plate on a meat grinder and only sample the verses you like. So if you like Leviticus cause it says to stone the gays, you also have to accept kosher law and family purity and ALL the rest of it.

Likewise, I’m telling you that you are misusing the Word of you just take the shiny bits you like and use them to line your ideological nest like a magpie. The Gospel teaches us that the whole summary of the law is to love God and to love our neighbors as ourselves. The Gospel also has this “New Covenant” in it, which supersedes the old Rabbinic Laws, which is why you don’t observe them anymore. So I find paging back to Lev and saying “no look, look at this, we need to stone gays to death” amounts to cherry-picking.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Jesus caught his arm in the wood chipper. After that, he did not finish the landscaping so I had him deported.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

So I see Stan that your too much of a pussy to let me reply again, but for the record, no I do not attend latin mass nor read a latin version of The Bible, how old are you by the way? Because some of your ratings on my posts, like an islamic content just for suggesting you cut the jew thing from your subtitle, or a dumb rating just for stating why I'm not actually that hateful, compared to many of the ragecows on this site, tells me your either a misguided "saved" teenager, a misguided "saved" millenial, or a really elaborate troll. I also disagree with supposedly Catholic things such as animals not making it to Heaven, or all protestants automatically going to Hell, both of which, even as a Catholic, I find completely fucking ridiculous and an obvious aspect of humanocentric corruption within the church since Jesus and the original apostles departure.

 

[The Third Wright Brother]

. I also disagree with supposedly Catholic things such as animals not making it to Heaven, or all protestants automatically going to Hell,

These aren't even things that you have to believe in as a Catholic. There's a certain amount of leeway given to each believer in the Church because these issues are so multifaceted that one man cannot have an answer to all the objections brought to one of these assertions.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

These aren't even things that you have to believe in as a Catholic. There's a certain amount of leeway given to each believer in the Church because these issues are so multifaceted that one man cannot have an answer to all the objections brought to one of these assertions.

Thanks, it's just that there are some catholics who get extremely preachy and annoying about it while trying to claim that they're just being good little true and honest tradcaths.

 

[The Third Wright Brother]

Thanks, it's just that there are some catholics who get extremely preachy and annoying about it while trying to claim that they're just being good little true and honest tradcaths.

I know the feeling. One of the most beautiful aspects of our faith is just how many different forms piety and holiness can take. It really hammers in the ubiquitous nature of it. Some might be called to serve the poor. Others think that God is something to be deeply thought upon their whole lives. And many think that an interaction with God is a mystical experience that can only be truly understood in the depth of His love. I guess you could say I'm just enthralled with the litany of forms devotion to God can take. I'll be praying for you. Stay Holy!!! ✞

 

[Evan-Wynn-D]

I consider myself deeply religious. I consider myself a devout Catholic. It doesn't mean I'm not open to the concept of the "atheist faith," just that I don't think it's any less important than the other religions, so much as it's not inherently more important. I am a gay man, but also a highly - educated professional. I don't think I need to be Catholic to be deeply spiritual, so I'm comfortable leaving it out.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Despite being Catholic, I do admittedly believe that ALL animals go to Heaven, as they have souls, but no higher thought process stopping them from doing what they're biologically programmed to do. I also do not believe that all protestants go to Hell, for that is complete bullshit superiority complex stuff clearly made up by some of the later church oligarchs. I also believe that yes, you can die from the paranormal, say if one of these demons hits you hard enough in the temple, or scratches an already open wound, or suffocates you, etc. Those are just some views on the topic though, feel free to debate.

 

[ChaosReignsOnSomeSaturday]

I recently watched the Wendigoon video on the game Faith and it really contextualized something for me. For a long time I've lived my life by the motto/saying, "God helps those who help themselves." Meaning I held my faith in the Man up Stairs but I didn't ask him for anything instead wanting to rely on my own strength and will to get through life. I also felt like one less person asking for something might help since it's probably a bit annoying getting prayers for everything from everyone all the time lol.

"God does not fix people's problems by taking them from them, but instead He makes them strong enough to take their problems on their own."

So in a way I was right to go through life as I have been, and maybe the old saying of "God doesn't give you problems you can't overcome," is true. But at the same time my way of thinking was flawed as I thought I was always doing it completely on my own, but really it's me bolstered by the Grace of the Almighty.

 

[Terffals]

 

[bliblblblbbllb]

Despite being Catholic, I do admittedly believe that ALL animals go to Heaven, as they have souls, but no higher thought process stopping them from doing what they're biologically programmed to do. I also do not believe that all protestants go to Hell, for that is complete bullshit superiority complex stuff clearly made up by some of the later church oligarchs. I also believe that yes, you can die from the paranormal, say if one of these demons hits you hard enough in the temple, or scratches an already open wound, or suffocates you, etc. Those are just some views on the topic though, feel free to debate.

There was an essay- I can't find it right now but I'll try to link it if I can. It was about "will we have things in heaven?" Like if you're a car guy, will there be cars to repair in heaven? Will it still be fun to drive on a race track if there's no danger or fear of death?

At the end of the day I think souls, heaven, Christianity is a thing for humanity, not other animals, or at least that's as far as my scope and understanding goes. But if animals don't have souls, it makes it even simpler IMO. We'll all be happy in heaven and have whatever we need to be happy, and people's pets make them happy.

If you say "animals have souls and go to heaven" then you get into a weird territory- are they going to resurrect in the end times? Are they saved? Is every single ant going to come back to life? I find that pretty absurd. Animals are earthly physical things, but the bible speaks about mansions and roads of gold, so it's clear that heaven does have physical things in it. I don't see any reason animals wouldn't be a part of that, being a part of the natural world.

Animals don't have souls, but are present in heaven, and there's no reason to ever feel sad that something is going to be missing in heaven, because heaven, by its actual nature, has everything that will make you happy and nothing that would make it better is missing.

It's pretty easy to get into mind games, "Well how can there be good without the bad?" or "How can we have things without conflicts?" but heaven is different than the earthly living realm and I generally find arguments like that to be in pretty bad faith. When people just start going "Seems like heaven would be torturous! What if I LIKE conflict and fighting? Am I really going to be FORCED to sing praises for the rest of eternity? Doesn't sound like heaven to me! Sounds like all the fun people to go Hell anyways!", I don't even bother.

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To me, it would be a pretty interesting theological question if a Star-Trek-like alien race appeared, if people would want to share the gospel with them or not, or if churches would accept aliens that did want to join them. I haven't really found much sci-fi on this topic although some parts of Deep Space Nine address roughly similar topics. Did Jesus die for alien species? Is salvation for them? Are they burdened by original sin, subject to God's commandments, things like that? You can easily say, "Well God created everything so yes," but God also created the birds and fish and seas, and those things are spoken of as being just, you know, their own things, that aren't involved in needing to have Christian morals and religion. Specifically, the lilies grow by themselves, the birds naturally forage and the cycle of life takes place. If intelligent aliens existed, I think I would tend to think that it's kinda like that, they're just another part of the natural world, and they don't really need to all convert to Christianity. But if the aliens themselves wanted to become Christian? Heck I don't know.

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So in a way I was right to go through life as I have been, and maybe the old saying of "God doesn't give you problems you can't overcome," is true. But at the same time my way of thinking was flawed as I thought I was always doing it completely on my own, but really it's me bolstered by the Grace of the Almighty.

God doesn't give us what we can handle. God helps us handle what we are given.

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gospel posting commences:

I remember the days when I was bent low with the burdens of sin and strife
Then Jesus came in and rescued me and gave me a brand new life.
Now as I thank Him day after day for washing my sins away,
It seems I can almost hear the Voice of the Blessed Savior say.

What sins are you talking about
I don’t remember them anymore.
From the book of life they’ve all been torn out
I don’t remember them anymore.

When the flesh becomes weak, it’s then I can speak to the Savior who’s with me each day.
“oh, Father, forgive me, hear my plea,” and He washes my sins away.
Each time that I bow to give Him thanks for removing my guilt and shame.
He cannot recall what I’m talking about for His answer is always the same.

I used to feel guilty about all the years I spent as an atheist and all the cringe-worthy things I did, and this song has been a good comfort to me.

Several versions:
female main voice:

male voices:

male quartet, part of an album:

 

[Jewthulhu]

It's pretty easy to get into mind games, "Well how can there be good without the bad?" or "How can we have things without conflicts?" but heaven is different than the earthly living realm and I generally find arguments like that to be in pretty bad faith. When people just start going "Seems like heaven would be torturous! What if I LIKE conflict and fighting? Am I really going to be FORCED to sing praises for the rest of eternity? Doesn't sound like heaven to me! Sounds like all the fun people to go Hell anyways!", I don't even bother.

A lot of that feels like a consequence of trying to conceptualize the unconceptualizable. The fullness of God and heaven exists outside of our limited physical experience, and thus outside of our conception. The experience of heaven is a mystery; we know only that it is the eternal and full presence of God, and is thus good.

Actually, that's a common issue I have with a lot of anti-religious or even some apologetic arguments. People try to bring something that is by its nature non-physical and inconceivable into physical, conceptual reality. It misrepresents the mystery of God to the point where it's basically a strawman.

 

[bliblblblbbllb]

Gospel posting:
I found this song lately and I enjoy the theme. I really like gospel songs with a strong image to them. It's one thing imo that separates good gospel music from the pop christian songs that croon on, "I love Youuuuu I love Jesus makes me strong all day long, I sing about it, in this song, oh oh oh oh".

Once again you will have compassion on us. You will trample our sins under your feet and throw them into the depths of the ocean!
-Micah 7:19 NLT

He has removed our sins as far from us as the east is from the west.
-Psalms 103:12 NLT

Lyrics:

1. Man has climbed every mountain, no matter how high
He has conquered the planets from sky to sky
But there is a place where man has not been
And that's where my Lord says He's buried my sin

(Chorus)
In the depths of the sea of God's forgetfulness
Removed as east is from west
Far away from all power and principality
My sins are in the depths of the sea

2. Gone are the shackles, gone are the stains
I'm free from the bondage, free from the chains
My sins are separated as darkness from dawn
Praise God, I'm forgiven, my sins are all gone

Repeat Chorus

(Tag)
Far away from all power and principality
My sins are in the depths of the sea
My sins are in the depths of the sea

Local:

And an article explaining the phrase "sea of forgetfulness", which is not itself in Scripture
https://www.gotquestions.org/sea-of-forgetfulness.html (archive)

bonus song:

He Saw What I Could Be · Favorite A Cappella Classics Performers

 

[Whatevermancer]

Howard Lovecraft was right about God.