Mount & Blade : Bannerlord - Tis' almost harvesting season!

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ksivy said:
That, and the fact that they "won't drop the conventions" of faulty codding practices even though it'd make them a ton o money is baffling to me.
Sure, that would take time, but it would be a step in the right direction towards making everyone happy.
Of course all that said assuming that the community worries about them just wanting to pull some nefarious financial scheme are unfounded. A DLC, no matter how amazing can only be played so many times, while total-conversion mods (and mods in general) would be popping up like shrooms after a rainy day if they loosened up their code to accommodate people who want to work on their game for free.
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I wonder if there's an industry-wide attitude that you're supposed to play a game/DLC for 30 hours and move on to consoom new product, just like most single-player AAA titles. Because most of TW's work has gone into making the early and mid-game fun, and then things unravel in the late game.

For example, field battles are amazing until you go over the battle size cap, and then you have to deal with reinforcements spawning in. The defending AI will always camp near or behind its own spawn point, so you'll be charging in on your mount and suddenly a spearman warps in and stops you dead in your tracks, then his buddies all beat you down in 1 second. Meanwhile your men will spawn in from the other side of the map. Sometimes you can bait the AI into pushing towards the centre but it's a crapshoot. Warband had this too but you could just snipe the general and then the enemy would mindlessly charge. Also high end armour prices are even more absurd than Warband (e.g. 200k for the same helm that every Imperial Legionary wears, for reference 10 pounds of grain goes for 10), at least full plate and winged great helmets weren't worn by generic troops and only the Lordly variants had equivalently high costs, and were far more effective.
 
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Jarolleon said:
Also high end armour prices are even more absurd than Warband (e.g. 200k for the same helm that every Imperial Legionary wears, for reference 10 pounds of grain goes for 10), at least full plate and winged great helmets weren't worn by generic troops and only the Lordly variants had equivalently high costs, and were far more effective.
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This drives me absolutely bonkers, I can understand a good set taking a chunk of change or lord-tier stuff but simply buying tier 3-4 armor can cost you huge amounts of money. The comparatively tiny cost of food or many important goods means you can feed your army cheaply but a good number of villages will provide little of value to you eitehr as its lord or a raider.

In my experience early to mid game you were hoping for a good drop from a battle or still beating your way through tourneys to sell off the random piece of inflated-cost gear if you aren't abusing the ability to smith super cheap weapons. That's assuming that still works as its been well over 6+ months since I've played the game. Not that it seems to have had any huge overhauls in the meanwhile.
 
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This drives me absolutely bonkers, I can understand a good set taking a chunk of change or lord-tier stuff but simply buying tier 3-4 armor can cost you huge amounts of money. The comparatively tiny cost of food or many important goods means you can feed your army cheaply but a good number of villages will provide little of value to you eitehr as its lord or a raider.

In my experience early to mid game you were hoping for a good drop from a battle or still beating your way through tourneys to sell off the random piece of inflated-cost gear if you aren't abusing the ability to smith super cheap weapons. That's assuming that still works as its been well over 6+ months since I've played the game. Not that it seems to have had any huge overhauls in the meanwhile.
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I've come back to it for 1.6.0, haven't touched smithing. My early game is typically arena spam for weapon skill, trade runs, and then hunting looters with recruits, then taking quests (there are more quests now, and hideouts are much easier because you can pick your crew). Usually the quests give enough gold that I can buy workshops, and the snowball grows from there. Tourney spam might be a better start though. All weapons in tournaments deal blunt damage now, which makes armoured enemies much easier.

My guess is that this game is meant to be an RPG, so gear for your character has to be absurdly expensive because if the character has already got all the best gear after a couple quests, some battles with looters and a few trading runs then you would have "won" prematurely. A bit like how you can't get a boss's entire loot table on your first kill in WoW when you logically should. Would have been better to create something like books from Warband or super expensive lord/hero-exclusive armours to capture that feeling though, rather than use RPG logic for named characters and strategy game logic for all the troops.
 
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How is the main quest still so fucking broken?
I chose to support Battania with the dragon banner and the quest failed instantly after I did that. Now I get spammed with disrupting supply lines and other shit, with no actual progress being given.
 
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How is the main quest still so fucking broken?
I chose to support Battania with the dragon banner and the quest failed instantly after I did that. Now I get spammed with disrupting supply lines and other shit, with no actual progress being given.
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There's a main quest in a Mount and Blade game?

More seriously, it's some counterintuitive BS. You have to tell both Istiana and Arzagos that you support them, so you can get directed to both hideouts, then you'll have the banner pieces to support one for real. But for some reason the next step in the quest chain is on the same timer as Nertzes' Folly, so you could fail anyway due to the timer (which got extended in patch 1.6.1). I supported Istiana first, then Arzagos, but then only had 2 days left.
 
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How is the main quest still so fucking broken?
I chose to support Battania with the dragon banner and the quest failed instantly after I did that. Now I get spammed with disrupting supply lines and other shit, with no actual progress being given.
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I'm pretty sure it's still got a time limit baked in too, god help you if you don't get established fast enough to go for the route you're wanting. That's assuming it functions or isn't instantly failed by something weird happening in the background.
 
I have to say this game releasing into early access was one of the greatest disappointments of that year for me as the game would never be in a state thats good or satisfying.

At least horse archer AI is good now and they can autonomously attack shit
 
So I picked up Bannerlord and it's extremely convoluted and boring, to be honest. The 'early game' drags on forever. It took me about 6-8 hours to finally get to the quest to reach clan tier 4. It takes forever. I'm an additional 4 hours in and no closer to achieving that goal. I ditched the campaign to try sandbox so I could actually have my own kingdom. It's even more boring. You have to deal with the same pool of town quests, most of which are stupid as shit, including fan favorites such as: Buy My Stolen Bullshit, Family Feud, and who could forget, Wait Here For 3 Days and Waste Resources to Fight 10 Guys with Pitchforks! The only quests really worth doing are the ones where you give prisoners over for gold, and the ones where you train soldiers. They're the only two quest types I take, and even still they're a huge pain in the fucking ass because looters and raiders are few and far between. The game doesn't feel difficult or challenging, it feels purposefully obtuse to stall you.

I didn't play a ton of Warband but I remember it being far more enjoyable. I'm going to go back to that.
 
I picked Bannerlord up a couple days ago and damn does it feel like a step backwards. Warband was a slow moving game but Bannerlord's progression is like a glacier. I'm like 8 hours in and still feel like I'm grinding out boring side quest. Building trust with factions and kingdoms seems a lot slower. I'll play a little longer before I start modding the game but it would be nice if it picks up the pace a little.
 
Bannerlord is frustrating because it does a lot of things better than Warband, and a lot of things worse. On the plus side, the models don't look like they're from the PS2 as in Warband, sieges (mostly) aren't broken pieces of shit, being able to have your own kids and play as them is genuinely neat, and there's a lot of new tools in battle. On the down side, the game is lacking a ton of content (which is to be expected in an early access game, but it's barely improved), the economy is broken and their balancing has only served to make it harder to cheese money to buy the absurdly overpriced armor, and there's a general lack of new groundbreaking features that expansion packs for Warband provided, like naval combat. I hope they get their shit together, they did for Warband. It's just annoying to see it play out all over again.
 
The clan system is stupid and needlessly restrictive. I'd prefer it if it was just a secondary faction system: optional, allows you to be a part of it without being its leader, allows you to join or betray clans, no arbitrary hard caps on troops or companions (global arbitrary soft caps might work though).

It's at the point where I can't see myself playing until the system sees an overhaul and I strongly doubt that's ever going to happen, since for all I know it's a hardcoded system. Their update priorities are all over the place anyway.
 
Now imagine a timeline where instead of wasting time on building an engine from scratch, they used something like the new Unreal or any other well-developed one.
The game would be out way sooner, and they could've focused on adding actual content and features instead of feeding us bugfixes and balance patches.
Sure, doing so would probably bring some issues of their own, but far less than trying to keep theirs from falling apart after each bugfix.
Maybe I'm just jaded and fatigued by TW, but I see it as nothing more than hubris.
 
I'm fine with them building their own engine and fine tuning. Not fucking everything has to be Unreal or Unity.
 
Necro this thread, but version 1.80 is out.
Here are the patch notes (warning, long post)

Latest Changes:​

Singleplayer​

Crashes

  • Fixed a crash that occurred when killing a prisoner hero with friendly fire during a prison break mission.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred while trying to assign a trade-bound settlement of a village.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred while compressing thumbnails.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when asking to speak with a prisoner of a noble or a companion.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when a party entered the Baltakhand level 2 town.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred during the prison break mission.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred if a troop had a ranged primary weapon but no ammo at the beginning of a mission.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred during the hideout cutscene.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when attacking a siege tower while being on top of it.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when the player tried to defend a village from being raided.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when the main hero was executed.

Fixes

  • Fixed a bug that caused the player to gain Scouting and Riding experience while stationary on the campaign map.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented the spawning of selected troops in hideouts and keep battles if unit spawn prioritisation wasn't set to the default setting.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented the weapon statistics texts from showing bonuses/penalties on the crafting screen.
  • Fixed a few exploits that allowed for huge Roguery experience gains.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the defending side in keep battles to have too many ranged units.

Changes

  • Players can now reset the perks of clan members through the arena master.
  • Removed the wealth component for AI’s settlement value score calculation to make defection decisions more meaningful.
  • Decreased the AI's daily defection consideration chance to prevent AI clans from defecting to AI factions from the player's faction. (This is a temporary solution. We will continue to improve the defection feature and AI's defection score calculation.)


Multiplayer​

Crashes

  • Fixed a server crash that occurred when picking up weapons from the ground.
  • Fixed a server crash that occurred when attacking a siege tower while being on top of it.
  • Fixed a server crash that occurred at the start of a new round in Captain mode.

Fixes

  • Fixed a bug that prevented respawning after a duel ended.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the Imperial Legionary to have extra perks in Skirmish and Duel modes.
  • Fixed various typos and texts for Vlandian ranged troops and the Aserai Veteran.




Previous Beta Hotfixes:​

22/07/22

Singleplayer​

Crashes

  • Fixed a crash that occurred when accepting a marriage offer if the offered hero was not available anymore.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when creating a caravan.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred after a party disbanded.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when a stillborn baby notification was shown.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when trying to sort encyclopedia entries after filtering them.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when talking to the bandits in the Extortion by Deserters quest.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred due to unintended heroes joining a tournament.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred after pressing the Recruit All button on the Recruit Prisoners popup of the Party screen while holding down the Control or the Shift key.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred due to a bandit party in the Extortion By Deserters quest.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred on the Crafting screen when using keyboard shortcuts to smelt items.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred on the Crafting screen when trying to select a secondary usage for a weapon.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when a new troop was added to a formation that the player was part of.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred after the Army of Poachers quest battle.
  • (Modding) Fixed a crash that occurred when searching for new material on the inspector.


Fixes
  • Fixed a bug that prevented AI noble parties from leaving hero prisoners in settlements.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the main hero to be included in battle simulations.
  • Fixed a bug that caused companions that have been left in a settlement by the player to move to another settlement.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed the player to support clans and increase their influence through the kingdom menu while in a siege.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the Escort Merchant Caravan quest's caravan to disappear if the main party attacked them.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed the player to smelt items using keyboard shortcuts even when they are out of stamina.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed the player to take parties into the army using shortcut keys without any cost.
  • Fixed a bug that triggered Scout experience gains even when not moving.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the weight and build of characters to not be used correctly. Characters will now have a more diverse weight and build distribution.
  • Fixed a bug that caused too many Radagos' raider parties to spawn in the Radagos' hideout.
  • Fixed a bug that caused troops to starve faster when having a higher Medicine skill level.
  • Fixed a bug that caused an incorrect outcome message to be displayed when a new policy was accepted against the wishes of the council.
  • Fixed a bug that caused parties that are in the player's army to not buy food and starve.
  • (Modding) Fixed the missing decals issue that happened when a module was enabled before the Native module.


Changes
  • Increased the overall Medicine experience gains.
  • The Doctor's oath perk now applies medicine experience to both party surgeons.
  • Scouting experience is now correctly gained on other rough terrains including the desert, dune and snow. If a very low amount of Scouting experience would be gained by traversing the terrain it is now no longer given.
  • Improved the Russian localization.
  • Added additional information to the Crafting screen in order to better communicate why crafting orders are failing.
  • Added a confirmation prompt "Are you sure?" when trying to close the Loot/Inventory screen via the Done button after a battle without transferring any items.
  • Improved the workshop type selection algorithm.
  • Added trade-bound settlement info to the town and village tooltips.






16/06/22

Singleplayer​

Fixes
  • Fixed a bug that caused Notables to join tournaments.
  • Fixed a bug that caused crafting pieces to reset after save/load.


Initial Beta Changelog:​

Singleplayer​

Crashes
  • Fixed a crash that occurred on old saves.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when entering a village under raid.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when encountering an enemy after capturing a settlement with an allied army.
  • Fixed several crashes that occurred in sieges and field battles.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred after the hideout cutscene.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred in sieges due to the player taking control of an agent that was waiting in a ladder queue.
  • Fixed several crashes that occurred when using the column formation.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when loading the campaign map.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred due to the Extortion By Deserters quest party trying to move beyond the edge of the map.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when talking to family members that are governors.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred before starting the fight in the Noble Revolt quest.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred due to prisoner heroes not being released correctly.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred on the campaign map.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when upgrading troops.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred due to a bug with the agent navigation system.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred while loading and deleting corrupted save files.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when abdicating leadership.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred while talking to a quest giver in your army during a raid.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when executing the last living member of a clan.
  • Fixed AI agent targeting systems related crashes.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred while having the Noble Revolt quest active.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when the game tried to save while saving.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred after loading a save that has second phase quests active.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred due to a bug in the food consumption formula if all of the related perks were unlocked.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when capturing the last enemy settlement in Unify The Empire quest.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred while having the Disrupt Supply Lines quest active.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when joining a faction.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred upon pressing Start on the Order of Battle screen.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred when attempting to select formations after a battle was over.


Performance
  • Fixed various lag spikes, especially in siege missions.
  • Improved general siege CPU performance.
  • Fixed CPU usage spikes that occurred in battles.
  • Improved loading times.
  • Optimised performance in sieges in regards to archers shooting from or at the walls.
  • Optimised path-finding operations.
  • Optimised performance of formation AI.
  • Optimised performance of the dropped weapons system.
  • Moved agent formation AI to another thread to improve frame rates.
  • Optimised AI logic, caravan price data and settlement variables to improve general campaign performance.
  • Optimised campaign fast forward mode.


Save & Load
  • Changed the quick save system to utilise the last used save slot.


Localisation
  • Added German localisation.
  • Updated all localisations.
  • Fixed various typos and grammar bugs.


Art
  • Increased the number of agents using animation points in castle and town scenes.
  • Added 4 new battle scenes.
  • Added 6 new town scenes: Phycaon, Diathma, Saneopa, Syronea, Epicrotea, and Danustica.
  • Added 7 new outer meshes to existing town scenes.
  • Added 5 new Aserai shoulder pieces: Bronze Scale Shoulder Guards, Long Sleeved Bronze Scale Shoulder Guards, Bronze Scale Pauldrons, Decorated Bronze Scale Pauldrons, and Decorated Long Sleeve Bronze Scale Pauldrons.
  • Added 6 new Vlandia shoulder pieces: Ornate Pauldrons, Ornate Pauldrons with Cape, Reinforced Ornate Pauldrons, Reinforced Ornate Pauldrons over Scale, Pauldrons with Cape, and Scale Shoulderguards.
  • Added 6 new Aserai helmets: Brass Southern Closed Helmet, Brass Southern Closed Helmet with Turban, Brass Southern Helmet, Brass Southern Helmet with Turban, Brass Southern Helmet with Leather Flaps, and Brass Turbaned Helmet with Leather Flaps.
  • Added 4 new Aserai body pieces: Southern Reinforced Mail Armor, Southern Reinforced Sleeveless Mail Armor, Southern Reinforced Mail Vest, and Southern Reinforced Short Mail Armor.
  • Added 1 new Empire cape: Heavy Cloak.
  • Added pommels to 16 existing maces.
  • Fixed a visual issue with the Narrow Menavlon Head.
  • Fixed a visual issue with Rhagaea's dress.
  • Various fixes to all scenes.


Animations
  • Fixed a bug with musician animations that occurred after starting a conversation.
  • Fixed a bug that caused musicians to float in the air.
  • Fixed a bug that caused multiple agents to sit on the same chair.
  • Removed an incorrect campaign map character animation that played while helping a village that is being raided.


Campaign Map
  • Improved performance.
  • Improved some campaign camera behaviours.
  • Fixed bugs in relation to party teleporting, floating and rotation.
  • Improved the army leader and army member visual location algorithm. Army members will now converge when moving in narrow places.
  • Party banners will now spawn near the settlement and castle walls once a party enters it.


UI
Changes

  • Introduced new scene notifications to give more weight to events. They can open automatically or be triggered with a circle notification.
    • Generic: Newborn, Marriage, Heir coming of age, Death from old age, Main hero dies in battle, Clan member death (2 variations), Joined a kingdom, Kingdom created, Kingdom destroyed.
    • Main Storyline: Supported faction defeated, Finding banner pieces (3 variations), Pledge allegiance, Conspiracy (2 variations), Declaring dragon banner.
  • Settlement values within the encyclopaedia are now restricted to settlements that you are near, that are within your kingdom, or that have a clan member inside.
  • Introduced a new "Hero Deaths in Combat" difficulty option and moved "Enable Birth and Death" to a separate module.
    • 3 available options that can be changed during gameplay: "Disable All Battle Deaths", "Disable Battle Deaths Player Only" and "Enable All Battle Deaths".
    • "Enable Birth and Death" will now only be visible during character creation if the "Birth and Death Options" module is selected in the launcher. If the module doesn't exist, the default value is enabled.
  • Order of Battle configurations are now saved separately for sieges and field battles.
  • Organised Gameplay Options tab contents in the options screen. Gameplay options are now shown under Controls, Visuals, Camera, User Interface, and Campaign categories.
  • Improved phrasing for clan members' current behaviour.
  • While cheat mode is enabled, opening the default dismiss mode party screen will now show all the troops defined in the game on the left side roster.
  • A black layer is now shown while the map scene is being prepared for rendering during transitions.
  • Added a "Show on map" button next to names in the clan screen, members tab.
  • Improvements to board game tutorial images and popup layout.
  • Changed Level icon and label to tier icons on the party screen for non-hero troops.
  • Removed unbuilt siege engines from deployment points in the siege deployment phase.
  • Inventory trade rumours are now sorted by their sell/buy values.
  • Troops tooltip in the army overlay now lists troops in the army by their type.
  • Weapon tooltips in the inventory now show the "Can't reload on horseback" property of the weapon.
  • Tavern keepers can now be seen with mission name markers (ALT).
  • Added a label to conversation screens to show the player's gold.
  • Added "Donate troops" button to the army overlay, party context popup.
  • "Transfer all" commands in the party screen now prioritise heroes before troops.
  • Improved influence cost visuals in the army management popup.
  • Added quest icons to character portraits in the conversation screen.
  • Changed "Propose" text to "Enact" in the Kingdom screen when there is only one clan in the player's kingdom.
  • Added "Remove engine" behaviour to the right mouse and click on custom battle siege engine slots.
  • Added missing collapse visual indicators to clan and quests screens.
  • Encyclopaedia search results are now sorted by their relevance.
  • Added explanation for why the player can not disband their army from the army management screen. Disabled the disband army button during a map event.
  • Added a new crafting icon to represent an empty piece.
  • Updated the canvas texture used in some UI elements.
  • General layout improvements in the Party screen, Kingdom screen, Clan screen, mobile party markers, game menu and many more…
  • Attack option is now greyed out instead of removed when the player is too wounded to attack.
  • Improved tooltip information for pillaging decisions so that the information is displayed more clearly and in order of importance.
  • Removed an unnecessary loading screen from execution scenes.
Fixes

  • Fixed some minor Order of Battle issues.
  • Fixed some inconsistencies with quest icons on game menu options, party nameplates etc.
  • Fixed the common area mission marker visual not representing friendly common areas.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented weapon orders from updating properly in the crafting screen.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the background of the kingdom decisions panel to disappear.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented the weapon piece filters from working properly in the crafting screen.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the "You're dead" text to be visible when the player didn't take part in the battle.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the gold value of the other item roster to be shown even when it's not relevant (loot inventory).
  • Fixed a bug that caused self-inflicted damage to be shown in the personal feed in the mission HUD.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the “Done” text to be missing in an unsuccessful save game deletion popup.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the conversation screen to not show all the parties encountered before the conversation.
  • Fixed a bug that caused wrong directions to be shown during the attack and defend tutorials.
  • Fixed a bug that caused players to be able to donate troops over the other party's troop limit.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented scoreboard texts from changing language if the language was changed during a battle.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the game to become stuck when opening the encyclopaedia just before a loading screen.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the Order of Battle screen to pop up even if the player did not control any troops.
  • Fixed a bug that caused settlement food tooltips to not show the building bonus.


Combat
  • Armour Effectiveness Improvements:
    • Reduced the armor coefficient from 100 to 50. In translation, 1 armour now provides 2 health points against blunt attacks.
    • Reduced blunt damage's pure damage coefficient from 1 to 0.4.
    • Increased additional armour effectiveness against blunt damage from 0 to 0.25.
    • These changes increase the effectiveness of mid to late-game armour against blunt damages to make it feel like a more meaningful investment.
  • All combat mechanics effects (knockdown, knockback, dismount) are now decided using a standard and deterministic model:
    • All weapons that can apply these combat mechanics effects have the relevant flag (like "Can Knockdown”, “Can Dismount"). These flags are displayed on weapon tooltips.
    • To apply any of these effects, an attacker should now deal enough damage to exceed threshold damage which is computed as the maximum hit points of the victim times its resistance percentage against the relevant effect.
    • Athletics skill now increases resistance percentage against knockdown and knockback effects.
    • Riding skill now increases resistance percentage against thrust dismount and hooked dismount effects.
    • Certain attacks might reduce these resistances by a penetration amount.
    • All perks which provide chance-based knockdown or knockback effects are replaced with those increasing penetration for the same effects.
  • Added Light Crossbows (Simple, Light, Fine Crossbow). They can be set on the move and are also usable on mounts without a perk.
  • Decreased the damage of blunt weapons by approximately 10%.
  • Spiked clubs now deal piercing instead of blunt damage.
  • Throwing axes now deal bonus damage to shields (when thrown and in melee).


Battles and Sieges
  • Adjusted disorganised state penalties and the events which trigger this state. After a fight or when leaving an army, parties will be in a disorganised state for 6 hours. They will move 40% slower and have 20% less battle morale. In addition, if the player leaves some men behind in order to get away from a fight this will be applied to the opponent. Missions that do not involve the entire party (clearing hideouts or alleys, prison breaks) will not cause a disorganised state.
Battle

  • Implemented an improved system for spawning reinforcements in battles:
    • Reinforcements will now always spawn near the deployment boundaries of the battle.
    • The initial wave of troops always spawns on the original path with respect to the position of the battle on the campaign map and the battle size. There are two new spawn paths that reinforcements can spawn on, one path counter-clockwise to the original path and one path clockwise to the original path.
    • Reinforcements will pick the safest spawn path of the three with the safest spawn path being the one furthest away from the enemy.
    • This improved system prevents the camping of spawn points by the enemy as well as the spawning of troops in the middle of an active fight.
    • Fixed a bug in reinforcement reserves computation which created various problems during reinforcement spawning.
  • Changed the AI so that it now uses the formations' total power (including all unspawned troops) to decide battle tactics.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented troop transfers between formations with troops that are closest to the target formation’s order position.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the column arrangement to break after a few movement orders in the deployment phase.
  • Fixed a bug that caused caravan objects to be seen as usable objects in caravan battles.
Siege

  • Fixed a bug that caused the AI in siege to deploy an unnecessary number of men to defend the gate despite there being breaches elsewhere.
  • Fixed a bug that caused troops to defend the wrong entry points in a siege, most commonly experienced in scenes where ladders and the siege tower have different wall segments to attack over.
  • In sieges, defender troops wait in a safe location before going to fight off the attackers on the walls. Previously, this move didn’t happen fast enough. Now the defenders move to the position to be defended earlier.
  • Fixed a bug that caused troops to try to raise and climb a non-existent ladder after being given a charge order.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented defending troops from opening the castle gates after being given a charge order if there was no battering ram on the other side.
  • Improved the system that picks troops for transfers between formations in sieges, reducing meaningless back and forth running.
  • Fixed a bug that caused newly spawned attacking reinforcements to stand at their spawn.
  • Improved behavior in siege battles with a small number of attackers. Instead of trying to operate several siege machines, they will focus on a single siege weapon or breach that they regard as their easiest entry point.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the gate state to get stuck in “Open” if the defending formation lost all of its troops at the same time they closed the gate. This would cause attackers to stand behind the castle gate, unable to open it.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the attacking AI to split formations and transfer troops as they were assaulting the walls, causing troops to walk between walls and the gate. Additionally, troops are no longer called from far away to use siege machines when they are in inconvenient locations.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented the player from taking over command of formations in army sieges where the player is the general.
  • The other ranged siege weapon operators now replace the pilot if the pilot dies or leaves.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the player to be assigned to a detachment (like siege engines or archer positions) during the Order of Battle deployment screen.
  • Agents no longer wield their weapons when going for ammo or when switching positions while using ranged siege weapons.
  • After capturing a settlement through a siege, besieger parties will now transfer garrison troops to the settlement evenly (excluding the player’s party).
  • Fixed a bug that caused lords not to donate troops to garrison after capturing a settlement.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed for the continuation of a siege even after receiving the settlement through other means.
  • Fixed a bug which prevented sieges from ending due to the defending side awaiting reinforcements and the reinforcements not spawning.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented the usage of the party engineer's skills while setting up the siege engines.


Character Development System
  • You can now reset your character's and companion's perk assignments through the arena master for a suitable price. The generic tavern NPCs can also point this out as a tip.
  • Overhauled the equipment selection system for born heroes so that it takes many parameters into account such as culture, traits, hero type, etc.
  • Improved the way NPC child skill and trait levels are calculated. The child now receives skills and traits periodically instead of all at once when reaching adulthood.
  • Balanced Scouting skill experience gains -- sustaining higher party speeds with larger parties will now grant more experience.
  • Balanced Combat skill experience gains -- attacking higher-tier troops will now provide more experience.
  • Balanced the combat perks related to throwing and ranged weapons to improve the progression curve.
  • Balanced the Athletics skill experience gains for on-foot attacks.
  • Balanced the Riding skill experience gained from ranged attacks to provide more experience with high-difficulty shots.
  • Overhauled the Leadership skill experience gain method, instead of a passive increase, it is now tied directly to experience gained by the commanded troops.
  • Overhauled the Roguery skill experience gain method, instead of a passive increase, it is now tied directly to experience gained by commanded bandit troops. Additionally, balanced the experience gained from looting caravans and villagers.
  • Diversified and balanced the actions which provide Engineering skill experience. Destroying siege engines now provides Engineering skill experience.
  • Fixed various bugs related to the following perks: Throwing Competitions, Metallurgy, In Bloom, Young and Respectful, Walk it Off, A good day's rest, Uncanny Insight, Strong, Good Lodging, Ultimate Leader, and Local Connection.
  • Forest Kin perk: No longer cuts the Battanian forest bonus.
  • Foragers perk: No longer reduces stewardship XP gain.
  • Self-made Man perk: Barter penalty now works when selling too.
  • Partners in Crime perk: Fixed a bug that prevented secondary bandit parties from joining the player when they surrender.
  • Quick Draw perk: Now correctly improves drawing speed instead of readying speed.
  • Full Speed perk: Now correctly improves the charge damage.
  • The way of the Saddle perk: Now correctly improves charge damage and horse maneuvering.
  • Fixed a bug that caused Trade skill experience to not be given correctly when selling items for profit.
  • Fixed a bug that caused horses to stack during character creation when reverting already completed steps.


Clan and Party
  • Improved clan management via the Clan screen:
    • You can now exchange the leader of a clan party.
    • You can assign a new party leader for a clan party if the party leader has died.
    • You can recall a clan member to your party if they are staying in a settlement.
    • You can send a clan member to stay at one of your towns or castles.
    • AI clans will also assign a party leader if the party leader has died and if there is one available. AI clans will change the party leaders if there is a better one available.
    • Heroes will be teleported with some delay according to their distance from the teleportation target.
  • Introduced marriage offers which will be received via circle map notifications for single clan members (other than the main hero).
  • Hero party leaders now have preferred troop types when upgrading.
  • Rebalanced companion skill traits and updated some of their backstories. This should result in fewer scouts in particular.
  • Improved the campaign party AI to prevent party zigzagging in the same spot.
  • Improved the campaign party AI path selection decisions.
  • Improved the logic that calculates initial spawn and target positions for parties.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented parties from buying enough food for their troops.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the player party to be non-responsive to player input on the campaign map.
  • Fixed a bug that duplicated the main hero's equipment on succession.
  • Fixed a bug that caused troop upgrade values to show incorrect and negative results at the end of battles.


Armies
  • Improved the campaign map AI:
    • Adjusted the decision score calculation of patrol, defend, and besiege stances to increase the siege success rates and aggressiveness of AI armies.
    • AI armies can now target and besiege the same settlement simultaneously to aid each other.
    • Noble parties now buy and carry more food to provide enough food supply for their armies.
    • Increased the minimum party size requirement for parties to join armies from 40% to 60%.
    • Improved the cohesion boosting behaviour of armies. They now boost their cohesion when on important tasks like defending or besieging.
    • Armies with less than 30 cohesion disband themselves if they decide not to boost their cohesion or don't have enough influence to do so.
    • Armies disband themselves if all active wars of their faction are over.
    • The creation chance of an army decreases with each active army (the maximum a faction can have is 5). This is done so that there are fewer but bigger armies.
    • Armies now assemble near a friendly settlement that is closest to the target enemy settlement, reducing the travel time to the target enemy settlement.
  • Inviting a party to an army is no longer possible if the party is besieging or raiding.
  • Fixed a bug that caused armies to wait outside of the settlement instead of starting a siege if the player is in the settlement with a few troops.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed the player to ask its clan’s caravan to join their army.


Kingdoms and Diplomacy
  • Introduced mercenary offers, which will be sent to the player by faction rulers. Mercenary offers can be accepted without talking to the faction ruler.
  • Introduced vassalage offers which will be sent to the player by faction rulers. These notifications act as an invite to join the faction ruler for a discussion on potential vassalage.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed eliminated clans to participate in decisions.
  • Fixed a bug that caused no gold to be received when accepting a prisoner ransom offer.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed the player to grant a fief which was part of an ongoing ownership vote.


Economy and Trade
  • Adjusted the supply and demand of various trade goods. Improved the viability and longevity of trade gameplay. Made caravans and workshops more profitable as well as more risky investments.
  • [Read more about the extensive economy and trade changes here]
  • Added the Camel Ranch village type.
  • Improved the target settlement selection algorithm of caravan parties.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented caravans from differentiating between items with different modifiers.
  • Fixed a bug that caused caravan parties to join sieges.


Crafting
  • Separated the crafting piece unlocking experience into the respective weapon types. Crafting a weapon now collects experience for that weapon type only and any unlocked part will be available for that weapon type alone.
  • Crafting parts are now unlocked gradually, Tier 1 parts first, followed by Tier 2 and so on.
  • Made existing crafting pieces from weapon templates available across other weapon templates:
    • One-Handed Axe: 69 pommels
    • Two-Handed Axe: 69 pommels
    • Mace: 92 pommels
    • Two-Handed Mace: 69 pommels
  • Added 14 new heads and 5 new handles which can be used for the creation of two-handed maces in the smithy. 10 two-handed maces, created out of these pieces have also been added to the marketplace and various troops (Bandits, Aserai Mameluke Guard, Aserai Mameluke Palace Guard, Sturgian Line Breaker).
  • Adjusted the weight of Tier 2 mace heads and reduced their damage factor by 10%.
  • Removed Heavy Wooden Blade, Wooden Blade, and Wooden Guard as crafting pieces.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the customer of a crafting order to be displeased even though the order exceeded all expectations.


Settlement Actions (Town, Village, Castle and Hideout)
  • Lowered the upgrade chance of recruits.
  • You can now hire tavern mercenaries through the menu option even when your party is at its capacity.
  • The "Ransom your prisoners” menu option no longer ransoms prisoners that are locked in the party screen.
  • Notables in towns and villages are now fixed (number-wise). They were previously dependent on prosperity and hearth levels.
  • The player’s clan now needs to be at least Tier 3 to request a meeting in castles and towns.
  • Enabled playing board games with clan members and improved the board game logic.
  • Improved the follow logic of clan members in missions.
  • 10% of the prisoners in all settlements will now be sold daily to prevent dungeons from exceeding the prisoner limit.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the garrison to starve even though there was food in the settlement.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed the player to enter the enemy settlement without a disguise after entering the settlement in disguise and clearing an alley.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the settlement's continuous projects to show incorrect bonus values.
  • Fixed a bug that caused an incorrect banner to be displayed in castle meeting scenes.
  • Fixed a bug that allowed players to shoot the horse training area targets before the countdown.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented the player from attacking a hideout.
  • Fixed a bug that made the Konane board game extremely difficult to win.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the prison break prisoner to spawn in an unreachable point.
  • Fixed a bug that caused a tournament to be created after another tournament had just finished in the same town.


Quests & Issues
  • Updated quest logs, alternative solution rewards, durations and/or requirements for various quests (Escort Merchant Caravan, Overpriced goods, Nearby Bandit Base, Rival Gang Moving in, Needs to Deliver a Herd, Can't sell product at a fair price, Needs access to village commons, Extortion by deserters, Needs Grain Seeds, Army of Poachers, Gang Leader Needs Weapons, Family Feud, Needs Garrison Troops, Lord Needs Horses, Lord Wants Rival Captured, The Spy party, Caravan Ambush, Inn and Out, Village Needs Tools, Needs Help with Brigands, Lord Needs A Tutor).
  • Updated alternative solution ending logs for all issues.
  • Moved the quest dialogue option to the top of the dialogue options.
  • Updated some dialogues for the “Manual Laborers” quest.
  • The quest bandit party will now turn to a normal bandit party (if it is active) after a quest ends.
  • Players will now get their weapons back if the “Gangleader Needs Weapons” quest cancels.
  • Added excl. marks to quest NPCs and quest menus in the “Spy Among Us” quest.
  • Added excl. marks to the “Revenue Farming” related quest buttons.
  • Added the missing companion solution log to the “Family Feud” quest.
  • Improved some logic and conditions for the “Art of the Trade” and “Revenue Farming” quests.
  • The main storyline now fails if you pledge your support to a faction and then leave that faction.
  • Bandit parties that surrender to the player during the “Needs help with Brigands” quest now count towards the quest progress.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the "Lord needs horses" quest to award an incorrect amount of gold.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the “Caravan Ambush” quest to fail if the player hired the attacking bandit party (through the Partners in Crime perk) before engaging the caravan.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the militia party to leave the village on the “Extortion by Deserters” quest battle start.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the player's captivity to end automatically after failing the “Extortion by Deserters” quest battle.
  • Fixed a bug that activated the battle encounter after talking to the quest giver noble in the “Conquest of the Settlement” quest.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the “Family Feud” quest NPC to disappear after save/load.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the “Escort Caravan” quest to end after visiting only one settlement.
  • Fixed a bug that caused companions to die during alternative solutions to quests.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the main party to starve during the tutorial phase.
  • Fixed a bug that caused refugees to starve during the tutorial phase.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented the main hero from talking with a noble about Neretzes' Folly while the noble was in a dungeon as a prisoner.
  • Fixed a bug that caused another notable to spawn in the tutorial village during the tutorial phase.


Conversations & Encounters
  • Improved the recognition of the player by NPCs in dialogues. If a player has high or low relations with an NPC but they are not famous, the NPC now still knows their name. For example, NPCs should know who has been attacking their villages/caravans.
  • Improved the NPC comments in dialogues when the player becomes a mercenary.
  • Improved the NPC conversations with workshop employers to flow more smoothly and provide more information.
  • Fixed a bug that caused freezes while talking to lords.
  • Fixed a bug that caused an encounter to open per party instead of together.


Other
  • [Changed many troops, items and item names]
  • Renamed the Custom Battle hero Nylios to Nylia.
  • Fixed a bug that gave the player horses after being captured.
  • Improved the random name generation to avoid duplicate names.
  • Advanced trainers on the training field can no longer be damaged during the countdown.
  • Added age diversity to non-hero characters like the tavern keeper, shop worker, etc. which affects their appearance in scenes.
  • Added new encyclopaedia entries for player siblings.
  • Added new encyclopaedia entries explaining personality traits.


Multiplayer​

Crashes
  • Fixed bug that caused the game to freeze on the team selection screen.


Design & Balance
  • Slightly increased accuracy for Javelins and Throwing Spears.


Map Related
  • Fixed some physics issues with the Tsagaan Castle map.


Other - Miscellaneous
  • Corrected the client-side prediction for thrust attacks that get stuck on the opponent's body.
  • Players can no longer damage others when the round ends.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the saved perk selection to reset.
  • Fixed a bug that caused all the troops to look the same in Captain mode.


UI
Changes

  • Added a new visual popup for cosmetic item acquisition.
  • Improved feedback for changing arena preference during a duel.
  • Added a "Reset Equipment" button to the MP Armory screen.
  • The friend list now shows if a friend is in a party.
  • Improved the general layout of the Lobby, after battle report popup, spectator HUD, objectives HUD, class loadout, lobby profile tab, scoreboard, player compass elements and many more.
Fixes

  • Fixed a bug that caused the visual representation of progress for conditional badges to not work properly.
  • Fixed a bug that caused clan-related info to stay on screen while clan features were disabled.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the gold info to stay on screen while being in a game mode that doesn’t use gold.
  • Fixed a bug that prevented players from changing their keybinds in the MP Lobby options.
  • Fixed a bug that caused wrong keybinds to be shown in the Armory tab.
  • Fixed a bug that caused friend requests to not disappear.
  • Fixed a bug that caused incorrect MVP badges to be shown if the player joined during an active match.
  • Fixed a bug that caused an incorrect gold amount to be shown.
  • Fixed a bug that caused incorrect values to be shown in the recent games tab in MP Lobby.


Both​

Crashes
  • Fixed a crash caused by the AI targeting system.
  • Fixed a crash that occurred if the player paused a mission when an AI agent was in a specific state.


Art
  • Improved the shadow effects of particles on low graphics settings.


Audio
  • Added new UI sounds and updated some existing ones.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the player not to hear the sound of agents hitting castle doors.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the siege tower bridge landing sound to be distorted.


UI
Changes

  • General performance and memory usage improvements for Gauntlet (UI).
  • Enabled visual smoothing between visual states (Hovered, Selected etc.).
  • Renamed the "Advance" order to "Engage".
  • Added some missing Japanese characters to the Japanese font.
  • Updated the Korean font to make it more readable.
  • Added support for non-breaking space, narrow non-breaking space, and figure space characters.
  • Added support for word joiner (U+2060) character.
  • Disabled some graphics options if the player’s hardware doesn't support them. For example, the DLSS option is disabled if the player doesn't have an applicable graphics card. This is now conveyed with a tooltip on the disabled option.
  • Added direction visuals to circle selectors (cheer, radial order etc.) to better convey the selection process.
  • Order key visuals will now disappear if they're not relevant anymore. For example, the first set of orders' (Form, Movement, Toggle) key visuals will disappear when an order subset is selected (Form).
Fixes

  • Fixed a bug related to camel troop portraits.
  • Fixed a bug that caused some text fields to show paragraphs with additional spacing.
  • Fixed a bug that caused SHIFT and CTRL selections to not work consistently.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the wrong keybind to be shown for "Close chat" label in chatlog
  • Fixed a bug that caused the interaction UI to show up when looking at a riderless mount while mounted.


Performance
  • Optimised the feet inverse kinematics of humans.
  • Optimised the agent animation system.
  • Fixed a spike that was caused by the loading of physics of destructible entities.
  • Fixed a spike that occurred when a destructible object was broken.


Animations
  • Improved the camel idle animation to make bridles look better.


Combat
  • Trees are no longer considered as obstacles while drawing the direction with the mouse when giving orders to formations.
  • Improved the weapon reach calculations in terms of preciseness.
  • Improved ranged agents' aiming system by fixing some position computation and target agent visibility issues.
  • Perfect blocks no longer extend the attack ready duration.
  • Improved the melee combat AI in interior scenes to prevent agents from constantly hitting walls, doors etc.
  • Increased the aiming sensitivity with a ranged weapon for the controller.
  • Reduced the speed of mounts while walking down steps.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the attack and defend direction UI to show the wrong direction.
  • Fixed a bug that caused ranged weapons to be able to hit a target behind them.
  • Fixed a bug that caused the combat log to calculate the modified damage incorrectly for area damages.
  • Fixed a bug that caused skirmishers to keep their shields up in situations where they should have preferred to draw their weapons.

Been playing it more and more again. It is night and day compare to when it enter early acess in 2020. Combat is so much fun.
 
And yet modders still have to work despite and against the engine's shortcomings, rather than with it. The 'advanced' stuff we've seen in Warband mods is still a pipedream, so I'll stay away for now. Maybe it'll be more usable in a decade or two.
 
I am so annoyed that when the updates comes out, all the mods that I have been using before, breaks. Then I have to wait until the modder fix the issue.
 
Foltest said:
I am so annoyed that when the updates comes out, all the mods that I have been using before, breaks. Then I have to wait until the modder fix the issue.
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How is multiplayer? Last I tried all the server issues killed it for me.
 
For a short while during its initial 'release' I actually enjoyed the commander mode and you could have some fun fights. It was a little imbalanced and poor choices from your allies could screw you but that's hardly new to a PVP game.
 
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