Marvel's Spider Man: Miles Morales - Watch out here comes the shitstorm man

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What an odd complete makeover to make.

He looks like a fucking child just like Holland, which will be weird since he's out of college or just about to graduate in the game if I remember right.

Also the explanation for better face rigging has to be complete bullshit, right? How would that be any different between PS4 and PS5?

Edit: Actually, why the hell did this even need to be remastered? Was't the game ALREADY in 4K? Is Sony really just that fucking lacking in games or something that they're redoing a game that isn't even 2 fucking years old yet?
 
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It's weird but I'm not too worried unless there's a carnival face paint mask
 
ProblematicUser420 said:
Actually, why the hell did this even need to be remastered? Was't the game ALREADY in 4K?
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60FPS + Sony is showing worrying signs their PS3 era arrogance may be rearing its ugly head again after dominating this generation, especially with that jackass Jim Ryan in charge - seems like he may be Sony's version of Don Mattrick.

They've been doing a lot of retarded shit recently that's been pissing people off, and their messaging has been abysmal ("We believe in generations... psyche! Horizon 2 and Miles Morales are cross-gen")

And the face remodel thing is just fucking bizarre, still pretty baffled by it.
 
It's actually even worse then that, take a look at this blown up pictures and you can see significant downgrades in quality.

This is the PS4 version
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And this is the PS5 version:
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I could literally not give less of a fuck about Nigger Spider-Man. Give me Peter or Eddie or fuck off.

It wouldn't be nearly so bad if this guy was at least his own character, but he doesn't even have his own name. He's just fucking Spider-Man.
 
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This is similar to what Square Enix did with Tomb Raider Definitive Edition. This isn't exactly unheard of.

My #1 guess would be the face capture model data they initially used turned out to be garbage and needed to redo everything to be more in line with how Miles looks.

Just as long as they're not removing any Gingers and replacing them, I don't care. People complained that MJ looked off in the first game and if they redo her it's a sign that the original face models really were ass.

I'm real hesitant to pick this up because I want the definitive edition and they're already adding more DLC stuff with Miles. Gwen Stacy and the others are most definitely coming down the pipes and they could be easily added to this same game at a later date.
 
jellycar said:
I would die to play as Spider Gwen tbh
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As would most people, she's got the most merch right next to Peter and Eddie.

I'm hoping she gets her own game and they don't try to pile on everything into this one. Spiderman is Sony's Pokemon, it makes fuckloads of money outside the games themselves.
 
The Doom Slayer said:
60FPS + Sony is showing worrying signs their PS3 era arrogance may be rearing its ugly head again after dominating this generation, especially with that jackass Jim Ryan in charge - seems like he may be Sony's version of Don Mattrick.

They've been doing a lot of retarded shit recently that's been pissing people off, and their messaging has been abysmal ("We believe in generations... psyche! Horizon 2 and Miles Morales are cross-gen")

And the face remodel thing is just fucking bizarre, still pretty baffled by it.
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Console fanboys spent generations saying 60FPS was no big deal, and now watch as a remaster of a 2 year old game that basically just adds 60FPS sells like hotcakes. Shits sad.

Cross Generational shit is so fucking stupid and indicative of just how unnecessary the 6-7 year time limit on console generations is at this point. It was dumb last gen and if the only difference 500 dollars makes is 60 FPS vs 30 FPS it will be even dumber this generation.
 
Marissa Moira said:
My #1 guess would be the face capture model data they initially used turned out to be garbage and needed to redo everything to be more in line with how Miles looks.
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Another possibility is that the guy who modeled for the first game saw how successful it was, skyrocketed his price for the sequels and Sony and/or Insomniac went "Yeah... nah" and brought this other guy in.

I don't think the new one necessarily looks bad, just... generic. The old one looked distinct and had some personality to it. The new one looks like just some random guy, and already in this comparison you can see he lacks some of the subtleties he had before.

Marvel's Spider-Man Comparison: PS4 2018 vs. PS5 Remaster 2020
 
The Doom Slayer said:
Another possibility is that the guy who modeled for the first game saw how successful it was, skyrocketed his price for the sequels and Sony and/or Insomniac went "Yeah... nah" and brought this other guy in.

I don't think the new one necessarily looks bad, just... generic. The old one looked distinct and had some personality to it. The new one looks like just some random guy, and already in this comparison you can see he lacks some of the subtleties he had before.

Marvel's Spider-Man Comparison: PS4 2018 vs. PS5 Remaster 2020
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I think we need to see more of the redone characters to properly judge as a whole.

There's also the issue that many 3d models tend to be hard to critique by stills and there needs to be some motion to them in order to get a better grasp. They both kinda look generic and don't really have any unique defining traits that hero characters tend to have. In motion the biggest difference I'm noticing is the lighting. I'm pretty sure they're enabling the ray tracing they were promoting because even the image on the TV screen looks clearer. Also the water effects for when he's pouring the drink are different as well.
 
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Yeah, gotta second that thought. The RE3 remake's Nemesis looked ridiculous in promotional stills - the weird nose, the over long teeth, etc, but in motion it was horrific in the best way possible. That stuff which just didn't work in screenshots looked fantastic during gameplay.
 
The new guy looks fucking terrible, don't know what they were thinking. The original game did so well because we got a Peter that actually looks like he's in his 20s rather than some twink, and now we have discount Tom Holland.
 
Robert James said:
Who's ready for the two hour tutorial where miles explains how his father, a cop, quit the force and how the city is now being run without police.
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I never finished the ps4 game, but didn’t his dad fucking die in a bombing?
 
ProblematicUser420 said:
Why did it work for every other character? Or are we assuming there will be more face changes that just won't be announced?
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If they're in the new scenes with Miles they all have to be redone it seems.

He was brought back to mocap Peter's face for the additional content which was then it was discovered that things were fucked up.
 
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