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Spooky Bones said:
Yeah. It's a toy basically but I thought it would be a fun one and friendly to my wallet and I'm sure my neighbors would appreciate hearing 22 without the 3 on the end. Accuracy would suffer but probably not really on the level of what I'd be doing and it's not great for the barrel but not just doing a little from time to time from what I've read. It seemed like a good way to plink around with the same set up I'm running on my regular rifle but now idk. I'm probably going to try to get the company to send me a new bolt piece and see what happens.

Speaking of .22s I have a bit of an addiction of picking up cheap plinkers whenever I see them at a gun store. Just got the Armscor M20P for $140. It is obviously nothing fancy but I was actually very pleased with the irons on it. Has a threaded barrel for for can too but haven't tried that. Hitting steel spinners from pretty far out. Going to slap a scope on it though and see what it can do from 100+ yards. Only thing is it came with one 10rd mag, they make 15 and 20rnd ones though but any mags whatsoever for it are super hard to find and expensive. I suspect it can share mags with some similar guns (made in the Philippines) but having trouble finding info about that.

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You might try Marlin 795 mags, they look extremely similar.

e: of course, M795 mags are also extremely hard to find, but I'll bet there's .stls out there if you have a printer.
 
Champion The Wonder Horse said:
Amusingly, about 1 time out of 10 the hammer would ride the next round back down with enough force to set it off for an unexpected 2 round burst.
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Looking at how the thing operates I was actually thinking about this (suddenly deciding to be an open bolt?) but in the context of being scared 'because I got that one squib (after which I put the darn thing away) which I assume happened because the spring didn't properly close to catch all the gas or something like that...it did manage to chamber the next round so who the fuck knows. I think I'm gonna wind up giving them another go (I'm assuming they'll send me another one) but also kinda feeling put off by the whole thing.
 
Spooky Bones said:
Looking at how the thing operates I was actually thinking about this (suddenly deciding to be an open bolt?) but in the context of being scared 'because I got that one squib (after which I put the darn thing away) which I assume happened because the spring didn't properly close to catch all the gas or something like that...it did manage to chamber the next round so who the fuck knows. I think I'm gonna wind up giving them another go (I'm assuming they'll send me another one) but also kinda feeling put off by the whole thing.
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Yeah, I've probably put about 3000 rounds through mine (and it's second hand), once I realised it likes ammo from the hot end of the spectrum it's been fine. Feed it CCI standard and it won't run for shit, but it's like a sewing machine on minimags.
 
Champion The Wonder Horse said:
Yeah, I've probably put about 3000 rounds through mine (and it's second hand), once I realised it likes ammo from the hot end of the spectrum it's been fine. Feed it CCI standard and it won't run for shit, but it's like a sewing machine on minimags.
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I tried regular Armscor and Remington, Winchester Wildcats and it didn't run for shit, Aguila Super Extra and it squibbed, but also it ran fine for me on Minimags. You're probably right that quality is variable on the "bolts." I'm going to call their Customer Service line (I'm told they're good) tomorrow and see what happens.

Pics attached: Armscor M20P magazine (mine) and pic of Marlin 795 mag I found online (I don't have one) @Blasterisk they do look very similar but a few differences around the lip. I've got a buddy who has a shitload of guns and I'll see if he has a 795 to try. If the M20P mag looks like one anyone is familiar with please lmk
 

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Spooky Bones said:
I tried regular Armscor and Remington, Winchester Wildcats and it didn't run for shit, Aguila Super Extra and it squibbed, but also it ran fine for me on Minimags. You're probably right that quality is variable on the "bolts." I'm going to call their Customer Service line (I'm told they're good) tomorrow and see what happens.

Pics attached: Armscor M20P magazine (mine) and pic of Marlin 795 mag I found online (I don't have one) @Blasterisk they do look very similar but a few differences around the lip. I've got a buddy who has a shitload of guns and I'll see if he has a 795 to try. If the M20P mag looks like one anyone is familiar with please lmk
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The extra cutouts on the 795 mag are for internal levers and bobs on the inside of a 795, so I would find it odd if that's enough to make them not run well in your gun.
 
Blasterisk said:
A hunk of metal entering your body at 2200 miles per hour might be lethal? Where is it hitting, the toe?
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people regularly survive being shot in non-lethal areas. also high velocity ammunition tends to leave little holes that heal very well and usually aren't disabling unless they strike a bone or is a CNS hit. this is why slower, larger, fragmentary, or tumbling ammunition is preferred at closer ranges with the exception of armored targets.

Jesus Goldstein said:
.223 is a bear hunting round?
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no, but it can certainly be lethal to common black bears without much issue. shot placement is key.

Spooky Bones said:
Anyone else have experiences good or bad with these little devices?
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they are based on a combination of the Marvel .22 LR kits and the US Army Air Corps M261 conversion kit and are optimized for 40gr plated round nose at 1150 fps or higher ("high velocity"). if you stick with CCI Mini-Mag ammunition they should be fine. your experience with the Aguila Super Extra sounds like one round was a bit out of spec. remember, your rifle is designed for much more powerful ammunition and should not kaboom, however squibs have to be attended to. the unfortunate reality is .22LR can be unreliable ammunition, a lot of rimfire is like that. they are direct blowback and will not function correctly unless the ammunition has the correct recoil impulse and pressure.

remember, after shooting your schedule of .22LR for the day, to fire one standard 5.56 or .223 Remington to clear the gas tube of debris.

the CMMG kit is stainless steel and will need a generous amount of lubrication on the rails the bolt moves on. the chamber/submunition barrel should be kept largely lubricant-free but brushed clean every few hundred rounds.

other than the velocity and ballistic coefficient, the .223bullet of the .22LR is the close enough to the bore diameter of a 5.56 barrel that you should have equivalent performance out to around 30-40 yards.

Spooky Bones said:
I suspect it can share mags with some similar guns (made in the Philippines) but having trouble finding info about that
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they look similar to the Armscor M1600 magazines from years back, the upper portion of it, maybe a Marlin or Henry magazine might be compatible, but i'm unsure which.
 
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Spooky Bones said:
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Has anyone else fucked around with the CMMG Bravo drop-in 22lr conversion kit for the AR-15? It replaces your BCG but is a little more complicated than just being a BCG itself, it is a blowback operated system in itself with it's own chamber (which has the dimensions of a.223 round as you can see in the picture.) It relies on spring tension also so there's more going on than just the AR gas system. Anyway it's more complicated than that but is explained here.

Anyway people like them. I picked one up for $200 with a couple of mags from a local store. I didn't expect much, but had an extremely bad experience with it. It didn't like several varieties of .22 that I tried running through it, and malfunctioned in a curious way: it would fire a round, eject the cartridge, feed the next cartridge, fail to fire on the next round. I gather that this is an issue with the spring not resetting properly. I would have to rack the charging handle, ejecting a live round in the process, to fire the next round, repeat ad infinitum. I tried a couple of varieties of ammo with no success, then CCI Minimags which it seemed to like fine (cycling properly) so I tried some other high velocity stuff without success.

Then came near disaster. Using Aguila Super Extra, got an unexpectedly loud noise, a lot of smoke, a squib round with one chambered behind it. Decided that was a sign to stop fucking around with the thing. I know other people like them so maybe I got a lemon (my AR is fine) with a bad spring. I hadn't planned to do too much with it as it might wind up fouling my barrel in the long run so maybe I'll just say fuck it or maybe I'll call the company and complain. I dunno.

Anyone else have experiences good or bad with these little devices?
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I have one. Used it a bit in my 556 upper. Ran ok (1 in 20 or 30 ftf?), but I didnt like the change in ballistics/sighting going back and forth with 223/556. I just bought a 22lr barrel (which also had more appropriate twist) and you can just buy the collar to replace the 223 chamber adapter on the conversion bolt, and use it as the bolt/BCG on a dedicated 22lr upper. (And a 16in 22lr upper with no muzzle device is way short and light, and depending on your state, it cant be classified as an assault weapon)
 
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Meat Target said:
NGL, I have mixed feelings about constitutional carry. I support it in principle, but taking a concealed carry class redpilled me hard.

Even if you are obviously in the right to use lethal force to defend yourself, the prosecution will still be wanting your scalp. There's a fuckton of landmines you can step on if you don't know the legal landscape of your state and local jurisdictions.

The most sobering advice my CC instructor said was: "make a list of people you are willing to go to prison for".
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I'm a lawyer and I've taken like three concealed carry classes with friends that I've gotten into guns. They're all varying shades of bad legal advice, I wouldn't take their explanation of your states laws too seriously. In my jurisdiction you are frankly very unlikely to be charged if the shoot was even arguably legal, but that's just here. You really need to know if you have a duty to retreat in your state or not, and what is considered a sufficient force to shoot somebody over. The big reason nobody gets arrested here is there is no duty to retreat and the legal standard is reasonable fear of a forcible felony, which basically mean being attacked with any weapon.
 
waffle said:
I'm a lawyer and I've taken like three concealed carry classes with friends that I've gotten into guns. They're all varying shades of bad legal advice, I wouldn't take their explanation of your states laws too seriously. In my jurisdiction you are frankly very unlikely to be charged if the shoot was even arguably legal, but that's just here. You really need to know if you have a duty to retreat in your state or not, and what is considered a sufficient force to shoot somebody over. The big reason nobody gets arrested here is there is no duty to retreat and the legal standard is reasonable fear of a forcible felony, which basically mean being attacked with any weapon.
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Sounds like Florida.
 
Meat Target said:
(I know you're a shitposter, but I'll indulge you)

There's like only one in existence. IIRC it's not even a functional gun, just a toolroom prototype.
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If you're basing that off a recent Forgotten Weapons video, I think that was specifically for that "Mk III" that previously wasn't believed to even been conceptionally prototyped, until the one he was showing off was found. I believe there were fully functional prototypes of pervious iterations. Don't hold me to it though, just going off the top of my head.

More AWS-8Q Than You said:
I've shot one, they can be a lot of fun, but running slugs will make your shoulder hate you more than normal shotguns would.
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When/if I get mine, I plan on getting the Howitzer muzzle brake. It eliminates bird shot as a firing option, but I think it looks cool and I've heard it makes firing slugs more comfortable.
 
The only deagle I'd ever buy would be a 44 mag version. Though I've shot about 50 rounds of 50 ae and i actually enjoyed it despite its meme status.

The 50ae version seems like its market of individual is the same tier of people who run around with 5.7 pistols and larp with them.
 
wopirish said:
The only deagle I'd ever buy would be a 44 mag version. Though I've shot about 50 rounds of 50 ae and i actually enjoyed it despite its meme status.

The 50ae version seems like its market of individual is the same tier of people who run around with 5.7 pistols and larp with them.
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.50AE isn't a rimmed cartridge, though, and I've always wondered if that makes a difference. (in a positive way, I mean)
 
Well, I think I'm going to make a dream come true this year and get myself an Auto Mag 180. They're finally being made again and look like fine weapons. I've wanted an Auto Mag ever since I was a little kid, seeing them in quite a few great action flicks growing up. The new Auto Mags are faithful to the originals while also having a few improvements to make them stronger, more reliable, and overall just better. It will mostly just be a collector piece and safe queen for me, but I do plan to shoot it. I've always thought the Auto Mag 180 was one of the most beautiful handguns ever made. Plan on getting mine with 8.5" barrels (originals only had 6" barrels, but a pair of Auto Mags with custom 8.5" barrels were made for Clint Eastwood for the Dirty Harry film Sudden Impact), polished finish, and G10 grips.

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wopirish said:
The only deagle I'd ever buy would be a 44 mag version. Though I've shot about 50 rounds of 50 ae and i actually enjoyed it despite its meme status.

The 50ae version seems like its market of individual is the same tier of people who run around with 5.7 pistols and larp with them.
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The .44 Magnum would be nice I think, I hear the recoil is quite easy. For .50AE, it's got its appeal I think, as long as one understands that real life isn't Counter-Strike or Call Of Duty, a big Magnum cartridge is just fun on its own. Wouldn't mind a BFR in .50AE
 
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