Law Migrant Caravan sues the US - Alleges violation of constitutional rights

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A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

The Fifth Amendment states that, "no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding."

Twelve Honduran nationals, including six children, are listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit, which was filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said it is widely known that Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are “undergoing a well-documented human rights crisis.” The lawsuit also claims that the plaintiffs’ right to the Administrative Procedures Act and the Declaratory Judgement Act were being infringed upon.

The Central American migrant caravan now numbers approximately 4,000 people, down from a high of 7,200.

The lawsuit points to Trump's claim that he will prevent the caravan from entering the U.S. It claims that the president cannot stop asylum-seekers by employing the military -- when they have a fair claim. The suit criticized the president's alleged attempt at stoking "fear and hysteria" by claiming that criminals and gang members have joined the caravan.

The suit cited a Trump interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham, where the president laid out plans to build tent cities to house migrants. The suit questioned the functionality of such a project, and asked if these living quarters would qualify under the Flores Agreement of 1997. The agreement protects asylum-seekers’ rights and limits how long minors can be held.

Earlier this summer, a federal judge in California rejected a request by the administration to modify Flores to allow for longer family detention. Administration officials say they have the authority to terminate the agreement, but that is likely to be tested in court.

The White House, Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security -- which were all named as defendants -- did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

Trump announced in a lengthy speech at the White House on Thursday afternoon that in response to what he called the "crisis at our southern border" and a surge of fraudulent asylum claims in recent years, his administration will soon require asylum-seekers to "lawfully present themselves" at a port of entry.

Asylum claims made by migrants caught crossing the border illegally would seemingly be summarily denied under Trump's proposal.

The asylum clause of the Immigration and Nationality Act says that anyone who arrives to the U.S. may apply for asylum based on a well-founded fear of persecution, and Trump's decision was expected to prompt immediate federal court challenges.

Nexus Services Inc. is funding the lawsuits through a civil rights law firm called Nexus Derechos Humanos (Human Rights) Attorneys Inc.

"Federal law enables migrants to apply for asylum in the United States. President Trump and his administration have used ‘increased enforcement,’ like separating families and lengthening detention to violate migrant rights," Mike Donovan, president of Nexus Services, said in the release.

There is another legal issue at stake, according to the lawsuit. The U.S. cannot send troops into Mexico to cut off the caravan from crossing the border, it said. Even with the National Guard at the border, once an immigrant indicates an intention to apply for asylum, the suit maintained the process has begun.

Immigrants who are seeking asylum must be referred for a “credible fear interview,” for which an asylum officer would determine if the immigrant has a “credible fear of persecution,” the lawsuit said. If the officer makes that determination, then there is a significant chance for the asylum-seeker to be granted asylum, according to the suit.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mi...ment-claim-violation-of-constitutional-rights

Although this is an obvious PR tactic / delay stunt, I'm not sure how this will pass scrutiny at all- I don't see how (((migrants))) who are not in the country but who are actively attempting to enter without permission possibly have standing to sue on fifth amendment grounds. While I would disagree with the principle (but not the process) if they were already here, I don't see the logic in filing this until then.

The article itself is not bad. Some interesting points-

1) the caravan is down from 7200 to 4000. The cynic in me says they found a way here already, but who knows.

2) one of the points of their argument is that Trump's "tent cities" are inhumane. It references the Flores agreement of 1997, which lays out migrant rights and lengths of detention.

3) they argue the military cannot enter Mexico to stop the caravan and once in the US the migrants will be immediately applying for asylum.

While compared to total numbers coming across the border the "caravan" might be a drop in the bucket, there sure is a lot of money behind making a big show out of this thing.
 
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It's what annoys me about large charities as well. The ones that get the most money are the ones who waste the most on slick marketing and scummy upper management who know how to win the PR game. Do they even spend money in your community? Find out whether you local foodbank/animal shelter/veterans program/whatever is full of shitheads or not and donate to them for fucks sake. Ten to one they need it.

You should also do this when it's a disaster somewhere else. Don't donate to these shitty carpetbagging charities that jump on every new disaster and don't do shit. Donate to locals who are already in the community. Food banks are always good.

Incidentally these migrant criminals rejected donations of food, calling it "pig food," and threw it at the locals. These people are fucking degenerates and need to go home.



It won't hit the Supreme Court because it's a no-brainer.
how do i find which charities aren't scumbags?
 
Not razor wire. Concertina wire. Concertina wire snags yours clothes and makes sure you can't grab it. Razor wires cuts the fucking shit out of you.
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I hated when we had to deploy it instead of concertina wire. Although I guess it technically isn't a lie since concertina wire is considered a "grade", if you will, of razor wire. It's just the least dangerous kind. Moot point since I'm sure BP doesn't have the personnel to monitor the entire border and they'll just cut the shit down.

Any barrier not backed by direct fire only serves to annoy the enemy. Or whatever Bill Slim actually said. While I mostly agree with you, passive deterrents do work to some extent in this context. Making it hard enough to cross the border so that most people don't even try is the end goal.
 
Californians are even moving out of the state at quite the pace the way I heard it, and of course they continue to vote in the same dumbshit policies that fucked over California so hard in the first place. Maybe we should just gas all progressives.
I'm afraid you'll have to do your own:thinking: for that. Don't worry, it's not that hard - even for you.
Well that wasn't very nice, i don't want to be dumb like i am
 
Obvious delaying tactic, I'm not a law, but I cannot see this sticking in any way. Charging through a boarder like a bunch of Africans, throwing shit at guards and trying to force your way through because you are an economic migrant without the hope of getting asylum doesn't build a strong case for why they should treat you nicely.
 
In one of Tim Tool's videos he stated someone or a organized group told the migrants to come to America
and the migrates were being used.

Last night I found this video of the "National Lawyer Guild" or "yellow hats" in Tijuana during the caravan.
Yellow Hats are known to help Antifa/Bam and leftisits And attend their protest/riots.

So, in the video, you have few right wing jornos, Tijuana residents and Caravan's questioning the Yellow Hats motives. And its great

I don't think Yellow Hats are fully responsible for the caravan but they are partially responsible

 
how do i find which charities aren't scumbags?

Although newer and smaller charities might not qualify for a rating, Charity Navigator is a good site for looking up basic information on a charity and see how much of its revenues actually go towards charitable purposes as opposed to fundraising, telemarketing, and executive salaries.
 
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