Law Migrant Caravan sues the US - Alleges violation of constitutional rights

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A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

The Fifth Amendment states that, "no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding."

Twelve Honduran nationals, including six children, are listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit, which was filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said it is widely known that Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are “undergoing a well-documented human rights crisis.” The lawsuit also claims that the plaintiffs’ right to the Administrative Procedures Act and the Declaratory Judgement Act were being infringed upon.

The Central American migrant caravan now numbers approximately 4,000 people, down from a high of 7,200.

The lawsuit points to Trump's claim that he will prevent the caravan from entering the U.S. It claims that the president cannot stop asylum-seekers by employing the military -- when they have a fair claim. The suit criticized the president's alleged attempt at stoking "fear and hysteria" by claiming that criminals and gang members have joined the caravan.

The suit cited a Trump interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham, where the president laid out plans to build tent cities to house migrants. The suit questioned the functionality of such a project, and asked if these living quarters would qualify under the Flores Agreement of 1997. The agreement protects asylum-seekers’ rights and limits how long minors can be held.

Earlier this summer, a federal judge in California rejected a request by the administration to modify Flores to allow for longer family detention. Administration officials say they have the authority to terminate the agreement, but that is likely to be tested in court.

The White House, Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security -- which were all named as defendants -- did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

Trump announced in a lengthy speech at the White House on Thursday afternoon that in response to what he called the "crisis at our southern border" and a surge of fraudulent asylum claims in recent years, his administration will soon require asylum-seekers to "lawfully present themselves" at a port of entry.

Asylum claims made by migrants caught crossing the border illegally would seemingly be summarily denied under Trump's proposal.

The asylum clause of the Immigration and Nationality Act says that anyone who arrives to the U.S. may apply for asylum based on a well-founded fear of persecution, and Trump's decision was expected to prompt immediate federal court challenges.

Nexus Services Inc. is funding the lawsuits through a civil rights law firm called Nexus Derechos Humanos (Human Rights) Attorneys Inc.

"Federal law enables migrants to apply for asylum in the United States. President Trump and his administration have used ‘increased enforcement,’ like separating families and lengthening detention to violate migrant rights," Mike Donovan, president of Nexus Services, said in the release.

There is another legal issue at stake, according to the lawsuit. The U.S. cannot send troops into Mexico to cut off the caravan from crossing the border, it said. Even with the National Guard at the border, once an immigrant indicates an intention to apply for asylum, the suit maintained the process has begun.

Immigrants who are seeking asylum must be referred for a “credible fear interview,” for which an asylum officer would determine if the immigrant has a “credible fear of persecution,” the lawsuit said. If the officer makes that determination, then there is a significant chance for the asylum-seeker to be granted asylum, according to the suit.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mi...ment-claim-violation-of-constitutional-rights

Although this is an obvious PR tactic / delay stunt, I'm not sure how this will pass scrutiny at all- I don't see how (((migrants))) who are not in the country but who are actively attempting to enter without permission possibly have standing to sue on fifth amendment grounds. While I would disagree with the principle (but not the process) if they were already here, I don't see the logic in filing this until then.

The article itself is not bad. Some interesting points-

1) the caravan is down from 7200 to 4000. The cynic in me says they found a way here already, but who knows.

2) one of the points of their argument is that Trump's "tent cities" are inhumane. It references the Flores agreement of 1997, which lays out migrant rights and lengths of detention.

3) they argue the military cannot enter Mexico to stop the caravan and once in the US the migrants will be immediately applying for asylum.

While compared to total numbers coming across the border the "caravan" might be a drop in the bucket, there sure is a lot of money behind making a big show out of this thing.
 
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Food banks can be a double-edged sword. In my city, they built a massive food bank that partnered up with Fed Ex to distribute lots of free food very efficiently. The result? The "community organizers" who were before crying about "food insecurity", are now crying about "food deserts" because all of the grocery stores in the hoods are closing. Why are they closing? Turns out, in a capitalist system, it's very hard for a grocery store that charges money for food to compete with the free food that's being handed out by the food banks.
It’s also shitty when you’re constantly losing money due to theft too. I’ve heard of ubran grocery stores closing all entrances but one and hiring security at the doors.

The police don’t care if $5 in groceries are stolen and the staff don’t want to be stabbed or assaults either so it’s just a never ending problem.
 
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It’s also shitty when you’re constantly losing money due to theft too. I’ve heard of ubran grocery stores closing all entrances but one and hiring security at the doors.

The police don’t care if $5 in groceries are stolen and the staff don’t want to be stabbed or assaults either so it’s just a never ending problem.

And then you've got the latest leftist lunacy of decriminalizing shoplifting by making fines and punishment so light that it's basically a waste of time to bother calling the police even when you catch a shoplifter red-handed with up to $900 in stolen merchandise.

That's what Prop 47 did in California, and who coulda seen this coming?

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We should spend the money to make sure our own kids aren't starving because after decades of spending billions in shithole countries, they're still shitholes because they're populated by exceptional shitheads. For every one who's willing to put in the work, how many members of their community swarm around to leech off of them? How many of the richest and brightest flee their home countries to the West? How many trillions are enough when we have our own problems?

Stop letting Pajeet and Wang in on H1B visas, and tell Mkwazi to go work for his own country.

Either that or just colonize them.
 
And then you've got the latest leftist lunacy of decriminalizing shoplifting by making fines and punishment so light that it's basically a waste of time to bother calling the police even when you catch a shoplifter red-handed with up to $900 in stolen merchandise.

That's what Prop 47 did in California, and who coulda seen this coming?

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First they decriminalize knowingly infecting someone with HIV now this?

It’s like california is trying to tell sane people “don’t come here, you’ll regret it”. Which is fine because fuck if I’d ever live in that shit awful state.
 
First they decriminalize knowingly infecting someone with HIV now this?

It’s like california is trying to tell sane people “don’t come here, you’ll regret it”. Which is fine because fuck if I’d ever live in that shit awful state.
Cities in this state started the trend of paying violent criminals to stop committing crimes. They don't know how to solve a problem without coddling a criminal or throwing gibs at it.
 
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These pictures are pretty neat, but I'd love to see the stuff they're not showing us off-camera so these people aren't prepared for it ahead of time.
 
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Not razor wire. Concertina wire. Concertina wire snags yours clothes and makes sure you can't grab it. Razor wires cuts the fucking shit out of you.
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I hated when we had to deploy it instead of concertina wire. Although I guess it technically isn't a lie since concertina wire is considered a "grade", if you will, of razor wire. It's just the least dangerous kind. Moot point since I'm sure BP doesn't have the personnel to monitor the entire border and they'll just cut the shit down.
 
This is the most aggravating part. These people call you a monster if you don't want to invite people from halfway around the planet for handouts, but at the same time they won't lift a finger to help homeless people who live on the same street.
Everywhere I look, I see businesses with help wanted signs, surrounded by people illegally living in tents.
Deport the bums and import some of the good migrants, people from countries where, if you don't work, you don't eat.
 
Everywhere I look, I see businesses with help wanted signs, surrounded by people illegally living in tents.
Deport the bums and import some of the good migrants, people from countries where, if you don't work, you don't eat.

Apparently that isn't these guys, who were hurling food handouts at Tijuana locals and demanding pizza instead.
 
First they decriminalize knowingly infecting someone with HIV now this?

It’s like california is trying to tell sane people “don’t come here, you’ll regret it”. Which is fine because fuck if I’d ever live in that shit awful state.
All shitposting aside, I have to say that as someone who grew up there in the 80s and 90s it's heartbreaking to watch and read about. It seems like the current crop of insane people in charge of California are hellbent on destroying the state beyond recognition with all deliberate speed. You couldn't pay me to live there now.
 
All shitposting aside, I have to say that as someone who grew up there in the 80s and 90s it's heartbreaking to watch and read about. It seems like the current crop of insane people in charge of California are hellbent on destroying the state beyond recognition with all deliberate speed. You couldn't pay me to live there now.
Californians are even moving out of the state at quite the pace the way I heard it, and of course they continue to vote in the same dumbshit policies that fucked over California so hard in the first place. Maybe we should just gas all progressives.
 
>leaves native country in search of better country to live off of
>mexico offers asylum
>they dont want it
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>tries to storm the gates of trumps america
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>"why does no one want us in their country we're just trying to find a home"
>uh
 
Californians are even moving out of the state at quite the pace the way I heard it, and of course they continue to vote in the same dumbshit policies that fucked over California so hard in the first place. Maybe we should just gas all progressives.

At some point in the development of a cancerous tumor, its cells start to migrate to other organs and cause cancer there, too. It's called metastasis.
 
Californians are even moving out of the state at quite the pace the way I heard it, and of course they continue to vote in the same dumbshit policies that fucked over California so hard in the first place. Maybe we should just gas all progressives.
I'm starting a caravan in LA to travel to Canada's border and plead for asylum.
 
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